I've been in the redpill for 7 years (the manosphere for 10, and still am). Which basically puts me starting the redpill journey at high school. Now I'm in college.
I've saw many posts, and comments of well intentioned people about criticism of the redpill, and each one even thought are correct and accurate, and have basis for reality. For example the guy that is natural that attracts women because he's having a blast and is calm, to the feminist that sees the cultural effects it has in general. Or the people that gave me alternative dating theories to my interaction with my date where I trauma dumped. And the many, many, comments that say not all people, women, men. Where the redpill
The issue is that what we focus on the validity of the redpill which is true, it's not logical, consistent, and it's arbitrary to it's role. But it's not wrong, irrational, unreasonable, or unwelcoming, and it does reference data sources.
What the redpill does is it gives people with no resources a place to vent and discuss their issues. At the time it used to be the MRA's, ex-feminists like Warren Farrell, and Erin Prizzy did try to help men and they ended up being marginalized due to them not focusing on women issues. Which I noticed in the comments. Every time a man talk about his issue with a women, the subreddit gives alternative points not focusing on the OP himself. Every time a woman gives her issues with a RP man, they tell her to run off without understanding the underline issues OP has. The focus is on the RP, and it's damages. Not the people that make them. People who want love, companionship. No realizing one thing : Love between men, and women is irrational.
And that what the redpill does try to fix, it gives men a place to speak in order to rationalize a phenomenon that can't be rationalized. It's what happens with the r/seduction, and pickup community. They give field reports, and share the case. But the difference between the seduction and pickup community is that the redpill don't go out and see reality. They collect data point and make theories to see which sticks in the collective. There's no moderation and agonizing peer reviews like in academics. It's just a bunch of redditors upvoting or downvoting a theory.
We are all versed with some of the theories, but if you go to www.forums.red, r/theredpill, r/RedPillWomen. They've created well above 5 new theories this last 3 days alone. Every day, they discuss a new phenomenon, if it has a conflict with what previously discussed they'll apply and make new theories to the exceptions. For "The exception proves the rule." This is why you can't argue against the redpill, because it's not built on consistency, it's built on mental gymnastics on a global hivemind scale that the redpill gives. In any other case for example how do we solve a crime when we all have is a car windshield, a pro car redditor could identify and give accurate leads. In the case of the redpill, we have an internet hivemind feeding it's idea. Men need to relieve their embarrassing trauma, women can't help, men don't care or relate, therapist don't empathize or aren't available, let's get together with other people in similar situations, agree and think of an idea.
The seduction community is different as they actually get men to go out and test the waters from the get go. But the issue comes that the PUA is under scrutiny for sexual harassment due to #metoo and girls becoming more defensive? Let's use the field reports available as it's risky to make new ones, and act only after being fully transitioning and taking copious amounts of redpill. Now we have basically brainwashed disassociated, delusional, men hitting on girls with no semblance of their previous humanity.
Imagine, if you're young kid in highschool, you go over all the materials, that are a miniscule in comparison to what is in the r/RedPillWomen. Heck, Rollo Tomassi has already published 5 books of the rational male. While that boy is getting brainwashed, again and again, because PUA don't work. Friends, and family advice don't work. And your emotions get number and number with an RP mental armor. By the time you finally get a girl, you've been in the subreddit for years yearning for companionship. And you just can't feel her feelings, emotions, or traumas once you get her. Everything is just blocked by a reinforced RP mental armor, and your mind trauma defense system from women who rejected you for being defensive after they were harassed by PUA, and other RP of the like.
Both men and women suffer, women suffer from men dissolved from soul and personality that act as part of the hivemind. And men suffer from fearful, defensive, and sometimes aggressive women. Each one, ends up alone and damaged. Neither of whom have anything to do with RP necessarily.
Feminists have their own issues, the rampant hysteria of "rape culture", #metoo, and domestic abuse. Even though they should be addressed, they shouldn't be the mentality of women beyond human basic cautionary from harm. Stranger asking for directions shouldn't end up with "Get away from me!". In an ironic sense, reading those news, RP posts, and r/TwoXChromosomes of the like can end up traumatizing us just for the basis of shock. We just perpetuate social mistrust. The same when it was with race theories. Men just have their defensive mechanism expressed in joining a tribe or cult.
Men get traumatized and end up in the redpill / blackpill, women get traumatized and end up proving it. The only way to end this cycle is to understand that human companionship, love, sex, is irrational and should never be an ultimate goal, especially in general terms.
On a positive note, since RP was quarrantined in 2018, reddit became a ground to be able to erect subreddits such as this one to help those who were damaged. Since it's easier to make it without being bombarded by gish gallops as it used to be.
Anyway, I know way too much about the redpill. I don't know about feminist theory, and with my experience with one gendered focus ideology, I'm wary to fall for one again. Basically this seems like my final post here until I find the place welcoming someone that is still detoxing. I don't know if it's due to moderation policy, or the nature of reddit. But every time I bring a redpill theory that is bothering me, I get bombarded with feminist theory. I like a lot of the commenters that give acknowledgement, or psych articles, reading women perspectives. I just don't like to see new dogmatic political theories, I'm already dealing with too much of my own.
