What should we do about white supremacists and incel shooters?

mgtowolf · 2019-03-19T03:15:27+00:00

It's a fuckin smear job really. And what are we supposed to be doing to "keep white supremacists and actual criminals off this site?"

Nowhere here will you find any kind of serious advice about shooting anyone, or committing violence outside of self defense.

Tailtappin · 2019-03-19T03:43:52+00:00

Why does everytime there is a mass shooting, why do they always point to MRA/RedPill/MGTOW for "teaching them to kill women."

Because "they" (whoever they are) get their information about us from people who hate us. It's like asking members of ISIS what they think is the problem with Iraqi Kurds and what should be done about them.

Are they just taking advantage of ignorant news reporter, or is there actually a subset of MRAs that actually promote this type of stuff?

Yes and it will only get easier for them to do because it's an easy go-to and it's been established.

Has there been any effort in keeping white supremacists and actual criminals off this site?

Why should we have to? Is this where they all supposedly congregate? I'm not seeing a lot of white supremacists around here but ...well...nope, can't see what's so attractive about the place to them anyway. Nobody here ever tells anybody to kick the crap out of anybody. We don't have to start a campaign to "teach" people not to hate if we don't have a problem with it in the first place.

I'll tell you where people should be focusing, in fact. Why don't they head over to r/twoxchromosomes to see who's really got nothing but hate in their heart? If they really meant it when they said they cared about white supremacy/misogyny then they'd be asking feminists and the SJW crowd to calm it down, stop calling for the deaths of white people and white men in particular.

iainmf · 2019-03-19T04:39:01+00:00

We need to care about men more.

People who feel valued, part of a wider community, and that society is giving them a fair deal are unlikely to want to throw that away.

XxANCHORxX · 2019-03-19T03:19:43+00:00

I have never once seen a post on here advocating violence towards anyone. Ever.

goodmod · 2019-03-19T08:21:09+00:00

We have a strict rule against encouraging or approving of violence.

If you see anyone doing this, please click on the 'report' link.

Lethn · 2019-03-19T08:45:04+00:00

It is defamation, don't fall for it.

SirYouAreIncorrect · 2019-03-19T07:27:11+00:00

Honestly what happened to the MRA community?

Nothing, we are the same as we always have been

Why does everytime there is a mass shooting, why do they always point to MRA/RedPill/MGTOW for "teaching them to kill women."

Blame Shifting. It you look into most mass shooters (at least in the US) come from Single Mothers or at the very least divorced homes where the father is absent. MRA's and other mens groups attempt to promote fathers being involved with their children if they have them where as Feminists are actively attempting to remove fathers from having any rights to raise their children at all

Are they just taking advantage of ignorant news reporter

No, the "reporters" are not reporters, they are Authoritarian left Activists that believe everything they are reporting

Traditional Journalism (i.e attempting to report facts with as little political spin as possible) is dead, what we have to day is activism disguised thinly as Journalism

or is there actually a subset of MRAs that actually promote this type of stuff?

Not sure what you are asking here.

Has there been any effort in keeping white supremacists and actual criminals off this site?

Site being reddit as a whole or just MensRights?

On that topic though generally I am free speech absolutist and oppose attempts to censor speech even speech that is abhorrent or immoral. I take a very US centric approach to speech.

Unless is a provable Defamation, or a "True Threat" (a US legal Standard) then it should be allows, and combated with opposing speech

Gaki-San · 2019-03-19T04:35:07+00:00

Nothing. We don't create them, encourage them, or even really see them around here.

We don't need to handle incels or white supremacists, we need to handle these lying fucks that want to smear men's rights with their acts.

user_miki · 2019-03-19T12:21:22+00:00

Another concern trolling who take the high moral ground with disingenuous questions.

We never advocate violence.We cannot control what other people say as we cannot control your concern trolling here.If I was mod here you would be banned.

example:

- Is it true MRA are women haters?what did you do to stop that atrocity?

BornAgain_Heathen · 2019-03-19T14:13:50+00:00

Whiteness and maleness is white supremacy and hate crime, or so I've heard. Every fucking day.

2019-03-19T14:32:08+00:00

The same thing we do about women leaving their babies starving to death in swings and assaulting men: throw them in prison.

Or you can do what the left does and glorify them so that you can use them to paint your enemy despite then never being part of said group in the first place.

People who are just making racist arguments should be debunked and called what they are. This goes for all the clowns attacking white people as well as they are legitimizing and encouraging racism by actively participating in it.

valenin · 2019-03-20T03:53:07+00:00

As many people here have pointed out, trying to paint the various branches of the ‘manosphere’ (as much as I hate that term, it’s a convenient one) as somehow responsible for crazies is just a flat out smear job.

That out of the way, what’s your game? I’m not playing the ‘this guy posts on X, so unperson him!’ game, but questions like this often indicate someone who’s coming in hoping to quote mine responses for the sake of said smear job so I had to check and see before replying. Your question’s wording insinuates that this place is a white supremacist and incel sub, neither of which are true, and also characterized shooters as incels.

But most of your recent comments are actually ON an incel sub. So you KNOW MRAs and incels don’t have the kind of overlap the MSM wants to imply. You KNOW that a lot of shooters (the most recent one in the news cycle especially) aren’t incels. You KNOW your question is leading and disingenuous.

So what are you really after?

tenchineuro · 2019-03-19T21:01:54+00:00

What should we do about white supremacists and incel shooters?

Nothing.

If you're not doing nothing, what are you doing?

And incel shooters? What's this about?

Title	What should we do about white supremacists and incel shooters?
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Date	March 19, 2019 3:12 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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