Ending the Last Minute Resistance controversy with SRS

Whisper · 2012-01-25T09:30:38+00:00

Do not pay any attention to SRS. They are trolls.

In general, seddit and the gameosphere needs to stop licking the boots of the far left wing and begging not to be called rapists and sociopaths. They are going to call us rapists and sociopaths no matter what we do, so long we continue to try to have some control over our sex lives, instead of ceding it all to women.

That is what they effectively want. They do not care about what women actually find attractive. They do not care what actually works for young men. They only care about making us behave as if we lived in a feminist fantasy ideal universe, and to hell with our lives in the real one.

The only thing that matters to them is making us participate in their collaborative lies. And as long as we care whether they call us immoral or not, they will be able to.

We know we are not rapists. We know the difference between persuasion and force. And that's the only standard that matters.

ilikepix · 2012-01-25T12:29:00+00:00

I appreciate what you're trying to do, but it's not going to work. The fundamental difference is that SRS thinks that trying to convince someone to sleep with you in pretty much any fashion is manipulation and emotional coercion, whereas /r/seduction thinks that pretty much anything which doesn't involve explicit coercion or threats is fair game.

SRS just has totally different standards for sexual consent. Many of them believe in "enthusiastic consent", e.g. if you go home with a girl and sexually escalate but never actually ask to fuck her, it can be rape (even if she doesn't give any indication she doesn't want to sleep with you). Many believe that subtle body language signals (e.g. looking at a watch) can be enough to transform something into rape in the absence of explicit verbal consent. They believe that you must never try to convince a woman to sleep with you after she has given that first "No". Some believe that simply asking for sex more than once can cross the line into coercion, and the ones that don't will argue "Why would you even want to sleep with someone if you had to convince them to do it?"

In other words, this LMR thing is a symptom of a much wider philosophical difference about what consent means. By SRS standards, I have been raped before (and probably you have too). It's not worth getting into it with them.

puaCurveBall · 2012-01-25T15:52:21+00:00

I removed this post, and I did it because the because they are trolls and I'm not into feeding trolls, just ignoring them.

Seddit is about post that improve guys ability to meet the opposite sex, not be "right" on reddit or participate in cross-subreddit drama.

Severen · 2012-01-25T13:38:05+00:00

I've read all the comments on that post and all I can about those feminist man haters is that if they were actually raped I am sorry but quit fucking blaming every man in the world for it. From theft to assault to murder the person who actually perpetrates the crime is to blame but if someone gets raped all men are to blame, where's the logic in that? There is nothing anyone can say or do to change their minds.

Title	Ending the Last Minute Resistance controversy with SRS
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Comments	6
Date	January 25, 2012 8:46 AM UTC (14 years ago)
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