In case your wife/girlfriend is no longer be able to have sex with you, not because she doesn't love you, but for example because of an illness or an accident, what would you do? Would you leave her or cheat on her? Would you start using porn, if you did not look at it during your relationship? Do you think it is unreasonable if a woman doesn't want her man to cheat or use porn, even in such a scenario?
[–]Chemical_Major_1403 10 points11 points12 points (28 children) | Copy Link
Watch people arguing about thia cause men being horny = pervert, women loving men for money= normal
[–]Censoredpatriarchy[S] 5 points6 points7 points (27 children) | Copy Link
So exhausting
[–]Chemical_Major_1403 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
People can't criticise women now, it's the weakest generation of men
[–]NothingOrAllLife 3 points4 points5 points (25 children) | Copy Link
You’re fine for wanting a relationship that involves sex. But if your wife was a good partner to you and you leave her because she gets sick you’re being a douche.
Just like if your husband is a good partner and you leave because he stopped making the same amount of money, that person is also being a douche.
How often do you actually hear about women leaving the second their guy loses a job? In real life. Not on tv or the internet.
[–]Censoredpatriarchy[S] 6 points7 points8 points (23 children) | Copy Link
study:
[–]NothingOrAllLife 0 points1 point2 points (22 children) | Copy Link
Read the entire study. The abstract is simply an overview.
[–]Censoredpatriarchy[S] 4 points5 points6 points (21 children) | Copy Link
If you feel that the abstract is a misleading reflection of the study then take it up with its author, Harvard researcher Alexandra Killewald
[–]NothingOrAllLife -1 points0 points1 point (20 children) | Copy Link
Did you read the entire study though? The data presented is much more nuanced that what you’re showing it to be.
[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 6 points7 points8 points (8 children) | Copy Link
Show where the abstract is not actually true. Otherwise you're just spin doctoring.
[–]NothingOrAllLife -2 points-1 points0 points (7 children) | Copy Link
I didn’t say the abstract wasn’t true, I said the way OP is presenting the study to people is minimizing. OP didn’t read the study, or at least he didn’t say he did when I asked him.
I’d be happy to discuss the study in its entirety.
[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 5 points6 points7 points (6 children) | Copy Link
Look, you're being awfully evasive, just like everyone else who pulls what you pulled.
I'm going to make this dead simple. Show where the overview is wrong. Period. Otherwise you're just smokescreening.
[–]Censoredpatriarchy[S] 2 points3 points4 points (10 children) | Copy Link
Not my circus, not my monkeys 🤷♂️
[–]NothingOrAllLife 2 points3 points4 points (9 children) | Copy Link
Did you quote me just to edit what I actually typed?
[–]Censoredpatriarchy[S] 1 point2 points3 points (8 children) | Copy Link
Yeah the proverbial "fixed that for you"
[–]Lovers691BlackPill 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean it depends the OP didn’t mention if it was permanent or not, if the woman can’t do anything sexual or not, if she only couldn’t do vaginal sex but could do anal, oral and hand stuff, etc
[–]SmallPenisBigMouth 3 points4 points5 points [recovered] (16 children) | Copy Link
I know couples where the guy throws money at her and she cut off sex before the wedding. The no sex / free money scenario is very ideal for a lot of women. It's basically like free money without having to work.
The only real relationships are when women throw money and sex at you when you are NOT working. Which is the funniest bit. Find a criminal or gangster or other degenerate and he's more likely to have a better sex life than an office worker. Even children know this
[–]Censoredpatriarchy[S] 1 point2 points3 points (14 children) | Copy Link
Stupid worthless hookers stealing
[–]SmallPenisBigMouth 2 points3 points4 points [recovered] (11 children) | Copy Link
But men enable them. I knew instinctively at like 18 not to get married except if I was gonna still be able to live how I wanted. If you have sex for free you see how comical the marriage institution is. So I blame men. There's a reason why Christ hung out with hookers, honest attracts honest.
[–]Censoredpatriarchy[S] 0 points1 point2 points (7 children) | Copy Link
Lifelong marriage under patriarchy is optimal
[–]SmallPenisBigMouth 4 points5 points6 points [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
Not quite. There's no guarantee that you'll get regular sex as a man in a marriage with a woman even under the most traditional circumstances. Patriarchy existed to maybe ensure the average guy could get a wife, but it never ensured the average man would be attractive to his wife. That's the whole idea behind institutional marriage.... giving her a ring, getting down on one knee, having a theater show of your "union." It's prostitution, but a lot more expensive.
[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Based response.
