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Great post on Actionable Adivce (by Illuminatus)

AaronSleazy

February 23, 2012

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http://www.pua-zone.com/showthread.php?2810-How-to-Give-Actionable-Advice

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Title	Great post on Actionable Adivce (by Illuminatus)
Author	AaronSleazy
Upvotes	12
Comments	4
Date	February 23, 2012 1:57 PM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/q2h74/great_post_on_actionable_adivce_by_illuminatus/
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[–][deleted] 14 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]revbobdobbs 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't entirely disagree with the author, but I don't entirely agree either.

It's kind of ironic that he mentions Aaron sleazy as a motivator for his way of thinking. The best way to frame my objection is to make reference to another concept that I picked up from Sleazy.

Actionable advice is very important. We all need the training wheels at the start.

However, learners need exposure to the master mindsets.

Sleazy makes reference to two kinds of thinking: "Learning Mindsets" and "Master Mindsets". Actionable advice is an easy way for learners to guide each other, and for masters to guide learners.

But the master isn't seductive because the things that he does. He is seductive because of the nature of his personality. His very being.

As a result, if students were actually instructed in the E-Prime language, they would never be presented with signposts of mastery.

Here is an example:

A learner says "how can I have no AA?".

One good response is "be outcome independent." It's the simple truth. It also offers a signpost of mastery: the master is independent of outcome.

Of course, the next step is to offer steps towards becoming independent of outcome which are actionable.

[–]QuincyPenguin 2 points3 points4 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]InterestingTimesMag 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link