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"One month in, after she had turned my initiations about 5 days in a row, she asked what was going on, why I was acting so strange. I said I was just improving myself and pursing my goals. She asked me to stop initiating as much and I said no. She wants once a week, but if it was up to her it’d be once a month to never. I said I’ll initiate when I want to, and I’m totally fine with a no. She said I was being cocky, and was joking about her concerns, and not giving her enough attention. She said …
/r/MarriedRedPill08/01/18 03:39 PM
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He's also tall and very good looking.
/r/seduction16/09/16 02:03 PM
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Girls already in relationships are usually too much work when there are much easier opportunities around. Don't be mean to her, but don't be nice to her. She may very well want to jump from one secure thing to the next without suffering any insecurity downtime. That's childish and wouldn't really work for my style.
/r/seduction14/09/16 05:00 PM
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It sounds like you need a little introspection to build your self-esteem up. Seriously, just let the women worry about whether you are attractive or not. All you have to worry about is putting your best foot forward when you game. Play the cards life handed you and don't wish you had someone else's. I've got a funny clip for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohbv6haI1aQ . It's going to get much better for you soon. You are setting yourself up for a solid, lucrative career and your 20's will b…
/r/seduction14/09/16 03:51 PM
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I know what you mean. It's MUCH better to sit side-by-side than directly in front of the person. So sitting at a bar, 4-person table where you are on their side, a booth, or a benihana type place is really way easier than looking at the person directly the whole time.
/r/seduction14/09/16 03:44 PM
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Surround yourself with people who you want to become.
/r/seduction14/09/16 03:42 PM
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Sounds like they were nervous. Instead of just noticing it do something next time to make them feel safe and comfortable.
/r/seduction14/09/16 03:39 PM
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Here's mine: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/r381m/advice_from_an_experienced_natural_68_year_old/ I'm married now and have a house full of love. It's not all perfect, but no relationship is. Seduction sometimes gets cheapened to mean how to find girls and take them home, but where it's really needed is in relationships. I think women are women whether or not you are seeing them for the first time or have been married for decades.
/r/seduction14/09/16 02:41 PM
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ONEITIS. Before you knew her, she was a stranger, and you were just fine without knowing her. It takes 21 days to break a habit. The first few days are rough, but mark 21 days on your calendar of doing something differently to get over this girl, and you will.
/r/seduction20/11/15 06:13 PM
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Walking on the street during the day, and opening in bars early in the night.
/r/seduction20/11/15 06:11 PM
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Yes. If you have a portable one, just walk around with it. It's the best peacocking that doesn't look like peacocking. You'll be surprised by how many people will ask you what you play. It's almost as good as a dog.
/r/seduction20/11/15 06:10 PM
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Personally, I like something during the day and outside. Something about daylight puts humans at ease and gives a great context for having fun.
/r/seduction20/11/15 06:09 PM
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You're confused because you don't know what you want, for yourself, without her in the equation. First figure out what it is you want by going on tinder, and if she can offer you what you want, then go for it. Otherwise, just move on.
/r/seduction12/11/15 08:19 PM
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Yes, ask her!
/r/seduction12/11/15 08:18 PM
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What a shitty person for critiquing you like that. Never take a woman's advice on how to seduce women, unless the woman is a lesbian. You should have responded with "I'd probably seduce you better if you look sexier. You suck at looking sexy." I really feel this person will not help you with your game or confidence and it sounds like you are about to get oneitis. Remember the good times, and thank her for the experience that you will carry into your future relationships. Cancel your meeting with…
/r/seduction12/11/15 08:15 PM
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"How to Talk to Anyone" by Leil Lowndes
/r/seduction12/11/15 08:08 PM
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Oh sweet, I don't have sex until the 20th.
/r/seduction12/11/15 12:06 AM
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This is pickup 101. Girls who aren't getting attention are jealous of their friends who are. They react by cockblocking. It's really simple to minimize this from happening. Just talk to her friends. Interject yourself when they try to pull her away taking all of your focus off the girl you're interested and engaging the friends. Once they like you, they might even help you with the girl you are interested in. BTW, guys cockblock too for a similar reason but usually react differently. Instead of …
/r/seduction12/11/15 12:01 AM
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What an awesome outcome! That didn't hurt too much. Be sure to say hi and be friendly to her in the future. She might pass the word onto her friends about you.
/r/seduction10/11/15 07:35 PM
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Honesty is a form of confidence, perhaps it's best form. I used to post a lot about how to improve your attitude, be a better person, and be super confident no matter what. A lot of people loved these posts, but there was one person who strongly disagreed with me. He challenged me to realize that women don't want a happy, confident man, and you don't need to be in "state" to get them. You could show up to the bar with whatever attitude you were in and get girls as long as you put yourself out th…
/r/seduction10/11/15 07:31 PM
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(Tap on the shoulder) Hey what's up. I wanted to ask you, have you ever been out and about and you see a really cool looking or attractive guy that you wished would give you eye contact or say something to you? Or you wanted to talk to him but didn't know how? Or maybe you did know what to say, but you were worried about if he had a girlfriend already or would flat out reject you? Yeah, it's kind of a predicament, right? Because sometimes you want to meet new people, and you are worried about ho…
/r/seduction09/11/15 07:14 PM
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Telling the woman about approach anxiety as a part of your routine has worked for me.
/r/seduction09/11/15 06:13 PM
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Sounds like you are a quieter introvert type. Talk to the person next to you instead of the group. I think you might have more fun that way.
/r/seduction24/09/15 10:50 PM
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I'd agree with this. You were a stranger to her with whom she could talk frankly to about sex and do some sexual stuff, but you didn't connect on a non-sexual level. It sounds like you have a winner of a girl and I wouldn't give up. Plan a hangout during the middle of the day without alcohol and connect on a friends level. If it goes well, turn the day into the night and do what you did last time.
/r/seduction22/09/15 04:54 PM
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"I did notice that she started to get noticeably uncomfortable after we sat down on a random park bench and I put my arm around her shoulder, but I kept it there instead of pulling back." That's your problem in all of these dates. Sometimes pulling back means ending the date, telling her you had a good time, and making plans to see her again. A LOT of girls will not kiss on the first date as a rule, and by not respecting their values and going for it anyway, you are guaranteeing that their anti-…
/r/seduction22/09/15 04:48 PM
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Thanks man. Yes. Turn everything into baby steps. Make it easy for yourself! I always tell people who are trying to learn pickup to first practice talking to salespeople or old grandparent types...then move onto others..groups of guys, then groups of guys/girls, etc.... Hitting on hot girls should be the last step. Here are some tips I wrote for meeting people on the street a while ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/askseddit/comments/r7jgp/question_on_approaching_women/c43r0yn
/r/seduction21/09/15 06:44 PM
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The best part of going out by yourself is that you can TRULY be yourself, exactly how you want to be. Here are a few tips from personal experience: Bars/Clubs: Go EARLY. Be one of the first people there, if not the first. Talk to the bartender. If you have the courage, talk to the few people who are there, especially if they are guys. Make them your wingmen or your "group" for the night. As more people come in, introduce yourself. Go back to your group and tell them how it went, if there were an…
/r/seduction21/09/15 06:13 PM
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Always better to err on being overdressed than underdressed. One of my friends goes all out, but he does it to a T. That means perfectly trimmed hair, custom-fit designer suit, ironed shirt in the latest design, immaculate shoes, a slick watch, everything matching well, etc. He does it because he loves that shit, not because he's trying to get girls, and he looks damn good. I would encourage you to try it, for fun. If it's not you though, then it's not you.
/r/seduction03/09/15 06:46 PM
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Look up David Wygant and his farmer's market videos. They're great!
/r/seduction23/07/15 09:31 PM
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Alone. Unless you are lucky enough to have a friend(s) who is in the know of exactly what you are up to and 100% supportive/encouraging of it, your friends will introduce inhibitions and complications into your game.
/r/seduction23/07/15 09:28 PM
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OR: Go to the mall and approach salespeople. They're paid to talk to you. That's a good first step to getting comfortable with talking to strangers.
/r/seduction23/07/15 09:24 PM
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You are not sexually escalating. If you don't do this or don't know how to do this, then you have nothing. Building rapport and nothing else is the easiest thing to do and is not an accomplishment. Having your shit together is also meaningless. Just decide you will sexually escalate to the point where you can hold a girl's hand or kiss her, if you're too scared. Chances are if you get this far, you'll want to go further ;-)
/r/seduction23/07/15 09:23 PM
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Gaming sober on drunk girls is like playing T-ball with 5-year olds. Honestly, one of the best confidence boosts I experienced when learning game. Note: Don't be a creep.
/r/seduction11/07/15 12:42 AM
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How do you know you like a girl? Sounds like you are taking their good looks and building a persona around this, i.e., putting them on a pedestal.
/r/seduction11/07/15 12:41 AM
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Subtle improvement: "I'd like to take you out."
/r/seduction11/07/15 12:39 AM
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It's just opening yet another channel to form a connection. It's a great thing to do.
/r/seduction11/07/15 12:37 AM
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I play an instrument and noticed it was an easy one for people to comment on. It's almost as good as a dog.
/r/seduction11/07/15 12:36 AM
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Yep. Once I've made plans with a girl I NEVER text her. If we've planned to meet up, and if she flakes, then it's next.
/r/seduction11/07/15 12:35 AM
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Cool stuff madbreakfast. I agree with you.
/r/seduction08/07/15 07:15 AM
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Give, don't take. That's a big part of pickup. What you want? Don't be selfish.
/r/seduction08/07/15 05:41 AM
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So, I think I agree with you, but not 100%. A large part of game is going to the gym to get in shape, taking some serious fashion advice, and improving your posture. I would say that these things do improve your level of attractiveness. Where you are correct is that game teaches you to be outcome independent, maintain the right attitude to protect yourself from getting butthurt from a blowout, and pressing the NEXT button really quickly instead of getting oneitis. I think another large part of t…
/r/seduction08/07/15 01:09 AM
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so the problem is another.However It's an issue that the pu community is still unwilling to face without censorship What is the issue you refer to that the PU community is unwilling to face?
/r/seduction07/07/15 11:20 PM
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Madbreakfast, can you PM me what you would like to say, but can't?
/r/seduction07/07/15 09:12 PM
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Yes, of course. This too!
/r/seduction07/07/15 09:11 PM
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In short, they have some game, and they learned it from their dads, uncles, cousins, friends, or coworkers.
/r/seduction07/07/15 04:41 PM
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If you've been hanging out, just the two of you, then physically escalate.
/r/seduction07/07/15 07:23 AM
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You can get a number in 30 seconds, but quality matters a lot for whether she will take time to speak to you again and take time to see you in person. Personally, about 5-15 minutes was good for me, anything longer would mean missing out on meeting other women, and anything shorter would mean a low quality interaction=less liklihood she will be down to call you back or hang out with you in the future. Go for the quality number closes.
/r/seduction07/07/15 07:21 AM
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Interesting interpretation, but this meme is pure AFC shit, not anything related to PUA. I do like how you turned it around though.
/r/seduction07/07/15 07:11 AM
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Okay, well you should do two things to move forward: 1) Have more involved conversations with men and old people than just small talk. 2) Ask women aged 22-33 for directions or the time. Just do that. I used to do that when I was starting.
/r/seduction07/07/15 07:02 AM
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LOL, tell her this: "No, because this is clearly a dead end because a girl will never take the initiative to text you first." You just said it here, now say it to their faces.
/r/seduction07/07/15 05:51 AM
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OMG, stop approaching girls, please. Start approaching dudes and old people. Seriously, I'm not kidding. You have to get used to approaching strangers first, in general. Then move onto ugly girls or groups of guys-girls. Then maybe you can move onto semi-attractive girls. Then, after you are confident with yourself, move onto the good-looking ones. Also, it sounds like you are trying to get something from girls, which is fucking creepy/irritating for girls. Give them something, a laugh, smile, h…
/r/seduction07/07/15 05:40 AM
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"I will now be seeing her pretty much every day." Don't fuck it up. You want to still be at work and have it be chill. By fuck it up, I mean, don't make it awkward for both of you at work. If she's not into you that way, be 100% okay with it. Don't go into oneitis mode. In fact, you're asking the wrong question...or at least the wrong question when I used to be active here. You never ask seddit how to get a girl. You ask seddit how to get girls.
/r/seduction07/07/15 05:38 AM
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A creep is someone with sexual intent who lacks fun. Inject fun into your interactions, give women laughs/smiles/happiness, and you will not be a creep.
/r/seduction07/07/15 05:33 AM
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Read the book "How to Talk to Anyone" by Leil Lowndes. It has dozens of specific things you can do to become a better communicator, and they all work. It's a very good resource and covers the suggestions made by Blakbeanie, third-i, DeltaRecon, and DelightfulTexas among many others.
/r/seduction07/07/15 05:30 AM
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Good. Then be honest about that, first with yourselves, and then with anyone that you meet. If it seems like someone you meet is wanting a relationship, you need to tell them that you aren't looking for that, and with a good reason too...you just got out of one. Think about this: there are many girls out there who are in your exact situation as well...got out of a relationship but miss the physical stuff. Go out and find them.
/r/seduction06/07/15 09:09 PM
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Yes, I stepped away. Found a girl, fell in love, and stopped gaming her. For the past few months, I've started to realize that I have been reverting to AFC, and am back here to bring myself back to the way I was.
/r/seduction06/07/15 06:02 PM
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Sounds like you don't know what you want. Do you want friends? Do you want dates? Do you want sex? Do you want another girlfriend? Do you just want a distraction for the next several weeks while you get over your breakup? That'll clarify what you should be doing instead of running around on the hamster wheel.
/r/seduction06/07/15 05:58 PM
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Why are you intent on clubs? Clubs suck for getting girls. Clubs are great for practice. I always say make sure you are doing at least three things on a regular basis, something physical, something artistic, and something for the community.
/r/seduction06/07/15 05:56 PM
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LOL, you should have kino-escalated while continuing to affirm that you were 100% gay and not even bi. That shit would have been awesome. "Don't worry, I'm gay" as you continue to rub her back, etc. until she says, "I don't think you're gay!" and you laugh and keep running with it the gay thing until you kiss her.
/r/seduction06/07/15 05:22 PM
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How did you pass/conquer this phase/mindset? I wanted sex!
/r/seduction06/07/15 05:19 PM
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No you don't. A woman couldn't hope to help you learn how to seduce and attract a woman because SHE'S NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE. Most AFCs can't either. PUAs know how to do this. An exception is that there are a few lesbian PUAs out there, and I would definitely take advice from these women. I'd maybe take things like fashion/style advice from women though, but only if they are good at it (e.g. are pro hairstylists or work in the fashion industry).
/r/seduction06/07/15 05:16 PM
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Yes. I have a friend who is strikingly handsome, tall, and smart. He does not chase women, even if they are 10s. He always waits for them to make a move, and pulls them with no problem at all. He got lucky with the cards he was dealt. Pickup, however, isn't about luck. It's about skill, and you can get 10s too, if you learn it well.
/r/seduction06/07/15 05:14 PM
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You're on vacation. Go talk to her. Who cares if she's older and has a boyfriend. You're on vacation and the only thing you should care about is the next step (having a short conversation), not whether or not she'll sleep with you or be your girlfriend.
/r/seduction06/07/15 05:11 PM
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Learn seduction as soon as possible (now) and use it to find a good girl to marry eventually. If you want to get married, go on this mission sooner rather than later, because the older the age bracket of men and women who are unmarried the more, on average, they are for being a bit "off" when it comes to being open to change, compromise, selflessness, and humility, and they harder to settle down with. I'm not saying all men and women are like this, but the proportion of them who are like this an…
/r/seduction06/07/15 05:09 PM
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Too much work.
/r/seduction03/07/15 10:16 PM
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Hey man. Take baby steps. Scared to talk to strangers? Go to a clothing store where people are payed to approach you and practice talking to them. That is how I started. Once you are okay with that, maybe move up to finding and approaching a salesperson instead of waiting for them to come to you. Instead of approaching hot girls, approach people who are easier to talk to: grandpas and grandmas, dudes at the bar, etc. You'll find it's not too difficult to do this. Then approach ugly girls and tal…
/r/seduction03/07/15 10:10 PM
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You are doing great if it's the woman who looks away from you first. A lot of guys make the mistake of looking away before the woman, which is a sign of submission. It sounds like you are thinking about attraction as static and two-dimensional, which is understandable because this is closer to how men are wired when it comes to attraction and why pictures of naked girls are often enough to turn us on. However, for women, how you move, your presence, and your demeanor are way more important than …
/r/seduction03/07/15 10:04 PM
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Jeremy Soul has a book and videos on it. Might be a bit old now, but he's great.
/r/seduction03/07/15 10:00 PM
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Yes.
/r/seduction03/07/15 09:58 PM
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Awesome. Try a new opener/joke everyday. Say the same exact thing to everyone on the day making a note of how effective it was. Take the ones that seemed to work best into your everyday game.
/r/seduction03/07/15 09:34 PM
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Do this exactly how I say: Take a little time to scan the room while walking around until you find someone that looks pretty to you. Tap her firmly on the shoulder, let her look at you, and say: "Hey, I saw you from over there and wanted to say hi." She will say something like, "Oh hi." "My name is kiler1111." Smile and stick your hand out for a handshake. If there are multiple people with her, introduce yourself to everyone. Then you can ask her/them any of the following boring questions/statem…
/r/seduction03/07/15 09:28 PM
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I'm going to guess that you're being so judgmental because you are taking the standards of your friends and family, combining them, and placing them on these women. I say this because your post sounded exactly like my younger self. All that matters is if YOU like her enough to have sex with her or YOU like her enough to date her. If after sex and dates you're not becoming more into her, then move on. If you are becoming more into her, well then you might be on your way to discovering Ms. Perfect…
/r/seduction03/07/15 09:06 PM
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Call
/r/seduction21/12/13 03:26 PM
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It looks like you are searching for anonymity, which is understandable. There are much cheaper ways. You can take a "vacation" any day of the week. Just drive somewhere far and practice. Don't become a regular anywhere until you're confident enough to go out in your own neighborhood and go further than interacting and getting number and kiss closes. If you have the time and money, think about going to a boot camp. That would be much more fun and unique in my opinion than just vacationing solo.
/r/seduction21/12/13 03:18 PM
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Everyone is your friend, they just don't know it yet. Keep that mentality!
/r/seduction21/12/13 03:13 PM
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You sound like a douchebag with an inability to read social cues naturally. I'm not saying you are a douchebag with said inability, but your post reads like that. Some of the best PUAs are people just like this, and it's not a bad thing if you're honest about it with yourself and others (it seems like you are). Anyway, here is the simple breakdown: Friend: Someone who you relate to, who you do fun things with, and who you enjoy hanging out with, and vice versa. Sex Partner: Someone who finds you…
/r/seduction20/12/13 10:51 PM
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The way to deal with bullies is to be 100% comfortable in your skin and to not react negatively or positively, but to go for the third option and just not react, and continue going on your business without an ounce of anger. By all means, do not use this mentality as an excuse to be oblivious to the world. Only be weird out of intention, not ignorance (or arrogance). And always look at yourself from the outside and see what part of you that you want to improve upon next.
/r/seduction20/12/13 10:37 PM
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What is the point of this post?
/r/seduction20/12/13 08:40 PM
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I was once seduced by a woman who admitted that all her past hookups together would look like the united nations. But she wasn't a slut. She said something to me when I walked past her, but she didn't get up from the seat she was at. She just looked at me. I asked her, "what?" She said she just said hi. I said, I was going to get a drink, but I'd be back. Unlike girls, guys will try to game girls just because the girl showed a sign of interest, not because the girl was cute, "his type", or looke…
/r/seduction20/12/13 08:37 PM
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Live life truthfully, and this will make all your problems of anxiety, complexity, and worry go away. It sounds like seddit is the only place where you are being true. You never forget how to swim once you know. You might suck at again it initially if there's been a long time since you've gone swimming. However, you'll still be able to do it and get back to how good you were pretty quickly. The thing about most successful PUAs is that they have changed, permanently. But you can't change your hei…
/r/seduction20/12/13 07:17 PM
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Don't worry about the friendzone. Just worry if you are gauging her interest accurately. You say she said these things, but from reading your post, it sounds like she texted them. A counteroffer or sounding sad about not being able to hang out means she still wants to and is interested. If she just gave you an excuse with nothing, then she's not interested. It sounds like she's interested, and you responded weakly by telling her it's fine. No it's not fucking fine, and don't leave it to "some ot…
/r/seduction20/12/13 06:39 PM
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In short, keep the tempo, or adjust it, usually down. If she is messaging you a lot, that's a good thing, and if you don't want to be messaging back and forth every minute, just wait a little longer before replying. The same goes for a girl who doesn't text you too often. Don't text right away after she texts you. Wait about the same amount of time she texts you, or less. For this girl, every once in a while, you should just fucking call her as soon as she texts.
/r/seduction20/12/13 06:28 PM
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I think your "problem" is that you're getting rejected a lot and letting your emotions take over instead of thinking about it rationally. Pickup is sometimes like the stock market. You can be on fire one week and then completely out of whack for two weeks after. We've all been there. Anyway, getting rejected sucks, but it's not really a problem, because when things go awry, it gives you a chance to figure out if you could do/say anything better in the future and improve. Approach women as a lear…
/r/seduction08/11/13 11:11 PM
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I assume you mean basic conversation, and not attraction. Parroting, and looking for key words are two tricks you can use. Read "How to Talk to Anyone" by Leil Lowndes for further information.
/r/seduction08/11/13 09:06 PM
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In short, you have to train your actions to move faster than your mind, just like a reflex. Try machine gunning. Just approach the first woman you see and talk to her. If she doesn't talk to you, just go to the next, and the next, and the next. Do this preferably in an area where you won't be recognized.... Also, David DeAngelo says to come up with a personal default move whenever you see a woman you want to meet. It could be some opener from Magic Bullets, or something similar to what the Simpl…
/r/seduction08/11/13 09:03 PM
1

You want eye contact? Tap her firmly a couple times on her shoulder. Make eye contact together, and then dance. Don't wait for her to look at you.
/r/seduction20/10/13 10:38 PM
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An "I'm gonna talk to the cutest girl there" attitude is setting yourself up to fail. Nobody becomes a marathon runner by waking up one morning and telling himself, "Yeah! I'm gonna do it!" The same thing with you trying to practice your game. Go and interact with people at least for the goal of practicing if not just for fun, and for fucks sake, stop committing the worst crime in pickup which is to get something from women, be it sex, validation, or just to make yourself feel good in front of o…
/r/seduction16/10/13 05:14 AM
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I really am fascinated by studies like this. The fear of rejection IS hardwired into us. You can get over any fear "not with confidence, but with competence". Learn how to swim and you too can enjoy the ocean.
/r/seduction16/10/13 05:06 AM
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Be okay to walk away, even if you've been with her for multiple years, been married, etc. Never ever lose that.
/r/seduction11/10/13 12:35 AM
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Nope. Just don't don't don't say that you've been thinking about how cute she was for all these times. Don't be creepy like that. Just focus on the present moment.
/r/seduction11/10/13 12:32 AM
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One of the biggest obstacles I had was not that my standards were too high. I was always worried about whether or not other people thought the girls I was chasing were high quality or not.
/r/seduction11/10/13 12:30 AM
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I disagree with this post. Sexual relationships and platonic relationships are two separate things, and they aren't entirely related to each other. If you want to get laid, you need to understand how to form a sexual relationship, and if you want friends, then you need to know how to form platonic relationships. The only time these intersect is when you want a sexual relationship with a friend (i.e. a girlfriend or a wife). The majority of people on seddit (myself included) suck at getting with …
/r/seduction11/10/13 12:25 AM
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Read the book called "How to Talk to Anyone" by Leil Lowndes. The book is REALLY EASY to read. The chapters are like 2-5 pages long, and you don't have to read it all at once. Two tricks that I learned off the bat: 1) Parroting. Literally repeat the last few words a person says to you. The person will start talking again, probably more about what he/she was just saying. 2) Look for key words in people's sentences. For example, if someone says "We went out to the bars last night." The two things …
/r/seduction09/09/13 01:10 AM
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All these comments suck. Google IOIs if you need more, but the most telling ways I've found are: She touches her hair. She touches one wrist with her other hand. She plays with the straw in her drink. She squares her shoulders to you even if you are not square to her. She laughs at things that you say that aren't really that funny. She asks questions about you and your life. She is comfortable with you touching her in a playful/sexual way.
/r/seduction08/08/13 07:26 AM
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Awesome man. It sounds like you have options or know that there are many options out there. Women are abundant.
/r/seduction13/07/13 12:57 AM
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It's okay. Having sex with a woman might seem like a mountain to climb, and for you, it is. So make your goals easier for yourself. Try saying hi to strangers you walk past on the street. Go shopping and ask the sales clerks how their day is going. When you are comfortable with this, then try going a step further (e.g. Ask a second question to the sales clerk how they like working at that particular store). When you go to the bar, forget girls for the moment and approach guys and see if you can …
/r/seduction13/07/13 12:53 AM
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I've found that in and out of relationships, you should just focus on what you feel comfortable with and don't worry too much about if a girl will or will not get upset about something. If everything you do is out of genuine good spirit, then you can't really mess up. Let her communicate to you what she likes or dislikes. If she throws a fit when you do something "wrong" explain to her what was going through your mind and if she doesn't calm down about it, she's not really a keeper.
/r/seduction03/07/13 07:27 PM
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Reference dependence. It's human psychology that losses hurt more than gains of equal magnitude. There is no explanation for why we are like this, just that we are like this. I wrote about this once, but it didn't get a lot of attention: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/mfeb8/reference_dependence_making_the_highs_feel_even/
/r/seduction24/06/13 10:57 PM
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That is true when thinking about relationships logically. However, seduction has to do with forming an emotional connection with people. It's for this reason that gainfully employed, classy women will get into relationships with broke dirty assholes who live in vans. Logically, such women would never go for those men, but when they meet them and are seduced by them, it does happen.
/r/seduction13/05/13 04:20 PM
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Flirting is fun, and every girl and woman likes it. Crossing the line when you are in a relationship is kino-ing and overt sexual talk. If you aren't doing these things, and the woman is taking it to mean you are being sexual when all you are doing is flirting, then it's her problem, not yours. Most other women would love jokes and conversation from any man, taken or not taken.
/r/seduction13/05/13 04:17 PM
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I think 50-50 is the way but a better way to do it if you're going for a relationship is to alternate who pays rather than splitting the bill.
/r/seduction03/05/13 05:26 PM
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You overthink things, which is exactly what I do. So simplify: Be positive and outcome independent. You are going to have fun no matter what happens, whether she's into you, just want to be friends, or is a complete cold bitch. If she turns out to be the ice queen, she will make for a great story with your friends after the date. You are going on a date because you found her interesting, want to know more about her, and are open to the possibility of a romantic relationship happening, but that's…
/r/seduction03/05/13 05:17 PM
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I don't understand your post. Are you 20-25 minutes away from everything? If not, then I don't understand your problem.
/r/seduction03/05/13 05:09 PM
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This is a great way to practice talking out loud. I would agree with most people here that once you have talking down, start working on listening.
/r/seduction03/05/13 05:07 PM
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This is a really good question, and I'm interested to see the responses. David Wygant is probably your man for talking sexually in a mature, classy way.
/r/seduction22/04/13 05:47 PM
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I don't think her friend would appreciate her sharing her picture with people she didn't explicitly send it to. Likewise you wouldn't want her sharing naked pictures of yourself with her friend. Tell her that.
/r/seduction20/04/13 08:23 PM
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This question was asked before, and the person who helped me the most, who has written a whole guide on it, and has many in-field videos on youtube is Jeremy Soul from Love Systems. Krauser PUA has some good in-field videos as well.
/r/seduction16/04/13 01:29 AM
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Just remember that your girlfriend is not just a person you have a sexual relationship with, but also a friend. You do nice things for your friends, and you can do nice things for your girlfriend. Just don't get too friendly or else you'll get friendzoned (she'll lose interest). You have to do both things, keep her sexually interested and maintain her friendship. If you pickup women and do the 100% honest what-you-see-is-what-you-get kind of game and it turns into a relationship, you really shou…
/r/seduction16/04/13 12:21 AM
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You should have made out with those girls. The reason is that I feel you're "need for an emotional connection" is an obstacle for improving your game. This is just the same as any obstacle (e.g. thinking you need a good body). I've kissed lots of girls randomly, and I don't regret doing it at all, because it's fun. Remember that. This is all supposed to be for fun. If, on the other hand, you have excellent game and experience with women, which I doubt you do, by all means look for that emotional…
/r/seduction11/04/13 09:10 PM
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Hmmm, I know what you are talking about, but I disagree. If you meet a woman in broad daylight, outside, and sober, and she's willing to talk to you, your success rate of closing is far higher than at a club on a Saturday night. False time constraints are your friend if you feel she might be flighty.
/r/seduction28/03/13 07:35 PM
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My first kiss with a to-be girlfriend was in public. It was the "wrong" place, I know, but the timing was perfect. It was awkward because it was in public. But I kissed her nonetheless! We're still together.
/r/seduction26/03/13 08:17 PM
1

You know how you set aside time in your week to work-out? Set aside time in your week to pick-up/date. It doesn't have to be everyday, but you have to make it work and you have to make time for it, otherwise it's not going to happen. For me, what worked was setting aside Friday and Saturday nights to game for 1 hour each night, and setting aside Sunday afternoons, and Tuesday/Wednesday nights to either go on dates, read more seduction material, watch PUA videos, work on my style, pick-up lines, …
/r/seduction26/03/13 08:11 PM
1

Gah. It's not about the numbers. It's about the good numbers. You know, the ones where the girl will pick up wanting to talk to you and wanting to hang out with you. I'd rather get less numbers that are of good quality (low flake percentage) than a tonne of numbers.
/r/seduction27/02/13 10:51 PM
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Right, but go to some forgotten place in the Brazilian amazon and ask them to game the girls there. They would look like old creeps. Unless you are Barack Obama or someone that famous where EVERYONE knows who you are, attractiveness is conext specific.
/r/seduction20/01/13 11:49 PM
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I'm convinced that 99% of people are able to become better than average by fixing the things that are in their control, such as physical fitness, dress, and how you move. Attractiveness is also context-specific. A rockstar might be the most alpha man at his concert, but might be the most unnatractive man when it comes to something else like surfing if he's super awkward and uncoordinated.
/r/seduction20/01/13 12:44 AM
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One thing that many don't realize is the amount of information that is stripped away through electronic communication. I could say this sentence one of many different ways. How I say it could convey confidence, aggression, sarcasm, indifference, humor, sillyness, happiness, shyness, beta-ness, horniness, creepiness, etc. Voice communication can convey much more information than simple electronic text, but even voice communication sucks compared to real life. I could say something as an aggressor…
/r/seduction20/01/13 12:37 AM
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I've written this before, but you are the classic entertainer guy. Here are your options: Pickup Artist/Gentleman/Cool Guy: Fun/Funny + Sexual Intent Entertainer Guy (i.e. you): Fun/Funny + No Sexual Intent Creep/Pervert : No Fun/Funny + Sexual Intent Wallflower/Forever Alone: No Fun/Funny + No Sexual Intent Most people start seduction as a wallflower, and the first step, before gaming girls, is to become a friendly outgoing person. The problem is that game doesn't end here. Being the happy, fun…
/r/seduction20/01/13 12:18 AM
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When you are the hot guy and already have higher value than the women you are gaming, yes, do not neg or misunderstand normal conversation from women as a shit test, because you've already bypassed this stuff on your own merit. Attractiveness and value aren't universal, they are contextual. I might be super attractive on stage, but put me in a basketball game and I'm a zero. Same thing applies to you unless you are someone universally valued (e.g. Barack Obama).
/r/seduction15/01/13 10:18 PM
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I'm not necessarily hot, but I play in a music trio regularly, and for a few nights a week I'm the hot guy. I think the key thing to remember is you don't need to neg or pass shit tests that much. If you do, you'll come across as an asshole. Imagine if a girl's favorite famous actor came up to her and started negging her. She already put her bitch shield down the minute he showed up and is getting punched for no real reason.
/r/seduction15/01/13 07:16 PM
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I never text until I've had a (good) date/Day 2. I call fairly soon, usually the next day or the day after, and if she doesn't pick up, I leave her a friendly voicemail reminding her who I am and telling her to call me when she's free. If I don't hear from her, then it's done. When I do get to talk to her the time I spend on the phone depends on how much I spoke to her when we first met. If it was only a minute, then I make it a point to build comfort on the phone for a good 15-20 minutes before…
/r/seduction15/01/13 07:10 PM
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"Why doesn't she think so" is the mentality that will bring on a bout of oneitis. Whichever girl you choose means pick the attributes you want in a girl from body type to personality to hobbies and interests. Go out and find these types of girls and game them, and you will get the girl you want. Improve your game and you will succeed faster.
/r/seduction15/01/13 07:00 PM
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This reminds me of myself. The reason I felt ashamed about it or froze up is because I didn't know what to do or how it was supposed to play out. Also, my parents are pretty conservative and had expectations over the type of person I was going to end up with, and I had to have a long , but respectful conversation with them that I couldn't live up to both their standards and mine at the same time.
/r/seduction15/01/13 05:40 PM
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My honest opinion? Fuck waiting on them, and double down bro! Life is short. If they don't make eye contact, then say something to them somewhat loud like "Hey, how's it going." Or go even further, tap them on the shoulder twice, and say, "Hey, I noticed you over there, and I wanted to say hi. How's your day going so far?" Anyway, I took a month or so working on eye contact and small conversation with strangers on the street, sober and during the day, and here is what works for me: http://www.re…
/r/seduction14/01/13 09:42 PM
1

"How Christmas shopping going?" Then you talk about what you're shopping for and who it's for, or you could just approach them and ask them for advice for gifts for your sister or mom.
/r/seduction15/11/12 04:11 AM
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You're young. Eventually you'll get to the point in your life where you can see yourself and your parents both as adults. The quicker you can get here, the better your game, self-confidence, maturity, and success in life will be. Remember this comment when you turn 28.
/r/seduction13/11/12 05:11 AM
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Tell your parents and relatives that you see a girl who is cute. If they're not super conservative stiff people, they should be thrilled that you, a wonderful person, in their opinion finds a girl attractive. If they care about you, they will start telling you to do something about it, telling you what to say, or even going up and talking to the girl for you. You go up, approach, and if you fail, they will still love you. Your family can be your best wingmen/wingwomen if you are honest with them…
/r/seduction04/11/12 10:59 PM
2

Sarge so much until you convince yourself that there are even lots of "gorgeous" girls.
/r/seduction31/10/12 11:38 PM
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Pretend you're in a staring contest with the person you're interacting with. Go a little bit easy if with it if you're talking to another guy, because it can sometimes be taken as a sign of aggression. If you're not interacting with the person, you will come across as leery/creepy. Relevance: I have been told numerous times that I have "deep" or "intense" eyes.
/r/seduction31/10/12 11:18 PM
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You're a fucking catch man. David DeAngelo has a great interview with a black PUA in his interview series. I don't know the name of the PUA off the top of my head, but find it if you can. It'll make you feel less self-conscious and more self-embraceable. I'm South Asian. I used to think that white girls in the U.S. didn't like South Asian men. The problem is that most South Asian men don't know how to be sexually attractive like their white American counterparts. This builds a negative stereotyp…
/r/seduction18/10/12 07:20 PM
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From my experience, you can't unlearn what you've learned, just like riding a bicycle. However, you do get rusty.
/r/seduction17/10/12 07:48 PM
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I agree with this. I've explained numerous times to her that I'm going to flirt with girls I encounter, and that I will never ever cheat on her. I've told her she's free to do the same. As long as she picks up when I call her and she comes home to me, there's really no problem.
/r/seduction17/10/12 07:47 PM
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No. All the time, shy people prefer not to hang out in large groups, because introverts don't prefer to hang out in large groups. That doesn't mean they shouldn't learn to manage in big groups, or extroverts learn to manage with 1-on-1 interaction.
/r/seduction15/10/12 08:13 PM
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No it's not. It's a difference in preferences.
/r/seduction15/10/12 07:59 PM
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Baby steps. Don't make your goal kissing a girl. Make it touching her arm. When you get comfortable with this, move onto hugging. When you get comfortable with this, make it touching her waist. Then holding hands. Etc. Use Vin Di Carlo's escalation ladder as a guide.
/r/seduction15/10/12 06:48 PM
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Solo sarging is great. Commit to doing it 10 times, not 1 time. The first time will probably suck. You might not even say hi to anyone.
/r/seduction15/10/12 06:44 PM
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As an introvert myself, the only difference I really see between us and extroverts is the number of people we prefer to be around. For extroverts, the more the merrier, generally speaking. For introverts, being in a group of 1-4 people is prime, and more than this gets to be annoying/taxing. However, being an introvert is not an acceptable excuse for lacking of social and communication skills.
/r/seduction15/10/12 06:16 PM
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You're doing just fine. About a year ago I went on a bar crawl with a huge group of people and hit on like 50 sets over the night. One of the girls we were with went up to me, and says, wow, you don't seem to have any problem with getting the ladies. I grabbed her and we just started dancing right there. I think what she's saying is half a shit test and half an IOI. As long as you're not being a raging douchebag, I think it's great that you can go out and have fun no matter who you're with.
/r/seduction08/10/12 05:19 PM
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It's also good practice to get rejected a lot and be familiar with what it feels like. Recognizing a familiar outcome/emotion makes it much easier to deal with than when it's all new. I think there are many great field reports on seddit, but there is a distinct lack of material on how to handle blowouts and rejections, what you should say/do/think, and how to recover quickly.
/r/seduction07/10/12 10:32 PM
1

Act like you're angry. Look angrier, but not too much.
/r/seduction07/10/12 10:27 PM
1

Try to forget who they are. Then try opening them again. I think at RSD bootcamps they sometimes make students re-open sets that blew them out initially.
/r/seduction28/09/12 01:50 AM
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Don't do that. If anything, send her a text that you're on your way. Honestly though, I like to see if a girl will keep her word or not, because I want to date someone who is as reliable as me.
/r/seduction26/09/12 07:10 PM
1

Sorry for the wall of text, but I am partly writing this for myself as well as for you: Well the answer, from what I know, is maybe not what you'd like to hear. You can't just turn any relationship into a yes-yes one. If a person truly likes you, then there is potential to become yes-yes. I'm by no means an expert on this, and I'm still figuring it out, but I'll give you my take, and tell you a story of how I applied this as recently as last night. How you get a yes-yes relationship is quite sim…
/r/seduction26/09/12 06:26 PM
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No worries. Here's a little something for you: My current girlfriend of one year does this, even now, after one year. Today she said she wanted to hang out with her friends. I told her that it was okay, but that I really didn't feel like hanging with her friends too, and that I'd rather just chill at my apartment. She said she probably wouldn't come over, because it might be late (which is bullshit). She asked if I would just come over later, and I said I really just wanted to just keep it mello…
/r/seduction25/09/12 09:48 PM
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When it's on, you be on. When it's off, don't still be on. Turn yourself off to her and do something else. BTW, this is really fucking hard to do, and it never goes away, but declines in frequency as you start falling for each other. Basically, you have to let her know implicitly that you like her, and that you like hanging out with her. You have to also let her know that while you are down to be with her when she is, that you're not going to allow her on-off ways to mess with you having a good …
/r/seduction25/09/12 07:04 PM
1

No it doesn't. I believe the upvote button works, otherwise I wouldn't be on reddit and seddit. On amazon, the upvote button is stars. This book has no ratings, testimonials, or personal accounts of success.
/r/seduction25/09/12 06:45 PM
1

This is the stupidest thing I've read in a long time.
/r/seduction24/09/12 09:36 PM
1

Here's Lovedropp's video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEpr-MNOvfU
/r/seduction24/09/12 05:54 PM
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If it's a chemical imbalance, then it's a physical issue just like high blood pressure or cholesterol. There's nothing wrong about treating this in my opinion.
/r/seduction24/09/12 05:49 PM
1

You are trying to cross the Grand Canyon in one step when you've "seen a few attractive people before but...". Make it easy for yourself. Find the ugliest person you can and make a conversation with that person. Old people are particularly wonderful at making small talk with. Then when you get comfortable with this, move to the next level.
/r/seduction24/09/12 03:42 PM
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Semantics.
/r/seduction24/09/12 07:06 AM
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It's really simple. Get a newspaper or periodical, a good one, not something cheesy like USA Today. Read it front to back every day for one year. What I've found is that it's impossible to recall stuff from only reading something once. With a newspaper, they continue writing about particular stories for several days after the story breaks out. Secondly, reading the newspaper "forces" you to be exposed to things that you normally wouldn't google or wikipedia on your own. Reading on the internet o…
/r/seduction24/09/12 07:05 AM
0

Lovedrop has a great video on this. Find it.
/r/seduction24/09/12 06:59 AM
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You crave affection and it shows. Let me tell you something here, right now, that you should take to heart: Stop giving a fuck about other people and start giving a fuck about yourself. You're craving for affection is backwards, incorrect, and wrong. This is what little boys are made of, not men who get laid. Stop craving affection right now. Slap yourself a few times as hard as you can and tell yourself to stop. Everyone likes affection, but the difference between men and boys is that men don't…
/r/seduction24/09/12 06:57 AM
1

You're friend is not very nice for doing this, and you should ask yourself why you need him to be around whenever you socialize.
/r/seduction24/09/12 06:50 AM
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I was doing this on the street yesterday when my girlfriend was talking to her friends. I was taking the amuse-myself approach to having fun as was recommended by some people here a few days ago: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/107ihr/seddit_im_in_a_relationship_and_my_games_in_a_rut/ . She was taken aback at how easily I was opening groups of people. Later as we were holding hands and walking back home telling me that I was being silly, I said to her that you can always start a conve…
/r/seduction24/09/12 12:37 AM
2

This is cool. I have used an alternative approach: Save your really awesome shirts, shampoo, cologne, shoes, etc. when you are feeling particularly down. Your mind and your body are connected on a two-way street. You can do things physically to alter your mental state. Similarly a good attitude improves your physical posture/movement.
/r/seduction24/09/12 12:29 AM
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The problem with you is that you are making the whole thing about hitting on girls about starting a relationship with them and if they aren't into it you're going to worry about the ensuing awkwardness that will be present for at least a semester. You're blowing this whole thing out of proportion. Keep this attitude in your head and really believe it: "Hey, I think you're attractive and wanted to hang out. If we hit it off, cool, and if not, you seem like you'd make a nice friend." That means if…
/r/seduction23/09/12 01:32 AM
4

Any game is good for an LTR. Whatever works for you is what you should be doing. Some people say you should hit the gym in the morning, others say the afternoon, or whatever. Honestly, the correct answer is hit the gym at whatever time of day you can do it consistently and well.
/r/seduction23/09/12 01:26 AM
2

Well, it doesn't come right back. I know this, because I've taken breaks from sarging, and the longer the break, the longer it takes to get back into the game. Taking a year-long break from game means it'll take pretty long to get back into tip-top shape. Also, my gaminess is what made her attracted to me in the first place, and if I start becoming an AFC bitch boy, she will lose attraction, stop being happy, and eventually leave.
/r/seduction21/09/12 07:54 PM
1

I think the point about planning and organizing activities is something I need to do. I used to do this more often, but I have been leaning on my friends and her to have the activities to go to instead of seeking/planning them out myself. I'm really happy in my relationship, it's just that I'm still learning how to balance everything. Sarging is a cure-all, I'm convinced. I don't mean going out and trying to get girls' numbers and kiss, but just going out to meet people and converse with them.
/r/seduction21/09/12 07:52 PM
1

Why should I read your book? There is a lot of garbage out there.
/r/seduction21/09/12 07:48 PM
1

Honestly, I could care less if she goes out with her guy friends, but it might raise a couple red flags if she has a new guy she's starting to hang out with 1-on-1. An old buddy or a new group of friends that includes guys? Not a blip on my radar. I'm not sure if she'd feel the same way if the situation was reversed though. The reason I want to practice game is because I don't want to develop oneitis for my girl. AFCs get into relationships and hope to not mess up, because they think this is the…
/r/seduction21/09/12 07:47 PM
2

Seriously? How does that even cross your mind? Hahaha! You're awesome man. Thanks for the comments, I appreciate them. I just took a walk and said hi to three different people. No conversation though, and I had approach anxiety which stopped me from talking to a cute girl studying, but that's okay. I feel so much more alive right now than I have all week.
/r/seduction20/09/12 08:19 PM
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8:30-10:30? Solo sarge. Honestly, this is the easiest time of night to solo sarge, when bars aren't all crowded, and people appreciate actual conversation. Tell anyone who asks you why you're by yourself exactly what you wrote: you're girlfriends always tell you to meet two hours before they're actually ready, fucking girls. Tell your friends to ring you when they're out and where to meet them. You'll bring value to the new people you've met by inviting them to join you where you're friends are …
/r/seduction15/09/12 01:07 AM
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It's effective. Too much thinking and work in my opinion, but he is a testament to it working. Some people think it's too contrived/creepy.
/r/seduction15/09/12 12:56 AM
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If she's attracted to you, she'll be willing to wait. Every girl is different, but I'd say generally don't push it more than a month. I've also learned that once you've kissed a girl, you can pretty much keep the relationship at kiss-level for however long you want to wait, and the girl will give you a signal if it's taking too long. With timing issues, it's usually about the guy moving too fast rather than too slow.
/r/seduction15/09/12 12:55 AM
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Your biggest problem is your anger and frustration. You're acting like a little boy whining about wanting to be treated like a man. Guess what? You're never going to be a man if you keep this shit up. Your woman will leave you if you don't change yourself, guaranteed. When you go to a bar and hit on a girl, you don't explain to her why she should find you attractive. You are simply just attractive (or you're not). Girls at the bar and girls in relationships have one thing in common: they're all …
/r/seduction15/09/12 12:43 AM
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Don't smile to get approval/show approval. Smile when you're genuinely happy. Don't smile too quickly. Make the whole thing 2-3 times slower than you think it should be.
/r/seduction14/09/12 11:59 PM
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Awww, this is nice. Just invite her out to do something fun, just the two of you. Do this a few times and hopefully it goes where you want it to.
/r/seduction10/09/12 06:36 PM
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"Oh, that's nice. Thanks for letting me know." When she goes WTF at this response, tell her that it's nice for her to be honest and up front about this, that she's smart to know what you were after, and that her bf obviously means a lot to her if she brings him up so quickly. Tell her that you're just looking to meet new people, make new friends, and if it happens to happen, start hanging out with a cool girl. Then she'll talk a little, and then you tell her that you hope she has some cute cool …
/r/seduction10/09/12 06:34 PM
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I see social circle game and gaming in a bar as no different aside from the fact that bar game moves much quicker. You need to win her friend over, otherwise your interest will lose interest very quick. The way I see it, is that if you win over her friends, her friends will DHV you in your absence, which makes your life a LOT easier and makes your game much more effortless. Invite her and her roommate out to something and make it a point to win over her roommate, not the girl.
/r/seduction10/09/12 06:25 PM
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Call her, and don't expect anything. When I started out I would use phone numbers I collected as opportunities to practice my game on the phone. I never thought about trying to get with the girl at hand, although if it went well, that would be an added bonus.
/r/seduction10/09/12 06:20 PM
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I'm around 5'5 and while height definitely helps, it's not essential. What I've learned is that women are more likely to talk to you if you're shorter. That's all you need! If you're conversations skills are honed, you shouldn't have any problem gaming them. Guys who are bigger/taller have an advantage when doing kino openers. Also, it's a stereotype that super short girls want super tall guys. A lot of short girls want guys who are just a little taller than them, not up in the clouds.
/r/seduction10/09/12 06:17 PM
1

Honestly, I would have told her that she should just spend time with her brother when he's here and to give me a call when she didn't have other commitments.
/r/seduction10/09/12 06:13 PM
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I wrote about this: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/lui5z/getting_into_state_two_kinds_of_approaches/ .
/r/seduction28/08/12 07:13 PM
1

Ask her what she likes to do.
/r/seduction16/08/12 04:48 PM
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Back off, smile, and go back to what you were talking about. This builds a lot of comfort, her knowing that you won't do anything she's not comfortable with yet. It also comfort-building because it demonstrates to her that you don't think of her as a slut, since her physical denial doesn't mean you're necessarily going to drop her right away. Don't wait around too long though. Make sure she is comfortable with holding hands, hugging, and back rubbing before you try to kiss her. Also, I wouldn't …
/r/seduction16/08/12 04:28 PM
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I think your move was great, but you killed it in the end. You should have ignored her retort and asked her what the drink was, and how tasty it was in an innocent way. Then ask her if she could by you another. When she refuses, you could ask if you could hold her purse next time so that you could get some money out of it instead of alcohol. Then when she gets super upset, smile and tell her to calm down and come to the bar. Ask her what she wants, and buy it for her. The conflict and tension is…
/r/seduction16/08/12 04:20 PM
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No worries.
/r/seduction24/07/12 03:37 PM
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Thank you so much. I'm going to try option b) for the bitchy/snarky thing. So far I've been just ignoring, but that doesn't always work for me. She is sometimes so snarky that she doesn't stop until she finds a way to get me to react. From what I know about pickup, this is probably going to work. It's just the relationship-version of a shit test. One of the hard things about being in a relationship is that there is not much information on how to be good in a relationship. There is a tonne of adv…
/r/seduction24/07/12 03:36 PM
1

Your title is misleading. I was hoping for techniques you use in day game to help night game. This is just social proof that you could acquire any way, not necessarily through day game.
/r/seduction12/07/12 09:20 PM
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I was talking to my gf about times girls had hit on me overtly, and once I said a girl came up to me, looked me in the eyes and said I had nice hands, turned away and brushed her hair. She said, that it was strange/interesting that that was considered aggressive, since the most aggressive guys go much farther...literally walking up and grabbing asses.
/r/seduction12/07/12 09:16 PM
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Find more girls. It'll make waiting to hear from her less annoying, AND you might get another girl who texts/calls with a faster response time. No response? No worries. You have girls by the dozen.
/r/seduction12/07/12 09:12 PM
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Are you going out by yourself or with others? If you are going out with others, I HIGHLY suggest going out by yourself in a part of town where nobody will recognize you and nobody will remember you. This removes the penalty for "acting like an idiot". If your friends see you be an idiot, or you game in a place where your reputation is at stake, it will be much harder to practice game.
/r/seduction08/07/12 07:50 PM
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Creative arts, travel/new experiences, working out, career goals, having friends, doing something for the community, and having plans for the weekend. Be passionate.
/r/seduction05/07/12 10:05 PM
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Here is some relationship advice I've written: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/r381m/advice_from_an_experienced_natural_68_year_old/ http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/sgswc/followup_advice_from_a_68yearold_natural_whose/ http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/t3ipf/advice_from_a_40yearold_vietnameseamerican/ I'll write some more in the future.
/r/seduction05/07/12 01:49 AM
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Don't practice your game this way. Go out independently and sarge. Then, when you're better at game, try incorporating game into your work to increase your options, not practice.
/r/seduction05/07/12 01:47 AM
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Try it again. Do it sober five more times, and then see how you feel.
/r/seduction05/07/12 01:45 AM
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AKA Keyboard Jockeys.
/r/seduction05/07/12 01:44 AM
3

Say this: I'm doing really great. 30 seconds of material of what you plan on doing for the night then ask a question: What are you planning on getting into tonight? If she comments on what you're doing or answers your question with more than a one word response, she's interested in talking to you, not fucking you. Not yet, anyway. Keep it up and sprinkle a little sexual intent, humor, and kino, and you might get lucky. Otherwise wish her well and move on. It's amazing how refreshing simple, norm…
/r/seduction30/06/12 06:14 AM
3

Protip: Try not drinking anything but water, or maybe a tea/coffee to keep your attention up. Gaming drunk girls while sober is like playing dodgeball with 2nd graders.
/r/seduction30/06/12 06:10 AM
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Answer this question please.
/r/seduction30/06/12 05:54 AM
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You will. There are people of all levels here. Here is my first post: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/jpjiy/first_post_on_seddit_intro_and_my_field_report/ . You're man enough to admit you suck with women and want to fix this. Most guys aren't willing to swallow their pride and admit this, even though they should. Keep it up man.
/r/seduction27/06/12 06:29 PM
2

Got started about 6 years later than you. It doesn't take a long time to learn this stuff and have success. It takes a long time to become an expert, which I'm not yet.
/r/seduction27/06/12 06:08 AM
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Smiling; laughing at banter; touching hair; playing with the straw in the drink; copying body language/motions; touching wrist with the other hand; asking for a name; aking followup questions.
/r/seduction27/06/12 06:05 AM
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This comment sounds like something a typical redditor AFC would say. Seduction is simple, but not that simple.
/r/seduction20/06/12 01:47 AM
1

This is pretty badass. Haha. It would also clear a lot of the "how should I respond to this text?" posts on seddit.
/r/seduction16/06/12 02:05 AM
3

Physical fitness is one of the most important parts of game.
/r/seduction14/06/12 05:01 PM
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From my experience, I used to get annoyed when people mentioned they had a boyfriend. That's because I was trying to get something from the people I was gaming. Nowadays, I don't really care if someone has a boyfriend. If she's cute, odds are she has cute friends who are looking. Think bigger man. Make new friends. Meet more people. You even said that Summer was slow, so pick up the pace by firing up a new Summer social life. Plan some parties with your new friends, and tell them to invite their…
/r/seduction14/06/12 05:00 PM
1

Nice read. Thank you.
/r/seduction14/06/12 04:39 PM
1

Kino escalate when she is laughing/smiling preferably after some joke/story that you just told.
/r/seduction14/06/12 04:12 PM
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In one word: Practice. Practice this everyday, and you certainly won't regress. You might not improve if you go through the motions, but practice will maintain your level of game. I am regressing too, because I am in a LTR currently. I've stopped saying hi to people on the street. I've stopped flirting with random girls. I've stopped making new friends and casual chit chat. This Summer I've sworn to keep my edge up, even though I'm in an LTR. I'm not going to cheat, but I'm going to maintain my …
/r/seduction14/06/12 04:10 PM
1

Agree. I just create a username and subscribe to all the relevant subreddits related to seduction. No need to reinvent the wheel.
/r/seduction14/06/12 07:28 AM
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Just remember, being in a relationship doesn't change the fact that the girl you are with is a girl. She will do all the stupid shit that bar girls do albeit in a different context. Watch out for it and don't try to jump through her hoops. Take her hoops and throw them across the street if you want happiness. Be okay 100% if she walks away from you right now. If there is anything valuable between you two, this mentality will keep you together so much stronger than trying to rationalize your rela…
/r/seduction14/06/12 07:25 AM
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Honestly? Go make new friends and establish this from the get-go. It's harder to change your role with existing friends.
/r/seduction14/06/12 07:19 AM
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Here is one trick that works: Your mind influences your body and your body influences your mind. If you sense that you aren't as confident as you want to be, make your body influence your mind: Stand up straight, shoulders relaxed, eyes fixated on anything you look at, loosen your voice box, hands at the side, relax your facial muscles, keep a warm slight grin. This will help convince your mind that there's nothing to worry about. A related note: When you are confident as fuck, your body exudes …
/r/seduction14/06/12 07:16 AM
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Disagree. That seems gimmicky and a bit dark. Like, you're supposed to get her to hand you a skeleton out of her closet so that you now have her by the emotional hooks? That seems a bit antagonistic for a fun, loving, healthy relationship. My take is that you're supposed to be just the same way you were when you picked her up: A giver, outcome independence, and completely okay (non-needy) if she walks away. The only difference is that with a girlfriend, she's also you're friend. You do fun stuff…
/r/seduction12/06/12 10:16 PM
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Exactly. Unless you're trying to hide something. In that case, it's probably better to deactivate your Facebook account.
/r/seduction12/06/12 10:11 PM
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The past is the past. You are already becoming a man by admitting your mistakes and feeling bad about them. You only have done permanent damage to all your future relationships with women if you refuse to change yourself. There are a lot of forgiving women out there who will not judge you in the present moment for mistakes you've made in the past. Just don't fucking cheat on them.
/r/seduction12/06/12 10:09 PM
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Try an opener like this: Do you ever get shy when you want to try and meet new people? I really get shy. I'm worried that the new person might not like me, and that makes me a little nervous to go and meet people that look interesting. Like right now, you might be totally repulsed by me, and the thought of this and what it might do to my self-confidence scares me. But at the same time, I wanted to meet you and have to accept that I can't control how you react. I.E. Talk about approach anxiety as…
/r/seduction10/06/12 10:39 PM
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Haha, I like that.
/r/seduction06/06/12 03:38 PM
1

Well done. It's seduction in a relationship. There is no difference between a girl you're trying to pickup and a girl you're in a LTR with. They're both girls in either case, and react exactly the same way. I've learned that you can be emotional both in pickup and in a LTR. Like, you don't have to be super happy fun guy or even have to get into 'state' to pickup girls, as long as you don't let your emotions control yourself, you can pickup girls even if you've had a rotten day.
/r/seduction04/06/12 08:41 PM
1

It took me 20 field reports to go from super shyness to easy number closing. However, I do feel that I'm losing my edge due to being in a relationship for several months. I'm going to make light gaming and winging a priority this Summer (no cheating). Also, I want to work on cultivating new friendships.
/r/seduction04/06/12 07:35 AM
1

I'll tell you if you ask politely.
/r/seduction04/06/12 07:10 AM
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Congratulations. But she isn't the girl of your dreams. She's a girl you really like at the moment. She might walk out on you tomorrow, and you should be 100% okay with that; you won't chase her and fawn over her. Keep this attitude and she will go even crazier for you, and the dream will never end. Source: My own experience.
/r/seduction03/06/12 05:18 PM
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I am in love with my current girlfriend. You can game all you want verbally. Do not kino anything more than a hug and maybe a kiss on the cheek. It sounds like you've established that kissing other people is okay, so that's your line. You can get a license to game more if you wing for your guys and tell your girlfriend that you are out on a mission to find your buddies some girls. Hell, you can even invite her along if you like.
/r/seduction30/05/12 03:19 PM
1

If you are practicing, it might be a bad idea. Try sarging somewhere else, I'd say.
/r/seduction29/05/12 06:38 PM
1

That was ballsy. His body language at the end was a bit too dominating, and you could tell she was getting a little uncomfortable by not being able to think a little and spit out a time. There was also not a lot of fun/humor, but he got her number and closing is what matters in the end.
/r/seduction23/05/12 04:21 AM
1

He's going the way of Ross Jeffries.
/r/seduction22/05/12 11:15 PM
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Two things: 1) Stop masturbating and looking at porn. Starve yourself sexually for a little while, and you should be fine. 2) Get some viagra. It works even for young, virile men. Take it and slowly reduce the dose over time and you'll get over the psychological problems you're having.
/r/seduction22/05/12 11:12 PM
1

LOL
/r/seduction22/05/12 11:07 PM
1

I disagree. She might be looking to get out of an unhappy relationship. I'm against enabling cheating, but you can make it known that you're into her, and you're also not into her cheating on her boyfriend. She can either break up with her boyfriend and go for you or stay with her bf. Either way there is nothing ungentlemanly about the outcome. However, it's probably easier to find some single women.
/r/seduction20/05/12 11:03 PM
1

Naturals are men who are good with women and are generally unread and unaware of the seduction material that's out there.
/r/seduction20/05/12 10:58 PM
4

In some time you'll laugh about this. Your girlfriend was being super ridiculous, and you can tell all your friends about how your ex got a girl to reject you when you weren't even hitting on her. I know you're pissed, but your story cracked me up. It seems like your game is good enough to not let this bother you too much. I'd even dare you to use this story in future nights out, telling other girls how ridiculous your ex was.
/r/seduction20/05/12 09:03 PM
2

Day sarge on the quad.
/r/seduction20/05/12 08:24 PM
3

Imagine their name written across their foreheads when the tell you their names. It's much easier to remember faces than names. FDR used this trick. Also, repeat their names a few times during the initial conversation, making sure you've got it. It's okay to mess up a little, especially if there are multiple people you are meeting at once. Sometimes they give me shit for not getting it right, and then I'll flat out ask them if they remember my name. Often they can't, and I give their shit right …
/r/seduction20/05/12 07:33 PM
1

Yes. You can change your personality permanently if you spend enough time working on changing. This is awesome, because you can't change many other things in life, e.g. looks, height, etc.
/r/seduction18/05/12 08:22 PM
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I used to take women's advice about getting hit on. The would complain about how creepy a guy was or how they just wished guys would leave them alone so that they could enjoy their night. As a whiteknighty AFC I used to chime in and say, "Oh yeah, you girls have it really tough. I can't imagine what that's like. Guys can be so creepy sometimes." BULLSHIT. That is just girls being girls connecting with each other. Nowadays if I'm caught in such a situation, which I usually try to avoid, I just li…
/r/seduction18/05/12 08:18 PM
1

Be innocent and don't be ignorant. A simple "Oh cool, thanks for telling me." Then you can keep talking to her and her friends if you want some company for the night, and use them as social proof to open new sets. You can also just straight up ask her if she has any friends that are looking to date. You could just wish her a good night and be on your way. I take quick rejections as a good thing. The girl is nice enough to tell you so that you don't waste your time. That is thousands of times bet…
/r/seduction18/05/12 08:13 PM
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After college you have $$$ if you start working. You get to do a ton more things that will make college parties seem childish. People willingly choose to leave college and have careers for a reason: it's different, but better in a whole lot of ways.
/r/seduction18/05/12 08:09 PM
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For what it's worth, I'm here because I want to find a nice girl to be my girlfriend, eventually marry, and have children with. I just want the skills to attract women so I can find a good one and keep her happy.
/r/seduction15/05/12 03:59 PM
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No. This is exactly how to NOT handle rejection, at least, if you care about getting laid anyway.
/r/seduction15/05/12 03:46 PM
1

Leaving for good or is she coming back?
/r/seduction15/05/12 03:43 PM
1

Boring interview questions: How do you know each other. Are you from here or visiting? Are you in school or working? What are your plans for the rest of the night? I also just spew info about what I'm getting into and how I like to keep myself busy. If they're interested, they'll ask a question. If not, I just wish them well and move on, maybe coming back to them again later in the night and trying again.
/r/seduction15/05/12 03:42 PM
1

I have started from scratch several times. The first time was nerve-wracking. Now, I almost crave it. It's exhilarating. Here is some advice: Get involved in three regular activities: something artistic, something physical, and something for the community. Make an effort to meet the people in these activities. They don't all have to be your friend, but you'll start to feel at home if you make a few environments your personal spaces where people know your name. Sarge at bars alone. This is one of…
/r/seduction06/05/12 01:07 AM
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I would be skeptical of this from just reading it, BUT it seems like you and many others have had success with this one. AWESOME!
/r/seduction04/05/12 06:31 AM
1

Well I've been with him at the bars, and he is intense and energetic, but not frenetic, if that makes any sense.
/r/seduction03/05/12 09:59 PM
1

Haha! In my opinion, sleep is the first thing you need, before eating and exercising.
/r/seduction03/05/12 09:59 PM
2

Sarging.
/r/seduction03/05/12 09:58 PM
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I still don't agree with you, but that's okay. Thank you for the comments.
/r/seduction03/05/12 09:57 PM
1

No, he's not always right. I disagree with him this time.
/r/seduction03/05/12 09:56 PM
4

Yes. I wish this stuff was stressed more in pickup. I just recently learned about it.
/r/seduction02/05/12 09:44 PM
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I don't think you're correct. Being high frequency all the time is annoying, draining, and unattractive. It comes in the form of the one-upper, the guy who has a nervous tick, the guy who constantly smiles, the guy who is a slave to his emotions, the guy who won't shut up and listen, the guy who doesn't pay attention to how others are perceiving him, etc.
/r/seduction02/05/12 09:43 PM
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I'm glad you enjoyed the post. Here is a followup from the same man: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/sgswc/followup_advice_from_a_68yearold_natural_whose/ There is a lot of good advice on how to pickup women. There isn't much good advice on how to maintain a sexy long-term-relationship or marriage. This guy is one of the few sources of this advice.
/r/seduction02/05/12 04:36 PM
1

Dude, thank you for writing out the dialogue. This is beautiful stuff. Thank you!
/r/seduction01/05/12 10:24 PM
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In any "staring contest" between guys and girls who are strangers, the guy will almost always win. This is how it is. If she glances back after breaking, that's a definite IOI. If she smiles, that's either an IOI or just shyness.
/r/seduction01/05/12 10:18 PM
1

She sounds like a decent person if she apologized, but she's not super into you. Keep her on the back burner while you go out and get more girls' phone numbers, and don't lose hope on this one, but be realistic.
/r/seduction01/05/12 09:52 PM
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Awesome man. For me, one thing about going out aren't just the women you meet, but good guy friends you can make in the field. I've met a couple of good naturals this way who have helped me improve immeasurably.
/r/seduction01/05/12 05:34 PM
5

Leave your guitar out on the couch. Go sit on the couch at some point and pick up the guitar and play some random chords softly while talking. She'll ask you about guitar-playing if she's into you. Then you go.
/r/seduction29/04/12 10:27 PM
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Let me clarify my point: They could have used the words submissive, compromising, or gentle instead of "nice". They could have also used the words spendthrift, squandering, or wasteful instead of "generous". Realizing that many mainstream outlets quite readily paint women in a good light and men in a bad one is part of the reason why I got into pickup. I'll call bullshit when I see it to remind myself that the mainstream, from romantic comedies to Dr. Phil, to feminism, and the popular press oft…
/r/seduction29/04/12 09:44 PM
1

There are a few points that this article doesn't capture well: Women are choosing this option, and it's not as much of a surprise as the article would like you to think. High quality women will only have babies with high quality men or just not have babies. The number of high quality women is going up while the number of high quality men is going down. Men have and always will like younger girls over older girls. Youth is attractive to men. Women get uglier as they age, and men get more attracti…
/r/seduction29/04/12 07:20 PM
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and why women tend to be nicer and more generous than men This phrase is a load of crap.
/r/seduction29/04/12 06:34 PM
1

1) It never ends. You can always keep finding issues to improve, which is why it is important to understand your accomplishments are not you. This is probably the most important thing to realize, not just for pickup, but for life. It's easy to say to yourself, "Look at all the stuff I've done," and stop. But the reality is there is a whole lot more that you could do to further improve.
/r/seduction25/04/12 10:54 PM
2

The most common way is humor and teasing her. As we're making out she'll say something like, "Oh I've been wanting to hook up with you all day." And I'll say something like, "What makes you think we're hooking up?" Smile, and then I go and kiss her even more (and hook up). I'll say, keep Saturday afternoon free. She'll ask why. And I'll tell her it's a surprise, and she's going to love it. I don't set expectations with her unless we've made explicit plans. If she's out with her friends and I don…
/r/seduction25/04/12 06:39 PM
3

Talk to them about it at a time when you're not out or even getting ready to go out. Tell them about some of your funny success stories at the bar, and tell them you'd like to do this together sometime. I'm trying to get on of my best friends to see the light, but you can't change anyone that doesn't want to change. Another one of my friends saw me gaming one night, and flat out asked me to help him, and you can't say no to such a humble request from a friend.
/r/seduction25/04/12 06:05 PM
2

I've realized that you don't need social proof. You just need to give anyone you interact with the feeling that you have social proof. You can be totally alone at a bar and exude social proof by demonstrating you don't need their validation to be 100% happy and having a good time.
/r/seduction25/04/12 06:18 AM
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You know the sexual escalation that you are able to build quickly to hook up? Stretch that over a longer period of time, maybe a few weeks or even a couple months, and let it develop alongside a new friendship. Girlfriend means friend+sex. Be honest, determine if she has some similar interests/background, and see if watch for how well your personalities vibe. I think a lot of relationships fail, because sex was introduced too soon and there isn't any friendship. I also know a lot of relationship…
/r/seduction23/04/12 10:05 PM
4

Call her at least for practice with talking to girls, if nothing more.
/r/seduction23/04/12 06:24 AM
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I once got a phone number for telling a girl thank you when she told me she had a boyfriend. She was shocked, and thought I was joking because apparently most other guys she told this to would get angry/upset/annoyed. I told her I wasn't there to ruin a good thing, and asked if she had any cool single friends with her. After a bit, one of her friends came to us and, she introduced me and DHVed me a couple times. Pretty awesome. Her friend never called me back though. Ahh well!
/r/seduction23/04/12 06:21 AM
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Your problem is you're waiting for an "organic" situation. Fuck that. You will piss away your life waiting for life to come to you. Learn to make pickup "organic", and it won't seem like you're doing anything out of the ordinary. So here's my advice to you. You found two cool girls? That's great. Leave them alone for a little while and work on yourself. The whole point of sarging by yourself in a part of town where you won't know anybody is to minimize the pain and embarrassment of getting rejec…
/r/seduction22/04/12 11:30 PM
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I'm going to go against the flow and say this is a bad idea. Firstly, many people have already made PUA apps, but maybe not for seddit itself, but none, as far as I know, have gotten any traction. Secondly, having a pickup app on your phone is a little creepy. Thirdly, if you're learning pickup, the best way is to focus on improving one thing at a time, such as eye contact, body language, dress, opening, kino, humor, storytelling, sexual communication, getting a phone number, getting a kiss, etc…
/r/seduction22/04/12 11:17 PM
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Easy: Preselection.
/r/seduction20/04/12 06:31 PM
2

It's good to see the light, right? Even though breakups suck, what's even worse is not knowing why it didn't work out.
/r/seduction20/04/12 04:05 PM
2

You're welcome man.
/r/seduction20/04/12 04:03 PM
1

It's amazing, right?
/r/seduction19/04/12 10:34 PM
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Ahh cool! I think it differs slightly from Buddhism though, in that I allow my desires and emotion to influence my behavior over what I want. I just try not to lose my self-control to desires and emotions, if that makes any sense.
/r/seduction19/04/12 10:33 PM
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No, actually my friend told me to NOT tell my girlfriend about most of the stuff he was telling me. Other women might be able to understand it, but he said the woman you are with might get confused and hurt by it all. I can see why. Telling a woman that she is yes-no, but could become yes-yes, can hurt. The girl is already sleeping with you and is emotionally invested, probably thinking about the future, etc. Saying that you want to take this yes-no relationship to a yes-yes might even piss her …
/r/seduction19/04/12 05:59 PM
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Haha
/r/seduction19/04/12 05:44 PM
2

So, he married her when he was poor. In fact there was a time in his life when he was virtually bankrupt. He built his wealth by himself; he didn't inherit it. Anyway, if you know anything about attraction and pickup, girls might settle for a rich, attractive guy, but long-term attraction isn't based on what makes you great, but what makes you a man. That's why bad boys who have rotten personalities, living in vans who are super poor can still get girls, and even get girls to be their sugarmoms.
/r/seduction19/04/12 05:32 PM
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Why are you so upset? I don't really get bothered by trolls who don't follow reddiquette. Regarding my friend, I don't think you read the original post: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/r381m/advice_from_an_experienced_natural_68_year_old/ . The man spent a couple decades with tonnes of women. He's only married once, and never been divorced.
/r/seduction19/04/12 05:29 PM
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Okay, but even going by the facts, you're only going off of the few facts I've told you. I know more facts than you, and the things I've listed are a small minority of experiences I've had. She doesn't constantly bitch to me. I brought up these points firstly to document them for myself, and secondly to give guys advice on a good course of action when a relationship has a hiccup. I know the friends she was hanging out with, and I've never lied to her about anything. I'm fairly certain she doesn'…
/r/seduction19/04/12 05:27 PM
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Almost everyday. I don't think she was feeling guilty. I think she was missing me.
/r/seduction19/04/12 05:07 PM
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No. I'm building a yes-yes relationship. I would be a pushover if she went out and I was waiting on her to come home. In fact, I was asleep when she called, asking to come over. In other words, if she's not on with me, I'm not going to be on with her, but other guys will still be on when the girl is off, like a lap dog.
/r/seduction19/04/12 05:05 PM
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That's awesome. Could you explain this further? How did you guys meet? How do you deal with fights and disagreements and other womanly "irrationality"? How did you build a yes-yes relationship?
/r/seduction19/04/12 04:25 PM
1

Thanks man.
/r/seduction19/04/12 03:49 PM
1

Thanks man.
/r/seduction19/04/12 03:37 PM
1

Thanks man. The guy is amazing.
/r/seduction19/04/12 03:37 PM
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It's from one guy who is 68 years old. Take it or leave it, but just as taking advice from Tyler, who has experience to show for what he teaches, this average-looking man has a 30-year old marriage with a super hot wife who still gets the shivers from him. I used to think that it was inevitable that marriages cooled off over time, but it's just that most people don't know how to be a man and keep their women happy till the day they die.
/r/seduction19/04/12 03:35 PM
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He not only knows what he's talking about. He also has a lot to show for it. He got married late in life after spending a couple decades figuring life out, and has never been divorced, happy with a family, kids, and a ton of money. If you look at him, he seems pretty average. He just knows the easier way to success, which often goes against instinct.
/r/seduction19/04/12 03:33 PM
1

I have a feeling the women over there wouldn't understand.
/r/seduction19/04/12 03:31 PM
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Well, the key is to understand that you start any relationship as a yes-no relationship. You have to show the woman that you are capable of being yes-yes, and also that you are seeking a yes-yes woman. Surprisingly, a good number of women really do want to be yes-yes with a yes-yes man, and a lot of men want the same as well. Unfortunately, not many people know how to be yes-yes, especially guys these days. Show her that you like her, but are in control of your emotions and desires. Go one night…
/r/seduction19/04/12 03:31 PM
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That's right. All my yes-no relationships have all died after I move away or we lose a common activity/interest. All my yes-yes relationships stand the test of time, even if I haven't spoken to the person in over a year.
/r/seduction19/04/12 03:24 PM
2

Thanks man.
/r/seduction19/04/12 03:23 PM
1

I agree.
/r/seduction19/04/12 03:22 PM
1

Thank you man. I'm glad I could help. Trust me, it works, at least in my experience.
/r/seduction19/04/12 03:22 PM
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Yeap. I was completely lost when it came to picking up girls on the street and turned to seddit. I improved. Then when I found a girl I could potentially love, nobody could give me advice. People on seddit didn't have much experience or simply didn't know. People at relationship_advice gave shitty advice. And all my friends told me to do exactly the opposite of what this 68-year-old man told me to do. So far, his advice has worked, and following my friends' advice is what caused the relationship…
/r/seduction19/04/12 03:21 PM
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You don't have to understand women. A lot of what this guy has told me he NEVER tells his wife. Because she probably wouldn't understand it all either, coming from a guy's perspective. He's just telling me what to do and what works. Just like approaching straight on is threatening as opposed to approaching from the side. You don't need to know why it's threatening, just that approaching from the side will give you better results.
/r/seduction19/04/12 03:13 PM
1

You got it.
/r/seduction19/04/12 03:10 PM
1

The thing is, if you continue to act this way, she will begin to see you as a man, and not a boy. Personally, over the past month of following my 68-year-old friend's advice, she has gotten less childish. She is starting to see that I'm not one of those boys who will give a damn if she tries to play games with me. She'll respect me more, and eventually commit to the stability and security that I'm showing her I can provide. In this month she has told me that I'm better than her friends, that she…
/r/seduction19/04/12 03:07 PM
2

I think it's good to establish independence in a relationship, to a point. She should respect your wish to go out with the guys, and that it's not because you don't want to hang out with her, but that you want to hang out with your friends. It's probably easier to establish this early on in the relationship rather than later. At some point, if she's down to be yes-yes, you'll fall for each other and realize that there is nothing that will stop the love between each of you, as long as you just le…
/r/seduction19/04/12 03:04 PM
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Thanks man.
/r/seduction19/04/12 02:55 PM
2

Case and point: my girl wanted to hang out with her friends a couple nights ago, and asked if it was okay. I told her to go and have fun. She said she'd call me later. She calls and comes over after a couple hours and initiates sex. Awesome.
/r/seduction19/04/12 02:55 PM
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Yes, I will. I think I've gotten a good chunk of what he's learned, but he has story upon story of how his way of thinking has gotten things to work out in life. Not just with women, but with business, friends, and other people.
/r/seduction19/04/12 02:53 PM
2

I think you are right, and from what I've written, it may sound like my girl is perpetually bitchy. But she usually apologizes for things she's not even responsible for doing wrong. She's overall a fairly easy-going girl and 95% of our interactions are stress-free, fun, flirty, and sexy.
/r/seduction19/04/12 02:52 PM
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I wouldn't call it confidence. I would call it quality. Low quality girls see the world for its things, but high quality girls want a life full of love, friendship, and awesome experiences. Not every high quality girl has high self-confidence. It could be a series of failures or experiences that make them sensitive to certain things. You can help her in this respect, if you have the patience and believe that she's worthy for you. But it might be easier to go for a girl that has all her shit toge…
/r/seduction19/04/12 02:48 PM
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I'm a regular around here. You can see my first post on seddit, many field reports, and my personal transformation over the past several months. I'm not an expert or even a pickup artist. Most likely, I am an rAFC. Most pickup advice is on everything from inner game to approaching to getting laid. There isn't much advice out there on building a relationship with a woman aside from the romantic comedy, Dr. Phill, AFC stuff.
/r/seduction19/04/12 05:01 AM
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I think you're on the right track. Regarding the last paragraph about her realizing what she did. I don't think that's the right way of thinking about it. Just let her go out, be happy that she's having a good time, and even encourage her to spend more time going out with her friends. If she had a good night, tell her that you're happy she had a good night. You should also be able to have a good night without her, even if that means sitting at home alone reading a book. If she keeps wanting to g…
/r/seduction19/04/12 04:36 AM
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I like that. Every moment with the person you love is an unexpected gift. When you start expecting things, you set yourself up for disappointment.
/r/seduction19/04/12 04:20 AM
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Haha. It's just advice from an old guy. That's what he told me anyway. It's not some proven method or philosophy. It's just what his experience has been. Somehow though, his way of thinking explains a lot very concisely.
/r/seduction19/04/12 04:20 AM
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Thanks man. Things are definitely different, at least with myself. I can't force her to change in any way, but I can change myself.
/r/seduction19/04/12 04:18 AM
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It may not be the best, but I also do realize that most of seddit is about everything from inner game to approaching to getting laid. All of this is really good advice, and from many many times in the field, I know it works. However, there isn't much advice for what to do after this if you want something more than this with a girl, or cherish as Tim from RSD calls it.
/r/seduction19/04/12 04:12 AM
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This is how I've applied what I've learned from this man for the better. I realize that getting back with an ex is futile unless something fundamentally changes. I am fundamentally changing myself in the hopes that round 2 will work out better. So far, it seems to be working. Getting her back: After breaking up, I decided to ignore her for two straight weeks. She periodically sent me Facebook messages starting with mundane, "Hi how are you doing?" to "I think I've made the biggest mistake of my …
/r/seduction18/04/12 10:50 PM
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You can disagree without getting into an argument. Honestly, it's not worth getting into a discussion about silly small things like the Titanic in 3D. Also, don't open doors for arguments over religion or politics.
/r/seduction18/04/12 02:49 AM
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One of my favorite lines is, "Hey, I kind of like your friend!". You can followup with, "I hope that's okay with you.". If you've won them over they will help you out, especially her girlfriends. It can be good to say this loud enough so that the girl hears it as well.
/r/seduction31/03/12 12:07 AM
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Approach the group, not the girl. Win over everyone. Isolate. Close. The bigger the group, the easier this is. The hardest groups are two and three sets.
/r/seduction31/03/12 12:02 AM
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It's not purposeful, but subconscious. It's in the same vein as a shit test, but at the relationship-level.
/r/seduction30/03/12 06:30 AM
2