[–]truthn00b 0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Spoken like someone locked in a miserable marriage they hate. Your words betray you 😁
[–]ErrprMachjne1 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Or he's observing an experience hundreds of thousands of men had lmao. 😁😁😁
[–]truthn00b 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
of course, anti-Christian anti-tradition viewpoints are the most promoted on a website full of godless atheist progressives
[–]ErrprMachjne1 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Or maybe the discussion isn't about personally attack them. How would you like it if you made a point and people acted that way? You enjoy that?
[–]truthn00b 0 points1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Christ "hung out with hookers" aka one prostitute because she was trying to redeem herself from her sins, not to promote sex work as a higher virtue than marriage. Please tell me more about your comical misunderstanding of the Christian theology and projection of your own sexual deviancy onto it. 😆
[–]SmallPenisBigMouth 0 points1 point2 points [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
John 7:24 (NIV): "Stop judging by mere appearances, but instead judge correctly."
1 Samuel 16:7 (NIV): "But the Lord said to Samuel, 'Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The Lord does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.'"
[–]Livingin2023 0 points1 point2 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Ah yes bible verses taken out of context
Wanna know how I know you're a protestant? 😁
[–]Deadzone-Music 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
If sex equates to "work" for anyone in a relationship, that is very unhealthy and you shouldn't be in a relationship in the first place
[–]SmallPenisBigMouth 0 points1 point2 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
You're talking about like 80% of the population though. What you're talking about is just normative ways of looking at relationships.
[–]Deadzone-Music -1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
What are you talking about?
[–]Censoredpatriarchy[S] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
study:
[–]inkwell05 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Man the more and more I read about how cutthroat people are, the more I feel hopeless when it comes to humanity. I just wanted my own loyal virgin waifu qt 3.14 who would love me unconditionally.
[–]Censoredpatriarchy[S] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Liberation: pursue your interests to the fullest legally permissible extent
When in Rome
[–]Early-Christmas-4742 -1 points0 points1 point (11 children) | Copy Link
Yes, that is the jist of "no fault divorce"
[–]Censoredpatriarchy[S] 3 points4 points5 points (10 children) | Copy Link
People make all kinds of "immoral even if it's legal" arguments e.g. muh husbands leaving their sick wives
[–]Early-Christmas-4742 0 points1 point2 points (9 children) | Copy Link
They also go both ways.
[–]Censoredpatriarchy[S] 4 points5 points6 points (8 children) | Copy Link
Yet the mainstream never criticizes the stupid worthless fucking spat on hookerbeggars
In fact mainstream doubles down on "muh lack of marriageable men"
Harder for men to be gainfully employed: women most affected
[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The hypocrisy of feminism, distilled.
[–]Early-Christmas-4742 0 points1 point2 points (6 children) | Copy Link
I was waiting for the catchphrase to come out!
Any examples?
[–]Censoredpatriarchy[S] 2 points3 points4 points (5 children) | Copy Link
You're so irritating is that why you're on reddit 24/7
Anyway
study:
[–]Early-Christmas-4742 0 points1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Why would being irritating make me go on reddit more often? You're on constantly, yet say the same thing repeatedly. Like, just repeating yourself on multiple subs, on multiple threads with nothing new to say.
You must be pretty irritating.
Also that's not an example of what you said. Idiot.
[–]Censoredpatriarchy[S] 1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
You literally post here every single day
It is because no one can tolerate you in irl because you're fucking annoying lmao
The study is an example
If you disagree, like other people who have had the misfortune to encounter you, I also could care less what you think
[–]Early-Christmas-4742 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
So do you. Difference is I do a few times a day. You're on here constantly. Look on my profile, look at yours. Idiot.
Lol you care what i think because I've given you the most human interaction you've had all week!
Edit: blocking me is probably the less embarrasing route for you. Better than last time when you went off on a giant rant then apologised!
[–]Censoredpatriarchy[S] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Maybe a few times a month (that's that effeminate solipsism of yours)
Anyway, like every other person who has ever had the misfortune of being forced to interact with you, I'm blocking so I don't have to be further irritated
Good luck bribing enough people to have nonzero attendance at your funeral
[–]HighlyFlashy -2 points-1 points0 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Do what you want
[–]Censoredpatriarchy[S] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Just casting my vote in the atheist morality circus
[–]Summeronmymountain -5 points-4 points-3 points (44 children) | Copy Link
Both sexes should be working. The only time the wife shouldn't be expected to is when the kids are little and not in school yet or if the couple homeschools. But the husband has to always work. That's his role. As for the sex, that's a two-way street. It's normal to have dry spells in marriage and it's not going to fall off if you don't use it!
