I have been reading the sidebar and books and it seems that we know woman manipulate and we shut that shit down.

Does that make it okay for us to manipulate. It seems a lot of the techniques or things taught here are a form of manipulation. I feel like the whole world does it.

If you tell a kid they will get candy for being good. It's manipulation. If you withdrawal your attention from a woman because she won't give you sex; and it causes her to chase after you. That's manipulation. I'm personally fine with it and feel like everyone does it. So why not be good at it and get what you want.

But I read a couple guys on here say it's weak, lame, and not to do it. But I feel like everyone does. Thoughts?