Does instances like these not mean that women are more privileged than men due to men being more sexual in nature(which is again very much biological and not in their control)? Does this not show a gynocentric aspect of life? Yet they keep dissing men for being 'sexual'

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lmao shit ton of cash? You do know that most prostitutes charge between 50-100 bucks a pop right? By no means is that a "shit ton of cash." Prettier ones can charge 300 but they do not get clients as often. Even if you are a hooker who is charging 300 a pop, you would need to have sex 100 times a year just to make 30k before taxes. The hookers you hear about that charge 1k a lay, are usually porn stars with a huge following, and only get clients every once in a while.

A ton of women can chose to do sex work, but very few of them are making bank at it. Belle would not be able to sell any of her bathwater if she wasn't already instagram famous. Go to ebanned.com. Tons of women are trying to sell their panties for as low as 20 bucks each and most are not even getting bidders. It is obvious you have never met an actual sex worker. They make absolute shit. It is far easier to just get a regulard day job than it is to make a good living off sex work. If women were more valued than men in society, a shit ton less women would be choosing sex work. Women chose sex work when they feel they have no other options to make money. I assure you that Jill Prostitute making 20k a year would much rather be working in HR making 80k a year to sit at a desk all day...but due to circumstances in her life, she is unable to get hired.

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Agreed. Also do consider the massive wage gap in porn industry . A shit tonne of women earn a shit tonne of cash in porn . Now consider a man relative to that . There are much much much less male prostitutes out there than females. And they get much less too . If a women goes homeless she can atleast live and be a prostitute . If a man goes homeless he stays homeless and dies. He doesn't get paid for being born with a body. With women you have so many shelters which protect women and children. With men that is hardly the case Stop saying dumb shit. You might have it bad but men have it much worse. You're privilaged Also remember that this extends to many other things. Women get treated much nicely than men . Women don't have to do all the hard jobs in the world. Women getting promoted much easily by sucking off some guy . Women getting more help(I can cite research on this) than men in times of danger. You have it bad at times. But men have it much much much worse. Only crazy women like you don't know what is their privilage. You don't know what it's like to be a man. All you see is your victim image. All you see is How the world has done wrong to you without ever understanding men . That's why feminism gets rejected . It's entirely from a biased female perspective. It fails to understand men by any standards.

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Women don't have to do all the hard jobs in the world.

Thanks to SEXISM. But FEMINISM is FIGHTING for the right for women to do the HARD JOBS. The only reason women are even able to enlist in the army is because of FEMINISM. You should be fucking thanking feminism for trying to make life just as "hard" for woman as it is for men.

And there would not be a massive wage gap in the porn industry if male actors weren't so desperate to do porn for pennies. Just like prostutures woudl be able to demand more than 20 bucks a blowjob if women would stop accepting such low rates. It's simple supply and demand. I cannot believe you are jealous of fucking prostitutes. That's so fucking sad. I cannot even imagine how lazy and unambitious you must be to be jealous that a woman can get paid 20 bucks for a blowjob.

Wah wah women can go sleep with men who might beat them, kill them, and transfer stds on to them while only SOME men can do the same! WAHHHH.

I think it evens out considering that men are more likely to want to work with other men. Example. I went to a networking event a few years ago with a male friend. People who went up to talk to me were ONLY interested in dating me. People who went up to talk to him were ONLY interested in collaborating with him. yet you're jealous that women can prostitute themselves easier. I would MUCH rather not have prostitution as an option and actually be taken SERIOUSLY when I go to business related events looking to make business contacts.

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The only reason women are even able to enlist in the army is because of FEMINISM

Yeah you know that they get selected at a much lower bar and standard than their male counterparts right? The same is for firefighters. They are unable to perform jobs at the same standard as men and get selected for jobs where other men's lives are dependent on how they do their jobs.

Also feminism is very much also responsible for making women's life easier. Most of the work done by feminism has made them privilaged. The army example you talked about is very few in number. Stop bullshitting me

if male actors weren't so desperate to do porn for pennies

yeah please stop victim blaming men here. I could turn around and say that women wouldnt be so 'oppressed' if they werent such little bitches. Men are victims here and they are paid less. Stop blaming it on men again.

I cannot believe you are jealous of fucking prostitutes. I also stated a statement of how sexuality extends to many other places like how you can get promotion, more help , easy climbing corporate ladder by fucking your way through, getting more social support but again youre gonna talk about 20 bucks which i wasnt even talking about. Women in 'porn' get a lot more than that.

People who went up to talk to me were ONLY interested in dating me. People who went up to talk to him were ONLY interested in collaborating with him.

Pure lies and bullshit. A girl i know gets so many job offers just for being just a female on linkedin. Albeit alot are interested in dating her but by the effect of wanting to have a connection they also help her out. She got these offers in 2 days without even texting anyone. I worked crazy hard on my linkedin and i am far more accomplished than her. I got 0 proposals for job. No one texts you or replies to you When i was facing depression , no one used to text me or talk to me just because i am a male. The worst thing i had to do was to make a fake gay tinder account so that someone would talk to me even though i am straight. If i were a girl i would be stormed with texts and messages without even trying. Recently i faceswapped my friend and made him a tinder account. At his male profile he got 1 match in 3 months(he is not all that good looking) and he swapped EVERYDAY for 3 months and he swapped like everyone. Yet just one match. Then we faceswapped the same guy as a girl and he got 16 matches in 1 hour. You have no idea what its like to be a male. Even if men do want to date you they also help you out for the same reason. Like i said , women have no idea what its like to be a man and you never will. You live in a mental self victim bubble

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I will prop get downvoted but I kinda respect Belle tbh. To me she is smart and resourcefull. She knowns how to take advantage of simps. Listen, if a guy is so weird and creepy he is willing to spend money on buying a 17 yo's bathwater or whatever the fuck, let him. Honestly to me anyone who buys her stuff are pathetic, just simps or creepy simps.

If a guy wants to drink or bathe in a girls bathwater then it's prop better he is alone and simps for Belle then dating girls.

Tough yes they are extremly previliged. A avg 18 yo girl can in one day make the money I would have to work my ass off for several days. Any ok looking girl can go on onlyfans and get rich. They also take advantage of lonly desperate guys ( not taking about pedos, pervs or creeps here just guys that can't get laid or a gf due to things out of their control).

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I see what you’re saying there with the be sexual, but women have that too. I don’t know the biological reasons, but if you’re talking about sperm, woman have eggs, so like it goes both ways again, for the social reasons, I see both sexes just getting mind fucked by what’s put out on the internet, men are told on the internet to not be sexual but pushed by society to be sexual, women are pushed by the internet to be sexual but pushed by society to not be, there’s hiccups here and there, but it’s pretty equal there again. For the masturbation, again, societal training and media training for both sides, porn is very weird when you look into it, It’s just nasty to think about the big corporations or anyone who operates like them, like you can’t watch that stuff in good taste after listening to these women talk about being trafficked into it, like look at their faces actually, when I got older I realized they’re just not into it and it’s weird when you tie that with knowing they might be trafficked and it’s just a weird as fuck industry, and for your first statement on how they get attacked, I know I said that, it was generalized, but like, did you know in some of these countries, if a woman is walking outside, and a group of men think she’s being too sexual, they’ll rape her, and then her family tries to cover it up, I shouldn’t even say family, the father, to not tarnish his name. Re read that dude. That’s my world like right now, and I get to sit on my ass and do nothing because I’m somewhere safe where that doesn’t happen, that’s the sexual privilege we have here and it’s scary for them because when people get upset for them being sexual, they can just look at how other countries see it, in real time, and the fear comes over them. Again I’m generalizing, but think about that. That’s our world right now, and I don’t like it. I’m too worthless to do anything about it, but maybe if groups like this could focus on more important matters, think about, I really can’t picture me being wealthy, mentally and physically healthy, and then the courts saying yea you know what, I don’t think you should have rights here because you’re a dude, there’s outliers sure but we’re not talking about things here like it’s outlier problems, that’s why people are mad at groups like this. It just isn’t the majority so why preach like it is when there’s half the population getting messed up, and the other half is either droned into maintaining the current state of things, ignoring it, saying what about me, adding to it or actually helping. Take your pick. I’m sure there will be a snowball effect, I promise you there will be, like if I got all my bones broken, right, fix the important stuff first, take care of a finger last or something you know.

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No it will be just a long talk and too long to post Plus you didnt come off as an asshole. You actually laid down your points very precisely. Plus i personally wanted to know and understand the other side better. Anyways i will just type it in here.

I see what you’re saying there with the be sexual, but women have that too. I don’t know the biological reasons, but if you’re talking about sperm, woman have eggs, so like it goes both ways again, for the social reasons, I see both sexes just getting mind fucked by what’s put out on the internet, men are told on the internet to not be sexual but pushed by society to be sexual, women are pushed by the internet to be sexual but pushed by society to not be, there’s hiccups here and there, but it’s pretty equal there again. For the masturbation, again, societal training and media training for both sides, porn is very weird when you look into it, It’s just nasty to think about the big corporations or anyone who operates like them, like you can’t watch that stuff in good taste after listening to these women talk about being trafficked into it, like look at their faces actually, when I got older I realized they’re just not into it and it’s weird when you tie that with knowing they might be trafficked and it’s just a weird as fuck industry, and for your first statement on how they get attacked, I know I said that, it was generalized, but like, did you know in some of these countries, if a woman is walking outside, and a group of men think she’s being too sexual, they’ll rape her, and then her family tries to cover it up, I shouldn’t even say family, the father, to not tarnish his name.

This is all true. I don't disagree at all. But you're stating the 'factors' which has led women to not be able to be sexual. What is the consequence of all these factors? Women being less sexual than men. This 'factors' are horrible. Some by biology , some due to social factors by men and women. It sucks but this is what the consequence is.

My point was that in the original post the women were dissing men for being 'too sexual'. Look at that post. And my point was that what is wrong with being sexual? Plus this sexuality also leads you to certain privilages. Like the one experienced by belle delphine.

there’s outliers sure but we’re not talking about things here like it’s outlier problems, that’s why people are mad at groups like this.

Thats the issue right here. Men's issues being considered as outlier's and not as important as women(radical feminism)There's many many pains which are caused to men which are not taken into account. Men are more likely to die by violence(like wars, akthough men do it to each other but this still means women are privilaged to not be as likely be murdered, beaten up and receive all sorts of physical abuse as men), men are less likely to receive social support(they are characterized by their worth which comes from work and money, plus make an account of any social media and see how much more attention you get than men), men are often not allowed to express their emotional pain, the whole social support system focuses on women not men and what not. If a man gets depressed there's a very less likelihood that he will get help. The suicide rate is much higher in men than women(atleast in my country).

It is true that men do this to each other(so do women but largely men). They are fucking each other up. But this also means that they have put women on pedestials. Women are privilaged than men. Men treat each other like shit and treat women in much much better ways(relatively to men)

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I think we are on the same side of a different coin, I don’t think you’re a radical for this stuff and I understand how what I said about outliers can mean that, where that came from was a post of this map showing how custody is divided, and the map didn’t even look bad, it just showed that kids end up with mothers more than fathers, it wasn’t even by a huge margin either, but then I read things like 90% of women in places like India or Egypt are getting sexually assaulted or raped. I know it’s not real numbers but I go with them, silly logic I know, but when it’s data for stuff like these sexual crimes that go unreported often, I gotta believe some crazy numbers. I would put the deaths of men in wars, equal in terms of fucked up in how women are being treated sexually. Maybe focusing on these issues will cause snowball effects for everyone in a positive way. I guess these things are ok as long as people don’t go out of there way to discredit each other’s issues. I guess that’s what people mean when they say whataboutism. Just let them say their piece help how you can and be done with it. I think a lot of these groups need a re work to be taken seriously tbh, because it’s too much of a pissing contest sometimes and that’s where you lose me. I wanna know how to solve these problems, not just talk about who has it worse.

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I agree 100%. Rather than any extremist views we need a more neutral view for both sides.It's just very exhausting for me to have my pain denied. I i am doing my masters in psychology and we have about 4 boys in our class and about 120 women. They are radical feminists who hate men and have really made us feel like shit. We get to hear very horrible things. Some of them even say how they are glad there are less men in class and wish there weren't even us 4. Most of them have spent their entire lives in women colleges and schools so they are sort of docterined that way. We get blamed and told all the time that we are privilaged and are made to feel like shit by both teachers and students.

I do agree that we need neutral grounds but this is just a place i come to everyday as a form of catharsis. It's really hard to take in all of it everyday. I too want equality. However in real life people don't really wanna talk to you or see you too much of a pussy if you talk about your feelings. Males dont talk to males nicely. It's a battleground . Everyone talks to females much nicely than they would with any other man. So most of my days are spent just taking the pain and keeping it to myself. Its really demeaning everyday to endure what happens to us. No one believes us or really takes us seriously. We are males after all we are the 'dominant' ones how can we be on the victim's of these pure 'angels'. They are so sweet and innocent , we must have done something wrong.

Even if i do want to complain to any higher authorities , it is almost impossible to do so. The last time i did that , i was told to get my act together and behave. The girl just started crying and everyone kept glaring at me.

This sub gives me a form of catharsis as this is the only place where people understand what i am saying and don't deny my things like everyone else has done all my life. However, i am really glad you do understand what i am saying which is why i did type this out. I have not seen any women accept it and i want to thank you for that.

Edit:- Also believe it or not i am from India. I am in a developed city called delhi and this is where i have to face all of this. For the rural areas it really sucks for women. But when it comes to developed areas it's a different story.And most of the feminists are from these developed areas who are quite privilaged from rich households. All they do is slam poetry and bash men. It just doesnt come off nicely when such rich privilaged women bash all these men who had to struggle with life. Pardon my bad english i am not really able to articulate it in my words properly.

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Does instances like these not mean that women are more privileged than men due to men being more sexual in nature(which is again very much biological and not in their control)? Does this not show a gynocentric aspect of life? Yet they keep dissing men for being 'sexual'

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