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Caitlyn Gray sentenced for lying about Kenan Basic

mtcapri

December 17, 2019
9 upvotes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/caitlyn-gray-sentenced-for-knowingly-making-a-false-statement-against-kenan-basic/news-story/4a4c9cae521751b9a5c58a05d2ad8b32
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Title Caitlyn Gray sentenced for lying about Kenan Basic
Author

mtcapri

Upvotes 9
Comments 4
Date December 17, 2019 11:02 PM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/ec3mr2/caitlyn_gray_sentenced_for_lying_about_kenan_basic/
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Comments

[–]mtcapri[S] 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'd like to know what people think should be done in cases like these. For my own part, I think this woman needs to be shown no leniency, and it looks like the courts are gearing up to do just that. A few points then:

  • Her lawyers are making a big deal about her suffering from a mental illness. I treat mental illness. Based on what's said in the article and her behavior, I would guess that this woman is suffering from depression, but also exhibiting some cluster B personality traits (tendency to over-react to negative stimuli, intense emotionality, manipulativeness, etc). These are not reasons to go easy on perpetrators IMO.

  • The guy thankfully only spent a week in jail. However, it was enough to destroy his family life. His wife served him divorce papers, and the question should be asked: why was his wife so quick to bail on him? There may be other factors involved here that we don't know about, but it's not an uncommon thing to hear about wives and families disavowing men accused of sex crimes, even when they're innocent. Makes me wonder if the real culprit here is societal prejudice.

  • Also, it should be noted that, if there hadn't been CCTV footage clearing Mr. Basic by contradicting his accuser's narrative, he would not have been released in such a timely fashion. While I understand concerns about allowing a potential rapist to go free on bail, it seems to me that accuseds should only be denied bail when there is already solid evidence to believe that the accusations are true. Imprisoning accuseds on an accusation alone, no matter the severity of the crime, seems part of the problem here. Just within the week this guy was locked up, his life was destroyed. It seems to me our justice systems need to be more cognizant of the damage jail and public accusation can do to exert extra-legal punishment upon a person accused of a heinous crime like rape, and should take measures to protect accuseds from this harm. False accusers bank on this sort of thing (often outside of the legal system entirely) by calling their targets' jobs, spreading rumors among their communities, and relying on the outrage of others to punish their targets, while leaving their own hands "clean."

  • We need to start coming down hard on false accusations like this, as the damage they do is great, even when there is a relatively speedy resolution. I don't think it's overreacting to say that those who can be shown to have knowingly falsely accused a person of rape should be given a minimum of six months in prison. Leniency to these horrible people just makes the cost-benefit analysis favorable to them.

[–]Oncefa2left-wing male advocate 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

We need to start coming down hard on false accusations like this, as the damage they do is great, even when there is a relatively speedy resolution. I don't think it's overreacting to say that those who can be shown to have knowingly falsely accused a person of rape should be given a minimum of six months in prison. Leniency to these horrible people just makes the cost-benefit analysis favorable to them.

This should also be done to help legitimize real cases of sexual assault.

Sexual assault is a very serious crime and all people like this do is muddy the water because people start wondering if actual rape victims are lying. She's taking advantage of the pain and suffering of real victims for her own personal gain.

[–]mtcapri[S] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is partly why I can't stand arguments for leniency for false accusers on the grounds that punishing them might dissuade real victims from coming forward. If there is any group of people that is angered by false accusations as much as victims of them, it is victims of sexual assault. Furthermore, every time a case of proven false accusations crop up in the news, the majority of comments I see on it advocate for harsh punishment. Those who shy away from punishing these liars out of concern for real victims are just hand-wringing cowards, out of touch with reality and without compassion for the falsely accused. They're basically saying, "we shouldn't give these victims the justice we know they deserve, because it might, possibly discourage some proportion, no matter how tiny, of this other group of victims from seeking it." It's an utterly asinine and callous position to take.

[–]gadhalund1 point 1 year ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Late to the party, but she shouldve gotten 5 years for being a lying piece of shit

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