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Woman sentenced to over 27 years for leaving newborn to die near Mississippi

spiritoffff

April 30, 2023
823 upvotes
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https://slatereport.com/news/woman-sentenced-to-over-27-years-for-leaving-newborn-to-die-near-mississippi/
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Title Woman sentenced to over 27 years for leaving newborn to die near Mississippi
Author

spiritoffff

Upvotes 823
Comments 44
Date April 30, 2023 6:49 PM UTC
(3 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/PussyPassDenied
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/comments/133zrgk/woman_sentenced_to_over_27_years_for_leaving/
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Comments

[–]01ARayOfSunlight 95 points96 points97 points 3 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Fuck. That's awful.

Why did it take 20 years for her to be charged?

[–]LordGraygem 79 points80 points81 points 3 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Detectives identified Matter as the child’s mother and arrested her in May of 2022, when she was tied to DNA from the two infants through a geneaology search that led to potential relatives in Goodhue County.

Probably someone in her close family, maybe one of her other (living) kids, put their DNA into one of those databases that tries to find relatives from other people who've added their own, and the cops got a hit on their end as a result?

[–]christoffer5700 35 points36 points37 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Kinda scary that these companies just hand over DNA to law enforcement

[–]UrethraFrankIin 27 points28 points29 points 3 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Hey, they own your genome as part of the agreement. It's in the fine print. When I found out my aunt was planning to do one of those genealogy/ancestry tests, I explained that fact and she went "oh God fuck that" lol. Eventually, insurance companies will use all that to determine your rates - using the closest relatives and finding every possible risk factor. I'm sure they've already begun compiling that information, unless there are laws against it. I'm not sure. Those DNA testing companies will certainly make as much from you as possible.

To be clear, this big brother shit has led to great arrests, like the Golden State Killer

Joseph James DeAngelo Jr. (born November 8, 1945) is an American serial killer, sex offender, burglar, and former police officer who committed at least 13 murders, 51 rapes, and 120 burglaries across California between 1974 and 1986.

On April 24, 2018, the State of California charged 72 year-old DeAngelo with eight counts of first-degree murder, based upon DNA evidence;[12][13][14] investigators had identified members of DeAngelo's family through forensic genetic genealogy.

That said, corporations, law enforcement, and other government agencies will exploit this for bad reasons as well. We all know what happens when you give law enforcement an inch - it takes a mile, sometimes at gun point. Helping aspiring fascists in government, law enforcement, and intelligence agencies slowly turn the US into a true police state is to be avoided at all possible costs. The Patriot Act alone is bad enough.

[–]psykloan 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Neither Ancestry or 23andMe "hand over" DNA to law enforcement. What law enforcement actually does is take the case's DNA and upload it to a genealogical database like GEDmatch and FamilyTreeDNA where users voluntarily opt-in to be family matched with those cases. The Golden State Killer was caught through GEDmatch.

[–]notchbak1 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Look into who owns 23and me. Surprise yourself

[–]psykloan 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't matter who owns it. All I did is detail how law enforcement cases are currently being solved thanks to genetic genealogy. They don't use Ancestry or 23andMe

[–]MadManMorbo 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m gonna guess the Mormon church?

[–]Xmeromotu 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My understanding is that the database that was used to catch the Golden State Killer are public and available to law enforcement as well as to the general public. If you don’t want to find relatives, don’t put your DNA into the database.

That’s like wanting to buy from Amazon but not wanting to give them your address.

[–]LordGraygem 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Let me be clear, that's just my guess as to what happened. Whether or not companies do that varies by company, with some requiring a court order first.

I can understand both sides of the argument, though, which makes it really hard to come down one way or the other on the matter.

[–]psykloan 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They don't. Neither Ancestry or 23andMe "hand over" DNA to law enforcement. What law enforcement actually does is take the case's DNA and upload it to a genealogical database like GEDmatch and FamilyTreeDNA where users voluntarily opt-in to be family matched with those cases.

[–]MortimerWaffles 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love this DNA stuff. So many women getting away with things for years or decades sweating in the slippers that they will be caught. Same thing with rapists. lol

[–]psykloan 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Neither Ancestry or 23andMe "hand over" DNA to law enforcement. What law enforcement actually does is take the case's DNA and upload it to a genealogical database like GEDmatch and FamilyTreeDNA where users voluntarily opt-in to be family matched with those cases.

[–]LordGraygem 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Did you really have to post the same comment three times over?

[–]psykloan 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, to prevent misinformation. I do not want anyone to be dissuaded from using one of these tests due to this reason without knowing how it works.

[–]LordGraygem 29 points30 points31 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Court records from the time the children were abandoned show Matter was a recently divorced mother of two, was drinking heavily and was in and out of jail.

I'm willing to bet that her defense tried to play that as a reason why she shouldn't be charged--either to the fullest extent or even at all--for this; she was troubled, it was a rash decision, she didn't mean it, blah, blah, blah. But I'm also willing to bet that the fact that she did it twice, with the first happening 4 years prior at the same place, convinced the court that this defense was full of shit. Plus, I'm reasonably sure every state in the country has something along the lines of a law that allows you to drop a newborn off at a designated safe place (hospital, fire station, police station) and walk away.

