How do I help my feminist cousin?

Salad-undressing · 2022-10-24T00:33:31+00:00

She is fifteen everyone. And this is the lies, propaganda, and straight up hate speech she’s been fed.

She’s just parroting what the priestess told her bullet point by bullet point, with 99% of it making sure she’ll never take any responsibility for anything in her life ever.

Men, through the magic of patriarchy make women have beauty standards. I’m sorry, we make women compete apparently. Nope. No personal responsibility there. I mean it’s not possible for her to say “no”? When women say no they get a ticker tape parade. When men say no they’re labeled an incel.

Feminism isn’t about hate and worships and wants to help men? Sure, as long as you glove lick feminists, agree all men are toxic, and give them all your money, vote how they tell you. Think how they tell you. And violently attack any man who disagrees with feminism.

Then sure. They’ll pretend not to hate you.

God damn the lies. And people worder why men’s rights are ignored. This is the hate group who lies about everything endlessly that controls education.

Is she just fucking with you? Because this sounds like total bullshit, except it also could be 100% true.

Sexism affects women, which is why they’re outperforming as quotas in every metric. Such sexism.

But she’s a child. She can’t be expected to vaguely understand reality.

Guys aren’t held accountable. Then she’ll have no problem standing up to feminists pushing for women to not even be charged with crimes. Unless they have too much melanin of course.

She can’t even spell accountability and responsibility.

Naturally women need to be incarcerated something like six times more than they are to even catch up to white men at this point, not that they care about black men of course.

countrymace · 2022-10-24T01:17:55+00:00

Just take it one idea a time. Never attack feminism. If she says “men cheat more,” show her statistics that show the opposite. If she says something more subjective, just lay out a reasonable and logical argument for other side. She’s young, so she’s still making up her mind. If it takes a while, she’s still have what you said in her mind. If you straight up attack feminism or use words like “men’s rights” and misandry, she won’t even hear you.

IceCorrect · 2022-10-24T08:08:44+00:00

Majority of feminist problems is projecting.

To answer her 2 first point. If this true why there are more male virgins than ever? Why numbers of single women never beed that high?

Just ask her question to explain. Remember that to change her mind you cant force her to do anything, just ask her about problems and let her answer them, if she is smart like you said she will relize it, if not she is not as smart as you think

ggleblanc2 · 2022-10-24T01:46:25+00:00

Some of her thoughts are valid observations of the typical high school girl culture. The symptoms are correct and happen but the prescriptions are faulty.

As u/Salad-undressing clearly stated, she's just parroting what she's been taught.

Does she take responsibility for the consequences of her actions? If so, she'll find out about the real world when she tries to navigate it as an adult.

NutsLikeMelons · 2022-10-24T03:02:00+00:00

Where’s her father? This is his problem, not yours. Let me guess...

iainmf · 2022-10-24T03:39:21+00:00

An important thing is to talk with her about is female power. Don't let her get into a victimhood mindset. Call her out when she starts talking about how women are disempowered. Tell her she has a lot of power and influence and thinking about women as victims robs her of that power.

Also, I think it is important to focus on how to find out what is correct/true rather than arguing over the facts. Specifically, how does she know what it is like for men? That's the big flaw in feminist theory, it has developed it's understanding about gender relations by only listening to women.

I'd encourage you to talk about your own personal experiences and where you think it lines up with what she said and where it doesn't.

dw87190 · 2022-10-24T02:05:24+00:00

Standards for guys are super high, if she has reasonable standards, she's an outlier
Projection 1: girls value appearance more. For example, women idolise the Kardashians, not so much men
Projection 2: Ugly girls cop more shit from other girls than they do from men
Projection 3: It's the exact opposite
Projection 4: Again, the exact opposite
Projection 5: Girls express their emotions more violently than men, men are just seen as more violent because of feminist lies and female perpetrated violence is normalised
Correct, women are treated like gold for existing. Men are treated as disposable, like we're just another tampon in a woman's packet of tampons: Use, discard
Correct: Misandry is so engrained in society that men endure it from at least one woman every single day
Projection 6: Girls are always taught not to conform, where as majority of my female teachers held boys and boys to the rules
Not quite: Girls are taught to feel stigmatised, boys are stigmatised and gaslit by being told we're privileged and in the case of a certain high school (looking at you Melbourne, Australia), forced to apologise for being male
Projection 7: Self explanatory
Projection 8 and absolutely comedic that she thinks women know men better than we know ourselves
Projection 9, women are the entitled, get away with more and women are the reason men don't open up. We learn (usually from our mothers) pretty early in life that male emotions are a woman's weapon against us
Projection 10: Women are encouraged into hypergamy at every turn, men are pressured and shamed into settling beginning in childhood
Strawman (Strawwoman?): the number of nations where misogyny is systemic in society is outweighed at least tenfold by the number of nations where misandry is systemic
Female incels, yes. Male incels, not inherently. Counting this as projection 11, because majority of male incels are product of feminist misandry. Feminist = Frankenstein, male incel = Frankenstein's monster. The feminist has no right to complain
Feminism is to blame for that, in their perversion of biology for their hate propaganda
Feminists are not egalitarians, the two are mutually exclusive, no exceptions
Projection 12: Men are the majority of those on the receiving end of sexism
Projection 13: Women cheat way more. Cops, private investigators, prosecutors and lawyers have always known this
Projection 14: self explanatory
Uh yeah, we the egalitarians are trying but the feminists are in the way

Atom bomb. Dropped

UnfurtletDawn · 2022-10-24T03:12:14+00:00

All you need to her is just try to look up into the issues a bit more.

Blank statement without evidence is useless. And anecdotal evidence does not apply.

"Guys get away with anything"

Data to support it?

Etc... Basically ya know, critical thinking skills.

_BlueShark87 · 2022-10-24T12:11:34+00:00

Yes because my male privilege I ordered on Amazon made you obsessed with your appearance. Oh yes girls don’t value appearance at ALL. Everyone does but guys go to the gym instead of putting on cosmetics.

Title	How do I help my feminist cousin?
Author	sourneck
Upvotes	7
Comments	11
Date	October 23, 2022 10:02 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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