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TIME makes sexual assaults accusers persons of the years.

blademan9999

December 6, 2017
10 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://time.com/time-person-of-the-year-2017-silence-breakers/
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Title TIME makes sexual assaults accusers persons of the years.
Author

blademan9999

Upvotes 10
Comments 21
Date December 6, 2017 2:01 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/7hy72j/time_makes_sexual_assaults_accusers_persons_of/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/time-makes-sexual-assaults-accusers-persons-of-the.1173779
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[–]trapper2530 23 points24 points25 points 8 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

This is a men's rights issue why? Coming forward against sexual assault is bad now? They have men in there too. So it's not some "it doesn't happen to men thing" or doesn't say "women accusers". This sub loves Terry Crews and he is listed here.

[–]DolphinsAreOk 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My thoughts exactly

[–]BlockNotDo 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

This is a men's rights issue why?

Two reasons:

  1. Because not every accusation leveled against a man accurately portrays the events that occurred, and

  2. (More importantly in my mind) Many of the accusations that have been leveled, even if 100% true, need to be solved by women getting the fuck over it, not by demonizing men for pursuing relationships with women.

[–]trapper2530 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link

This isn't just women. Terry Crews is in there. I guess he should get over it too? And you're saying some gets raped and should go aww shucks well that sucks. Let's just move on and not contact the police over it? This is empowering to men who have been assaulted just as much as women. Especially seeing a big Man's man in Terry Crews coming out and saying what happened.

[+]BlockNotDo -27 points-26 points-25 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

My understanding of Terry Crews allegation is that some powerful Hollywood dude grabbed Terry's junk, through his clothes, at a party one night. If that's what you're referring to, YES. That is a perfect example of something that people should "get over".

On the scale of "is it good or bad" that it happened, sure, I'll put it on the bad side. But so what? Some guy touches your pants and your pants are touching your underwear and your underwear is touching your dick. So what? Why does this matter? Why is it important to make sure people know that you're a victim?

Same thing goes for women who have their ass grabbed at a bar, or have someone proposition them in a hotel room, or have someone holler "hey baby" at them from a passing car. Is it better if those things don't happen? Yes. Does your life need to be altered one iota because those things happen? No.

Those are obvious lines. I agree there is a point where the line gets blurry and I might be on one side and reasonable people can be on the other.

If you pass out at a party and 4 guys you don't know have sex with your unconscious body? Yea, you're a victim and society should do everything they can to help you through that trauma and bring your attackers to justice. If you're having sex with your long term boyfriend and he finishes before realizing that you passed out 30 seconds ago? No. You're not a victim. You should have zero trauma over that and if you do you should seek counselling for something, but not for trauma. And we sure as hell don't need to prosecute your boyfriend for rape, or even suggest that he did anything immoral.

[–]trapper2530 25 points26 points27 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

You really have no idea what this is all about do you?

[+]BlockNotDo -18 points-17 points-16 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I'll admit I haven't sought out news and details. I know the big picture though. And part of the big picture is that a large number of people, primarily women, want to make sure that they can be part of the #MeToo movement. So they are racking their brains to find a situation from their past that they've long forgotten, but that they can now use to claim victim status.

[–]Imreallynotatoaster 17 points18 points19 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I hope you're a troll because it's upsetting to imagine that someone could be this dense

[–]BlockNotDo -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I've been on this earth for 50 years. If I wanted to tell my #MeToo story and label myself a victim, I could tell a dozen stories without even thinking about it. I start thinking about it, and I'm sure I could get into scores of stories. Since I'm in that situation, I assume that everyone else is in that situation too.

And I think it really detracts from people who are legitimately traumatized by actual sexual assault and rape, when people just want to be part of the club so they start equating themselves because somebody grabbed them at a party one night.

I'm not going to paint myself as a victim needing empathy and sympathy because some girl kissed me at a bar 30 years ago with out my consent. Because that'd be trying to equate my situation with someone like Elizabeth Smart who was kidnapped and repeatedly raped for months as a teenager. She's a victim. A real fucking victim with legitimate trauma and we should all be sympathetic to her suffering. I didn't suffer because I got kissed without consent, and no one else should either. If you suffer because of an unwanted kiss, that's a problem with you.

[–]YuenHsiaoTieng -5 points-4 points-3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It bothers me that most of this sub would rather see both men and women treated as victims to be coddled, rather than see both as capable adults able to deal with their own private interactions.

[+]Greg_W_Allan -6 points-5 points-4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's called a "bandwagon". Women are frequent fliers.

[–]Hacha-hacha 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not your place to decide how violated someone else feels. You don't get to do that, dummy.

[–]YuenHsiaoTieng 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Very well said.

[–]alexanderpas 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Have you ever worn a kilt?

[–]xydroh 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Really happy to see Terry crews in there, this is progress!

[–]Taxus_Calyx 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This is an obvious symptom of two things. We live in a victimhood economy, and women are the new economic giants.

[–]Mr-Zero-Fucks 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

We live in a victimhood economy

As politically incorrect as true

and women are the new economic giants.

Not necessarily, they just have better and more valid reasons to be victims, but anyone can cash on their tragedy.

You can't open a cage without expecting getting attacked immediately, and with very valid reasons. What I'm afraid of is the prey becoming the hunter, which is what's happening right now.

[–]Taxus_Calyx 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What?

[–]PublicConsciousness 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why don't they have some balls to put Terry on the fucking cover? Didn't think so.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's not an achievement to use female privilege. Men go through worse on a daily basis and don't have the privilege to express it, which makes it harder to live with. They kill themselves at enormously higher magnitudes because they suffer in genuine silence.

[–]Meooowo 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not their fault that society looks down upon men showing emotions. Mostly a gender role issue as a whole. Also "worse" is just your opinion really.

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