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Straight Black Men Are the White People of Black People

MrMirror1221

October 14, 2019
10 upvotes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.com/straight-black-men-are-the-white-people-of-black-people-1814157214
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Title Straight Black Men Are the White People of Black People
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MrMirror1221

Upvotes 10
Comments 14
Date October 14, 2019 5:09 AM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/dhlxkh/straight_black_men_are_the_white_people_of_black/
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Comments

[–]ElderApe 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is what happens when you accept the social justice hierarchy. Everything has to be fit into these neat little boxes of intersecting oppression and privilege. It's such an obvious political narrative, not designed to explain the world around us but to form an alliance of minority groups. For example imagine thinking that BLM being focused on men was a sign of male privilege but being focused on black people was a reaction to discrimination. When you look at the data both men and black people are much more likely to be killed by police and also much more likely to commit crime. You gotta pick one if you want to be consistent. But consistency is difficult when you are trying to appease multiple demographics around many different issues.

[–]Blauwpetje 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

'Not designed to explain the world around us but to form an alliance of minority groups'. Never seen intersectionalism formulated in a more accurate way. The tragic part is: this alliance can have its good points - f ex lessening sexism and homophobia in otherwise rather conservative ethnic groups, and on the other hand make women's and gay's groups less middle class. But politics based on a lousy theory will sooner or later always become lousy - and harmful! - politics.

[–]ElderApe 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The issue is that the politics is being placed before principle. Tolerance in and of itself is not a value, there are plenty of things we know we should not tolerate. But it becomes centered around the group, instead of what actions we feel are most productive for society. This is why it is inconsistent, it places tolerance before values. It's values are dictated by their results and who they effect or else those values themselves are racist, sexist, homophobic etc.

This is in contrast to the non SJW liberal approach, which is to decide your values first and then asses people in relation to those values. Of course under this system some groups will adhere to your values more than others. I think that notion is uncomfortable for many. But to me the idea of not having values is much more uncomfortable.

[–]Haloisi 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok, this guy has the strangest case of male-guilt ever. According to him black men are more privileged than black women.

Why you may ask? Well, because people are getting outraged about all the black men who get killed by the police (I looked this one up, nobody is as likely to be shot by the police as black men, they get shot about thrice as likely as white men, and about 30 times as likely as black women). And a whole lot other different things people get deservingly outraged about. But why does none of this count?

Because of the black women, black women don't get enough attention for their problems, and black men are committing domestic violence against them.

Now I am not a social scientist, but in general crime decreases is income inequality and the number of poor people goes down. So maybe, instead of shitting on black men, one would try to give them actual equal opportunities and a way out of their shitty situation might solve the problem. But not according to this dude I guess, we need more programs for black women, because they have it worse.

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Really, I had to check if this was not published in the Onion, which is even the same publisher. They might want to move it to a different issue. I still feel like I ate the Onion.

[–]King-Achelexus 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

verysmartbrothas.theroot.com

Ngl, getting some "model minority" vibes just from the name of the site.

[–]Istalriblaka 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Does Sh0eonhead have a reddit? How can I send this to her?

[–]Aaod 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Orrrr maybe it is just a bad system because of the blatantly obvious double standards? Why is it so hard for people to accept stuff like this is just wrong and needs to be tossed aside.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

...and by inference I assume that you're trying to say that "white people" are inherently negative here in some way. I've no idea why this bilge is allowed here.

[–]willyj19 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I knew I felt something white about me.

[–]thelookoutbelow 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This article deserves to have it's anniversary celebrated every year

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The reason the right ever wins politically is because of the tendency of the left to split and split and split. This is just another example of the Judean people's front, splitters!

[–]ElderApe 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is such a brilliant python skit. One of the best descriptions of a common left wing political issue.

[–]Istalriblaka -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'd say it's because the emotions Democratic politicians play on are more complex - rather than simply putting one's own self first like Republicans, they need to quantify the great pissing contest of who suffers more. Some people believe it's this group, some people believe it's that group. Throw in variances on how they suffer, and you have a fractured mess that varies from "democratic socialism but you can have your guns" to "I'm defining my campaign and tainting my party's entire platform with 'I'm taking your guns.'"

Of course, the real issue here is the two party system. No duopoly can properly represent any nonhomogenous group of people, so what you're really seeing is a bunch of parties that should exist but don't being grouped into one monolithic "well it's better than the alternative."

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah but the same issues affect leftwing political parties all over the world and throughout the last hundred years. And that includes systems that are not duopolies. Thats what makes the Monty Python sketch funny - because we recognise that these seemingly modern political problems are probably eternal.

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