No, my cynical guess for the reasoning in her mind was that this was the kid of either the recent ex or some equally recent fuck who didn't want her, and leaving the kid to die like that was (in her mind) fully deserved punishment towards the guy who put it there.

[–]ElectroFlannelGore 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, my cynical guess for the reasoning in her mind was that this was the kid of either the recent ex or some equally recent fuck who didn't want her, and leaving the kid to die like that was (in her mind) fully deserved punishment towards the guy who put it there.

This. 1000%.

[–]onlyidiotsgoonreddit 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She has to make sure the father couldn't raise the child!

[–]shnukms 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

God damn, cut your tubes

[–]Nickblove 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All the crimes that people committed back in the day are starting to get solved with the advancement and availability of DNA testing. This is good for crime solving bad for people who thought they would get away with it. She deserves to rot.

[–]Cosplayfan007 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you do the crime, you should face the same harm you inflict upon others in this case. Instead of throwing her in jail, they should throw her in the river…the center of the river. Now we have to pay for her to have better living conditions than people outside of jail. How the hell does any of this make sense?

[–]dw87190 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's America, she'll get her sentence transferred to a mental health ward within three years and be let out within five years. Feminists world wide will blame men and the mythical patriarchy for it

[–]LordGraygem 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah yes, those mad lads of the Patriarchy. Standing hand-in-hand with White Supremacy and the Jews to run the world and keep the undeserving down since the first human figured out that it was more than just another upright ape. Of course, none of their respective Great Works would be possible without the devoted mentorship of the lizard overlords and the sponsorship of Raid: Shadow Legends!

[–]D-o-n-t_a-s-k 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What does near Mississippi mean?

[–]Highenergyperson 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Near the Mississippi River. The crime occurred in Minnesota. The Mississippi River starts there.

[–]HostileCornball -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

This is what will happen more frequently in the next decade because some fuckers made abortion illegal in Mississippi.

[–]HardToPeeMidasTouch 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Abortion laws don't suddenly make more women sickos who kill newborns. It will certainly increase drop offs perhaps at hospitals or police stations.

If it does increase, by a percentage that I'm going to guess will be less than 0.0001%, those women were already deranged and a threat to those around them.

[+]HostileCornball -6 points-5 points-4 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Yea ok. It's human psychology mate. If a woman can't stop the birth of her child that she hates at that moment , without having full body autonomy, it's more likely the babies will end up like this than leaving them off at some hospital or police station. Not defending the crime but the laws that could prevent this arent existing anymore.

According to you it is like it's better to have a de-addiction centre than a ban on deadly drugs.

[–]LordGraygem 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

First off, you need to learn how to read. She's from Minnesota. And Methodist Beach, where she left that kid to die, is in Minnesota. It says all of this right there, in the article. But I guess you were in such a rush to jump on your soapbox and begin preaching that 5 minutes to fact check was 4 minutes and 30 seconds too many, right?

Second, she did this over 20 years ago. In other words, when none of the legislation that you're puling about was passed. Again, 5 minutes to read could have saved you looking like a dumbass.

Third, stop trying to turn a vile person's evil deeds into a fucking prop for your cause, it's disgusting and you should be ashamed yourself.

[–]HardToPeeMidasTouch 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

thunderous applause

[–]HardToPeeMidasTouch 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Uhhh is it too much of a leap to say that human psychology is the OPPOSITE of this. Every animal on earth including humans try to protect their newborn young with their life. This person was insane.

[–]john35093509 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

By that reasoning, this would have been a lot more common prior to Roe v Wade. It wasn't.

[–]vornskr3 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It ABSOLUTELY was more common prior to Roe v Wade and is far more common currently in countries around the world where safe access to birth control and abortions are banned

[–]john35093509 [score hidden] 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yet women are called the nurturing sex. SMH.

[–]vornskr3 [score hidden] 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why god you have some intense and weird issues with women. There’s something seriously wrong with that incel brain of yours.

[–]Fonsiloco 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My thoughts exactly

[–]Highenergyperson 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This happened in Minnesota. The headline is just shitty. They meant near the Mississippi River which starts in Minnesota. Minnesota won’t be banning abortion anytime soon so your comment is not relevant.

[–]john35093509 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Abortion was 100% legal when this woman killed these children. And she was in Minnesota, not Mississippi.

[–]Xmeromotu -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Thank God she didn’t have an abortion! 🙄

[–]john35093509 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Right. Abortion or murdering the infant after birth are the only possibilities for pregnant women who don't want a child.🤡

[–]Xmeromotu 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps I should have explained the concept of sarcasm, though I suppose it’s fair to assume there are zealots who would say that and be serious about it.

[–]john35093509 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Right. I assumed you were one of those zealots and I'm happy to hear that you're not. Fyi, sarcasm can be signaled with /s after a comment.

[–]Xmeromotu 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I will remember that — thanks!

[–]Maisie_Millaa 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is truly heartbreaking. It's difficult to imagine how someone could leave their own child to die in such a cruel way. While it's important to hold individuals accountable for their actions, it's also important to address the underlying issues that may have led to this tragedy. We need to provide more resources and support for individuals dealing with unintended pregnancies and struggling with mental health issues. Let's work towards preventing more innocent lives from being lost.

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