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Group says "different approach" needed to tackle conversations about controversial influencers

Kagedeah

March 20, 2023
25 upvotes
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-64742429
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Title Group says "different approach" needed to tackle conversations about controversial influencers
Author

Kagedeah

Upvotes 25
Comments 5
Date March 20, 2023 10:24 AM UTC
(3 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/11wexc7/group_says_different_approach_needed_to_tackle/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/group-says-different-approach-needed-to-tackle.1186980
https://theredarchive.com/post/1186980
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[–]phoenician_anarchist 22 points23 points24 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Founder Natasha Eeles says her team has noticed male teenagers struggling to name positive male mentors.

She said simply labelling Tate as "bad" was not helpful and could alienate young people.

Well that's more than I expected...

He is currently detained in Romania, alongside his brother Tristan, as part of an investigation into allegations of human trafficking and rape - which they both deny.

(Last I heard, some of the women who they allegedly trafficked and raped also deny it happened.)

Ms Eeles continued: "It's not necessarily Andrew Tate as a person that's attractive, it's the absence of any other positive male role models. In that absence he can step in and attract the attention.

"When you ask boys who their role models are, we either get fictional characters, or they don't have one."

Actually getting somewhere...

"We try and make connections with young people about very traditional ideas about masculinity being restrictive,"

There's the rub!
Traditional, restrictive, toxic, it's all the same damn thing. Do they really think that just because they use a different word that it changes anything?

[–]ElectronicBoss2845 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with you. Bro people are stupid and make negative connotations to words trying to harm masculinity and men. Every “bad” word; toxic, alpha, Tate, mAScuLinIty they all are used in negative ways to harm men or try to invalidate men, men’s rights and arguments. I don’t agree with the way men are targets.

[–]shit-zen-giggles 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wolf in sheep’s clothing

[–]phoenician_anarchist 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a shame that a lot of younger people seem to be unaware of these classic stories. There was one time I "debated" a feminist a while back where pretty much the entirety of my side was quoting fables and sayings, there's a reason that they are classics!

What a world we live in when children's bedtime stories can hold ground against academic rhetoric. 🤣🤣

[–]phoenician_anarchist 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

From their website

We are an educational platform delivering workshops, talks, digital sessions and online resources to teachers, parents and young people at school and university.

It's all the usual bollocks, but I would like to note one thing in particular.

Bear in mind, they are going into schools and seem to be targeting year 7-11 students (~12-16 years old).

Why is this education needed?
Do your pupils know that sharing intimate photos of someone without their consent is a form of gendered violence?

It's very tiny and subtle, and I don't think that I could adequately explain it at the moment (without writing a rambling novella), but this is the single most fucked up idea on that whole site. Their concern here is with the sharing of the photos without consent, but they don't seem to care much that the underage children are creating these photos in the first place...

And it's not just them, this is something being pushed by most of the woke crowd, the normalisation of certain things and the push towards a "morality" based solely on consent. This degeneracy needs to be met with push-back and hostility but, of course, if you do that then you get attacked, smeared, and lied about in the media.

This is why you should pay attention to what your kids are being taught in school, and who is teaching them. The situation is worse than you know, and any conversation gets dismissed with accusations of conspiracies and slippery slopes (even though there is plenty of evidence available).

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