[–]Censoredpatriarchy[S] 5 points6 points7 points (41 children) | Copy Link
Lmao so no role for hole just for men eh
What justifies this again?
[+]Summeronmymountain -9 points-8 points-7 points (40 children) | Copy Link
It's just how it is. The world doesn't revolve around your penis.
[–]Censoredpatriarchy[S] 2 points3 points4 points (29 children) | Copy Link
That's not a very satisfying explanation lmao hookerbeggar isn't going to get whore money in exchange for nothing 🤷♂️
[+]Summeronmymountain -6 points-5 points-4 points (28 children) | Copy Link
It's not in exchange for nothing. It's called having a family. You must have had a really shit one growing up LOL!
[–]Censoredpatriarchy[S] 5 points6 points7 points (17 children) | Copy Link
Lmao if that's good enough then why does men's and only men's job loss lead to divorce?
It is what it is. If leaving men for job loss is ok, leaving women for no sex is ok
That's what no fault divorce is anyway 🤷♂️
[–]Summeronmymountain -3 points-2 points-1 points (16 children) | Copy Link
Because his failing that role can lead to the destitution and death of the wife and children.
[–]Censoredpatriarchy[S] 4 points5 points6 points (15 children) | Copy Link
In a comfortable first world democracy,
1) that's not very common stop being overdramatic
2) she can also work
It's all just fulfilling internal desires and convenience. There's no life and death in this shit. Thus women's interests/desires/conveniences are no more and no less worthy of divorce
[–]Summeronmymountain -1 points0 points1 point (14 children) | Copy Link
I'm just telling you how the rules came to be as they are. Family is supposed to come first. And most wives of unemployed husbands are in fact very patient up to a point. It's normal for people to lose jobs in fact it happens to everyone at some point. But if the guy won't hold a job down and is a constant screw-up, it's really not fair for the wife to be supporting him in addition to everything else wives are expected to do.
[–]Censoredpatriarchy[S] 0 points1 point2 points (13 children) | Copy Link
Then restore patriarchy and give men easier access to jobs i.e. not competing with women 🤷♂️it's already stated with Hoe v Wade overturn, and when women whine like beggars about why it's happening, they won't have to look far for the answer
[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 1 point2 points3 points (9 children) | Copy Link
Only an idiot thinks a man should actually PAY for a dead bedroom. Are you insane?
[–]Summeronmymountain -1 points0 points1 point (8 children) | Copy Link
Only an idiot makes it as simplistic as you did. Did you guys in this sub all grow up in orphanages? Do you know what a family is?
[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 1 point2 points3 points (5 children) | Copy Link
You're running quite the profitable racket there, bullying men into agreeing to pay for sexless marriages. What's your cut on those women's profits?
[–]Summeronmymountain 0 points1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy Link
What the hell are you talking about?
[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 1 point2 points3 points (3 children) | Copy Link
You don't remember what you wrote? You're trying to use shaming language to compel men to pay for dead bedrooms. Fucking headass.
[–]ErrprMachjne1 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Your comments are deranged but I give you credit some of the insults you sling are great lol
[–]Summeronmymountain 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The only deranged one here is you. I can see your other fucked-up comments.
[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 2 points3 points4 points (9 children) | Copy Link
And this is why so many men have decided not to get married.
[–]Summeronmymountain -3 points-2 points-1 points (8 children) | Copy Link
Too bad they don't also neuter themselves.
[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 4 points5 points6 points (7 children) | Copy Link
Serve women or get neutered! Fucking fascist.
[–]Summeronmymountain -1 points0 points1 point (6 children) | Copy Link
It's not about serving women. We don't need any more fatherless babies.
[–]Censoredpatriarchy[S] 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Stupid sluts will keep doing that without a patriarchy
[–]Summeronmymountain 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Not if the men don't have balls.
[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 2 points3 points4 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Then don't deny your husband sex and he won't leave. Too bad you can't neuter him you fucking fascist.
[–]Summeronmymountain 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
We're not talking about married couples. We're talking about these rogue single males going around trying to screw everything from age 9 to age 90.
[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
"We" are not talking about that. OP is talking about married couples.
[–]ErrprMachjne1 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
And she's not going to die if she fucks him or gives him an epic blow job. No need to be dramatic right
[–]Summeronmymountain 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
He's not going to die if he has to consider his partner's feelings instead of just his own either. Last I checked it's mostly men causing the dead bedrooms anyway.
[–]thotswillthot 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree