How effective is the way of Ross Jeffries ?

puaCurveBall · 2012-09-14T18:17:57+00:00

I think you can pull a lot of great material and mindsets from his stuff.

I don't think that NLP is any different than talking normally to women in terms of effectiveness, and I think in many cases it comes across badly when you are doing "image" / "symbolism" manipulation routines.

However, a lot of his stuff on how to talk to a woman about her job / life / past, how to move from getting the facts from her, to her underlying emotions, to her triggers that let her recognize those emotions are extremely powerful and not something I see in many other seduction products.

If you can look past 80-90% of the bullshit (like with any product in pickup) and focus on the stuff that makes sense to you, it is great stuff!

skeletondog · 2012-09-14T15:15:35+00:00

Not very, and also pretty creepy.

e: for content, Derren Brown the mentalist talks a bit about it in his book. He says that NLP practitioners like to point at him and his "mind control" tricks as being examples of NLP in action, but every event or piece of literature he's seen of it is total junk. Some NLP society apparently sends him a letter renewing his "membership" every year without him asking.

ThrowawayPUA · 2012-09-15T01:52:09+00:00

Jeffries kind of went insane a while ago. He now sells products based on occultism, claiming that he can control peoples' minds with magick rituals and psychic powers. There may be some legitimate basis to occultism, but you're sure not going to find anything legitimate in a commercial product from Ross Jeffries.

2012-09-15T00:49:56+00:00

It's convoluted and requires a great deal of effort for minimal return.

sillymallard · 2012-09-15T00:56:50+00:00

It's effective. Too much thinking and work in my opinion, but he is a testament to it working. Some people think it's too contrived/creepy.

Title	How effective is the way of Ross Jeffries ?
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Date	September 14, 2012 3:03 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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