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How to deal with a girl's friends such that they don't get in the way of a potential relationship?

pizzae

September 6, 2018

4 upvotes

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Lets just say that one day you like a girl and she likes you back. Most likely this girl will be one of the prettier girls in her group of girl friends but isn't the alpha. How would you deal with the alpha and other members of this group so that they don't get jealous of you taking their friend and making your life a living hell? Her friends may also try to influence her and say that you are trying to pull them away from them, and blame you as the bad guy.

How do you deal with politics regarding groups of female girls?

The only technique I can find is to flatter everyone, especially the alpha girl. Flattering them would perhaps lower their guard and make you less of a bad guy? Also if you provide enough value by your social status, the rest may want to associate with you and tolerate you being around?

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Title	How to deal with a girl's friends such that they don't get in the way of a potential relationship?
Author	pizzae
Upvotes	4
Comments	14
Date	September 6, 2018 9:48 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/askTRP
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/9dgv6j/how_to_deal_with_a_girls_friends_such_that_they/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/askTRP/how-to-deal-with-a-girls-friends-such-that-they.132214 https://theredarchive.com/post/132214

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[–]StrifePrevails2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]pizzae[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]ReddJive1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

There is no such thing as an alpha female. There is one at the top of their dominance hierarchy but she can be replaced quickly. Women are not Alpha.

Hide behind all the Red Pill terms you want. The fact is you are investing in too much here. Knowing what you want also means knowing what you don't. You are clearly willing to put up with a lot to fuck one girl. Let that sink in. Exactly how much is your time worth fucking this one girl? You seem to be willing to put a lot into it.

Two things stand out here that prove to me that your frame is weak and you are wiling to submit to this social group.

Flattering them would perhaps lower their guard and make you less of a bad guy?

As opposed to what? Being you? You are wiling to not be yourself? To imitate other behavior just to fuck some girl?

Also if you provide enough value by your social status, the rest may want to associate with you and tolerate you being around?

DUFUQ?!

First you give value to those that deserve it. Does anyone in this group deserve to be with an awesome dude like you? Sure you try once MAYBE twice, but then move the fuck on. They lost out on the party. Second tolerate? Seriously? You want to be with people that just tolerate you.

"He was ok to hang out with. He was funny, but I certainly wound't want to fuck him. Now that ReddJive in the corner there, such an asshole but there is something about him."

Yeah keep being the bitch they tolerate. Until you learn that this is not about them but about what you want and what you tolerate in life, sex, and relationships of any kind you will still keep seeking out people who just tolerate you.

Women are like buses. Always another one coming.

[–]pizzae[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Ok, I find your different approach and perspective interesting, so I'll bite.

Alpha is determined in biology as the person or animal at the top of the hierarchy. Doesn't matter if this is male or female. Number 1 rank in hierarchy = alpha. Not sure what definition of Alpha you are using.

If I want to just have lots of fun, as much as possible, as quick as possible, then I'll take the shotgun approach and not invest a lot in chasing a girl, since like you said, there's many more out there. However, if I decide to take my time either for a girl that is potential LTR or if I just decide to do so, then I will take the sniper approach and do what it takes to get what I want. Depends on what I want to do or feel like doing.

Now lets start having this friendly debate since you and I have different approaches and beliefs.

Two things stand out here that prove to me that your frame is weak and you are wiling to submit to this social group.

As opposed to what? Being you? You are wiling to not be yourself? To imitate other behavior just to fuck some girl?

Now from these two statements, I'm automatically getting this assumption that you are like most of the guys at TRP: Too much testosterone, too much ego, being obnoxious, always brute forcing your way through. Basically the meat head, roided, big guy stereotype I see often in the gym. With people like you, if there's something in your way, you'll just act aggressive and tough and if you don't get what you want, you'll leave. This is my guess.

I don't believe that most people would enjoy being around people like you. And people like you would probably respond with "Doesn't matter, screw them". I can also agree with that response, however my approach would be different. People like you would never submit to social groups, and this can be good or bad depending on the situation. At best, you'll just be the awkward meat head guy at the party who doesn't know how to compromise with people, at worst you'll end up bruising the ego of someone who can't take it properly and is in a position more powerful than you.

So my approach is basically like yours (on the inside, "its all about me"), but on the outside I appear to be friendly and "submitting". You seem to act like a wolf and make it obviously so, you also seem to wear it like a badge of honour. For someone like me, I'd rather be a wolf in sheeps clothing; its more effective. You will be just as effective as a wolf, but without all the unneeded attention. Its also flexible, you can blend in any environment, the wolf's forest or the sheep's pen. A proud wolf cannot blend in to the sheep's pen.

So to address those 2 points:

No, I'm not submitting to the social group. I'm playing the game in order to get what I want. Power is not in acting arrogant and being pretentious with the meat head arrogant attitude; to me that screams lack of vulnerability and deep down insecurity. Power is in being able to deceive people, and look like you're friendly or even liking them, but deep down either hating them or being apathetic. In actual reality, my submission is only a facade, on the outside. I remain in control and I pull the strings. Being able to make anger, ego and greed your bitch is more powerful than letting those emotions control you, which is what I see with the typical "TRP" meathead stereotype.
Again, it seems as though TRP meatheads prefer to be honest with themselves, never letting dishonesty go inside them for even one bit. Failure to blend in and supplicate or submit to others on the outside only shows a lack of flexibility. Yes, I'm willing to lie to myself, not be myself and act like a sheep, temporarily and on the outside, all to gain what I want. Why is strategic thinking so foreign and uneasy / uncomfortable for the TRP stereotype?

First you give value to those that deserve it. Does anyone in this group deserve to be with an awesome dude like you? Sure you try once MAYBE twice, but then move the fuck on. They lost out on the party. Second tolerate? Seriously? You want to be with people that just tolerate you.

Yes, true value should be only given to those who deserve it. Everyone else will simply get the illusion of value if that is required to get to the end goal. I don't see anything weak in this. I personally think its more weak being very arrogant and defensive and unwilling to participate.

Also this makes the assumption that I am always higher in the social hierarchy when I would supposedly go out to meet girls. This is not the case. There will be times where the girls may all be lower than me in status, equal in status, or even higher in status. Different situations call for different strategies. Acting aggressive may work well with girls lower in status than you, but it won't work as well for those higher. I believe that by acting like a bitch to girls of higher status, I can use them as "trophy friends" to raise my status, giving me more opportunities, such as opportunities with other girls.

I look forward to your response with your different perspective. It should help me learn more.

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