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TwoX Logic: if you ask for sex several times and she finally agrees... That's rape!

johnboycutter

June 3, 2020
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/r/MensRights
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Title TwoX Logic: if you ask for sex several times and she finally agrees... That's rape!
Author

johnboycutter

Upvotes 14
Comments 27
Date June 3, 2020 11:38 PM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/gw5kzv/twox_logic_if_you_ask_for_sex_several_times_and/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/twox-logic-if-you-ask-for-sex-several-times-and.1197710
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Comments

[–]johnboycutter 23 points24 points25 points 6 years ago* (21 children) | Copy Link

If a friend asks me for money several times and I finally give them money, have I been robbed? Was a crime committed?

[–]Moronic-Simpleton 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

Though there is a fine line between asking for sex more than once and pressuring someone to have sex, which you should never do. I don’t think it’s rape, but just because it’s not rape doesn’t mean it’s not wrong.

[–]johnboycutter 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

No it's not a fine line. There is a huge difference. These TwoX women are crazy. Read the thread. Most stories are ridiculous.

[–]Moronic-Simpleton 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

So if you repeatedly keep asking someone for sex after they explicitly told you they didn’t want to, you’re not pressuring them?

[–]johnboycutter 13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

You get pressured in live all the time. If my boss asks me to not leave untill the job is done and I stay untill 3 a.m. he pressured me but he didn't imprison me or restrain me. I can tell him I won't do it. There was no crime committed. Try calling the cops and ask them to handcuff your boss because he asked (not even insisted)you to stay late.

If my girlfriend wants me to buy her a expensive necklace for her birthday and keeps bugging me I can't claim she stole my money when I finally buy it for her.

Women want to be taken seriously but at the same time they are saying it's too tough to say no a couple of times and tell their male friend, partner ect to fuck off.

[–]Egalitarianwhistle 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They tend to "freeze up" if there us any moral responsibility involved.

[–]Moronic-Simpleton 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I can see your point, but I still think a healthy sex life should be based on enthusiastic consent. Otherwise sex won’t be enjoyable for both of you, and it should. Sex should not be something you have to do for someone else. Pressuring your significant other to have sex shows that you don’t really care about them.

[–]johnboycutter 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Nobody is saying a guy asking over and over to have sex is great. It's annoying, possibly disrespectful.

But there is a huge difference between someone being a disrespectful annoying idiot and A FUCKING RAPIST that can get you up to 20 years in prison... for asking a question repeatedly. Like wtf. A mere accusations can ruin a man's life financially and socially. Meanwhile, how long will the women be affected over a guy annoying her with "let's do it babe, please! Come on"

[–]Moronic-Simpleton 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, I agree with that. I was just saying that even if it isn’t rape you still shouldn’t because it’s not good behavior. But I guess most people here agree.

[–]darkbluexanadu 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Its still their CHOICE to say no. Just because a woman doesnt have the where with all to hold her ground and relents doesnt mean she was raped. And it certainly doesnt mean that she gets to use the experience too join the "i was raped club". I mean seriously, arent women tired of being treated like helpless idiots who have no control over their bodies.

[–]Moronic-Simpleton 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I said I didn’t think it was rape. But it’s still a really shitty thing to do, and that applies to both genders. If your partner tells you they don’t want to have sex, then you shouldn’t try to ask them over and over so they finally do it just so you can stop asking or because they worry that you will be upset or leave them. It’s not healthy at all.

[–]darkbluexanadu 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh i know you didnt. Apologies if it sounded that way. Just saying it isnt rape. And attempting to put it in the same category is stupid. Its just an attempt to swell numbers and support by letting them be part of the "club". No it isnt healthy. You know what else? EVERY male i know that ive spoken to about this has had this happen to them.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Far less than throwing an emotional hissy fit when your husband/boyfriend/date says no to sex...

[–]Moronic-Simpleton 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yes, that’s still pressuring them. I never said it only worked for one gender.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Women would be rapists in almost every single sex encounter in a relationship...

[–]Moronic-Simpleton 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I didn’t say pressuring someone was rape. But I still think it’s wrong and women who do this are bad people and they should be called out for their behavior.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I didn’t say pressuring someone was rape. But I still think it’s wrong and women who do this are bad people and they should be called out for their behavior.

I've never met a woman who wasn't extremely emotional and upset when they get told no to sex...

[–]Moronic-Simpleton 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes hopefully we’re able to change that. No one owes anyone sex and yet it seems only guys are being told that message.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Name checks out.

[–]Shooter-Mcgavinn 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Damn. Nice username. Most of the time retards aren’t as self aware as you.

[–]Moronic-Simpleton 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Look dude all I’m saying is that if someone says no the healthiest and smartest thing to do is not to insist.

[–]reheateddiarrhea 13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not rape, but definitely shitty behavior. Coercing someone into sex is manipulative and wrong.

[–]short_dude5ft3in 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Coercion involves threat or force. By definition, asking repeatedly and gives in don’t fall in rape or coercion. This is a failure of our education system.

Better end a relationship when sex is withheld.

[–]Egalitarianwhistle 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is what happens when you let an ideology grow for fifty years with no mechanism for self-criticicsm

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't consent to the emotional rape perpetrated on me by her words. She should be arrested, prosecuted, and jailed.

[–]azazelcrowley 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So spamming people with requests they do something is a form of coercion?

Hmm. Does that mean feminism = slavery, because it forces men into performing tasks they've repeatedly said no to until they get tired and just give in?

[–]Ody_ssey 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In Title IX it is already treated as rape and in many MNCs it is treated as sexual harrassment. So even if it's not rape logically, this behaviour can put a guy in lot of trouble.

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