What’s the best way to approach your boss in order to get a troublesome but socially savy woman out of your team before she ruins you?

VasiliyZaitzev · 2017-11-04T16:21:40+00:00

I've covered this like a bajillion times on askTRP.

The first step in avoiding shit like this is building strong relationships across the company BEFORE this shit happens. Years ago I had a CA who fancied herself quite the hottie-patottie. Now, in fairness, she did have a good body, but was a totally "butterface" and had that slutty K-ROQ (club wear in the office, hair teased up to the moon) that I don't dig, anyway.

She had her last boss wrapped around her finger, and, although she was reporting to my boss also, she was working under my direction. She wasn't stupid, but she was a Lazy Ho'. I used to tell her that if she spent as much effort actually doing her work as she did trying to get out of it, she'd likely get promoted.

Anyway, the Hens in the office (middle-aged ladies) assumed that she would have me playing Steppin Fetchit, like she did her old boss, and, when that didn't happen, they were LOVING it. So later, when she made a move on me with management, all of the Hens dropped in around me like a phalanx. So really, you need to develop relationships (manager, HR, other women) in the office ahead of time, because now you are playing defense.

So,what type of relationship do you have with your manager? Because if he wants to keep her on because he likes her, fine, but that shouldn't be your problem.

Converesely, she really likes working with my manager, so why doesn’t he take her under his wing?

Whoa. Do you really want that bitch working with your manager, pouring poison in his ear every day about you? Think that one over. Better to transfer her to another team. I had an admin who was basically a different version of KROQ chick, above. She was awful and I was going to fire her, but instead, the CFO decided to play White Knight and took her on.

He fired her 3 weeks later.

So yeah, I'd try to isolate her from your shit more.

max_peenor · 2017-11-04T14:35:42+00:00

How can I approach my manager about this, considering he likes her?

Don't talk about her. Talk about the work. If you want me to ditch an underperformed, your best bet is to measure and present the relative performance of the TEAM. Don't pick on any one person; let me do that with the data.

Unless, of course, I'm trying to fuck the chick you don't like. Then there probably isn't anything you can do about it. Consider that possibility.

thcricketfan · 2017-11-04T18:14:47+00:00

My word of advice would be to document everything. If she says things like "“it’s important you don’t work too much so I don’t fall behind" and you have proof of that, it can be very handy. Keep all the documentation. I learnt this the hard way when my bitch-ass female manager (lets call her SK) started telling me things in one-on-one conversations that she would later deny. Your manager may have some other reasons for having her on the team. Meeting the diversity quota for your team, or for your group is sometime a goal that managers try to meet. Keep the documentation for her behavior and actions and do not color your responses to her by the fact that she is a female.

kieran9323 · 2017-11-04T19:50:52+00:00

exploit incompetent owner and

she’s 34 so she no longer wants to bust her ass and I should stop the way I act and find another company that pays me more for my work instead of being here bothering her...

but consider not leaving, maybe do one-man job with someone else, and use free time at work to study or something. She is the smart one here, not you, you're the chump and your manager doesn't care, he doesn't value getting shit done as much as you think, as of now, she is more likely to get promoted

TheOriginalWasBetter · 2017-11-04T19:19:54+00:00

I've learned that the only person who can make your boss change is his boss. Your boss should have expectations from his boss, and if performance metrics isn't one of them then he just won't care who isn't performing. And if your boss doesn't have a boss because he's the owner, then you're stuck.

I think talking about him to her is a bad idea, especially since he likes her. He isn't going to be thinking about her logically. Just talk about yourself and what your job role is. If he brings her up her complaints, tell him you've been doing the same job before and after she got here and that you haven't changed. If there's disagreements on how work is distributed then he can write down the company policies for everyone to read if they aren't already.

He needs to take care of the issue himself, or else trust that you'll handle it. Telling you to handle it but watching over your shoulder all the time and constantly stepping in to tell you to do this or not do that is going to drive you crazy. A good boss tells you what your project is, what the end goal looks like, and then leave you alone unless you come to him and let him know you have questions or require additional resources. If he's constantly hovering over you then you should find a new job because he doesn't trust you.

pete85d · 2017-11-05T13:14:43+00:00

You sound like a Whinin little bitch, Jesus. I've never had a problem with any female coworker, most have gone out of their way to help me just because they wanted to fuck me. I'm laughing at how ridiculous this post is. Just do your job maybe and you should be ok?

And lol at trying to be RP at a place you work at, you don't even own your company. SMH.

Title	What’s the best way to approach your boss in order to get a troublesome but socially savy woman out of your team before she ruins you?
Author	pete85d
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Date	November 4, 2017 2:03 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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