I did not say that.
/r/seduction28/03/12 07:26 AM
0

Mystery Method: How to Get Beautiful Women into Bed.
/r/seduction28/03/12 03:39 AM
1

Imagine your eyes are connected together with taffy. You can wiggle and stretch, but you can't disconnect.
/r/seduction28/03/12 03:38 AM
1

Everything.
/r/seduction28/03/12 03:37 AM
1

Yes you can. Oneitis (usually) doesn't last a lifetime.
/r/seduction28/03/12 03:37 AM
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I believe this is correct for people who have some experience. However, when you're starting out, it's helpful to project onto yourself a delusional sense of invincibility, i.e. state. It's not necessary, but it helps AFCs realize that it's really not that scary to get a blowout.
/r/seduction28/03/12 03:04 AM
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Confidence tells a person that there's something about you that you know that they don't that makes you awesome, and it piques their interest, gets them to try and dig deeper to figure out what it is. Awesome line there. I've found that leading an interesting life and not telling people all about it does wonders for my confidence.
/r/seduction27/03/12 05:22 PM
1

I tell people what I'm doing that night, and if they're interested, they'll say something or ask a question. Otherwise I'll ask them what they're up to during the night.
/r/seduction26/03/12 09:37 AM
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I used to lie and say I was waiting for my friends. Now I usually tell the truth: I wanted to drink tonight, none of my friends were free/wanted, and drinking alone at home is pathetic, so I decided to hit the bars and make some new ones. It's not a DLV if you don't care what they say. Usually, they are surprised by the honesty and want to keep talking. Sometimes I'll go to a place with live music or some other distraction, and use that as the reason why I'm out.
/r/seduction26/03/12 09:22 AM
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Make it fun, and make her laugh. Some light sexual hints are okay, but not necessary in my opinion. Have 2-3 times available in your schedule with 2-3 options in mind. Tell her what you're thinking, and if she can't do one of the times, she should counteroffer in some way or another. Otherwise, she's just not feeling it.
/r/seduction26/03/12 09:19 AM
2

You need to have extra-curricular activities throughout your entire life, not just in school. I recommend getting involved in 3 regular activities: something physical, something artistic, and something for the community.
/r/seduction26/03/12 09:14 AM
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TLDR: You have oneitis. You managed to hide it and invite her out in a fun friendly way. Her hanging out with you for 2-3 hours alone means she's interested. You sound much better than her bf who she's probably trying to get over or break up with. No kino means you are friendzoning yourself. Flirt harder next time or ignore her until she starts wondering why you're not contacting her. She does know you had a crush on her and this will get her juices flowing in the right way. It'll also give her …
/r/seduction26/03/12 08:41 AM
2

It's okay to be picky. That's an admirable trait, but you sound like a glass half empty kind of person. Something else might be keeping you fully happy and content with life besides girls.
/r/seduction26/03/12 08:32 AM
1

I "blow off" a bunch. However, I call and try to setup dates with almost every girl I meet, just for practice.
/r/seduction22/03/12 09:01 PM
5

You are going to win at life.
/r/seduction22/03/12 06:04 PM
2

You girls put on makeup and fancy clothes to present yourself in the best light when out on the town. Guys learn pickup to present themselves in the best light when out on the town. I don't see any difference between learning pickup and learning how to apply makeup.
/r/seduction22/03/12 06:15 AM
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It's fun to talk about girls.
/r/seduction22/03/12 05:25 AM
2

I actually don't discriminate. I think I'm rare. I like all of them, as long as they're not too thick or too skinny, and have a nice face. I'm short, so I don't like girls being super tall. I look more for an easy, soft personality. I get annoyed with opinionated girls.
/r/seduction22/03/12 05:24 AM
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Personally, I usually feign ignorance and pretend they're trying to be my friend. I'd say something, "Oh, cool!" with a slight innocent smile and just keep doing what I was doing and act completely like I'm completely absorbed in my own world. Usually they just get confused and figure I'm not a threat at that point. Honestly, what is with some people though. Why do they have to ruin other people's days like this?
/r/seduction22/03/12 05:19 AM
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Wow, this is so smooth man. No pickup lines, and gimmicky conversation. Well done. I've found that there is a big difference between number closing after 5 minutes vs. 10-20 minutes...less flaking. It sounds like she was into you, but keep it up and get more and more numbers.
/r/seduction21/03/12 08:39 PM
1

"I know," said in a funny way.
/r/seduction21/03/12 07:41 AM
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Here's a list: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/lui5z/getting_into_state_two_kinds_of_approaches/
/r/seduction21/03/12 07:29 AM
1

You can control your emotions if you can control your reaction to your thoughts. Could you recommend anywhere to start learning this cognitive behavioral therapy?
/r/seduction21/03/12 01:26 AM
4

That you need to have your life in order to get women.
/r/seduction20/03/12 07:01 PM
1

Placing this link here, which is related. It's difficult to understand, which means it's either crap or very advanced material: http://www.sosuave.com/halloffame/hall300.htm
/r/seduction20/03/12 04:42 PM
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Ahh, I see. I think you need to work on two things: sexual intent and a willingness to walk away. It won't be hard, because you are already self-aware, and want to improve which is awesome. Nice guys always welcome people, want to be nice to them, and everyone to be nice to them. It's good to be a giver to everyone people, but good guys are choosers and have a backbone. I believe tofutofu is going to write a piece on how to have more sexual intent today. As far as walking away, one thing I did t…
/r/seduction20/03/12 04:18 PM
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Ahhh, I see. You don't want to be pegged as the nice guy? Is this it?
/r/seduction20/03/12 03:38 PM
0

Stop being a boy, and be a man: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/r381m/advice_from_an_experienced_natural_68_year_old/ . You have the right to be a boy and be offended about it. You could also deal with it differently, just say, "Hmmm. Thanks, but I can't help your friend right now. I was actually wondering who she was here with, because I want to go find my friends right now." Don't be angry when you say it, just say it.
/r/seduction20/03/12 02:32 PM
1

Please do write this.
/r/seduction20/03/12 02:27 PM
2

What is meditation exactly? I've tried to meditate by seeing how long I could not think of anything. That's the only meditation I've tried before. What type of meditation are you talking about? What do you do when you meditate?
/r/seduction20/03/12 02:16 PM
2

Honestly, it doesn't matter what kind that much. Just imagine the kind of smile you'd have if you heard something funny. Girls' happiness = sexiness to a guys' mind.
/r/seduction20/03/12 05:32 AM
2

Alcohol is a depressant. It also kills your testosterone. Be smart with it.
/r/seduction20/03/12 05:27 AM
5

Seddit, how do I make myself look more attractive and approachable? Smile. eye contact, and laughter. Mascara is awesome.
/r/seduction20/03/12 05:25 AM
1

Well done! Keep it up!
/r/seduction20/03/12 05:14 AM
1

I think that's part of it. But I'm young, and I don't want to wait around and let life beat me up a bit before I'm ready for a relationship. I want to live all the nasty hypothetical situations in my head, know that I'll be okay either way, and be in control of my emotions no matter what.
/r/seduction20/03/12 03:35 AM
1

You know, progressive people will say that the modern man should wear his emotions on his sleeves. WRONG. This is the reason why many women are unhappy and the ones who are relationship-minded choose to be single. They'd rather be single than in a relationship with a man who doesn't give them the emotional stability they need. It freaks a relationship-woman out when her man does not have this emotional stability.
/r/seduction20/03/12 03:32 AM
1

Thanks, that is a good way of saying it.
/r/seduction20/03/12 03:30 AM
1

Yes, you're right. He said he had a good dad, but his dad was useless when it came to stuff like this.
/r/seduction20/03/12 03:29 AM
0

This kind of thinking is not really correct. If you want to be a man, you shouldn't let your emotions flow, uncontrolled. You need to be in control of your emotions, and definitely have them, but never express them to the point where you are losing control. As some mentioned, just expressing your negative emotions without physically doing it might be just enough.
/r/seduction20/03/12 02:08 AM
1

Thanks man.
/r/seduction20/03/12 02:03 AM
1

Thanks man. It's awesome stuff really, and I know it's true. When he said it, everything just clicked all of a sudden.
/r/seduction20/03/12 02:03 AM
1

This is precisely what he means, acting as opposed to reacting.
/r/seduction20/03/12 02:02 AM
1

I knew this going into the relationship, and I did notice I started to try and use my other awesome attributes to make up for me reacting to her in an AFC way. I wasn't an AFC going in, which is why she kept telling me stuff like: "OMG, why do I like you so much?". I have to remember what I did right and make sure I can be more in control. It's so easy to fall into AFC mode when there is sex and companionship involved. I want to kill the option of going into AFC mode.
/r/seduction19/03/12 11:49 PM
1

I know. Even my AFC heart-throbs are gone; I'm facebook friends with them, they're in happy relationships and I'm happy for them. This is the most intense relationship I've been in though. It's probably because I never practiced game until about 7 months ago. My 68-year old friend said you might be surprised if you let go of her and she comes knocking back thinking she made a mistake. He told me that I might get her back, but what I needed right now was to work on myself.
/r/seduction19/03/12 11:46 PM
1

You are so right. Possessing the willingness to walk away and demonstrating it is easy when approaching a set of girls. It's super hard in a relationship, especially as it gets longer and more intense. I've more or less learned the basics of attracting and getting dates. I could learn more. I should learn more, but this is a fundamental problem I have, and I need to fix it.
/r/seduction19/03/12 11:35 PM
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I was raised pretty much entirely by women. My mom, babysitters, friends' moms, etc. I never knew how to be a man, and learning to control your emotions, instead of just "being your true self" (my words), is part of becoming a man. Not that you should be truthful, but you should be able to wrestle them into submission. My friends, even the older ones, all act like boys...some more than others. But they all act on emotion when they're upset instead of acting on what they really want. I think moms…
/r/seduction19/03/12 11:32 PM
1

I was thinking a little bit more today, and it's just that you have to be unreactive. That you either agree or don't agree, and just let her do her emotional thing, calling her out in a non-AFC way if she said she was going to do something and then didn't.
/r/seduction19/03/12 10:45 PM
1

This was one of the most uplifting comments. Thank you so much!
/r/seduction19/03/12 10:42 PM
4

Can you explain further on how your ex put his foot down in a way that made you be attracted to him or respect him? Maybe an example or two?
/r/seduction19/03/12 08:58 PM
2

I think if the man stays the calmest, you both win. It's the man's job to be the calm stable one, full of passion, but never out of control.
/r/seduction19/03/12 08:56 PM
1

He's an artist. I met him while playing my sax at a indie rock concert a month ago. As someone mentioned to me, he's not exactly a natural. He's someone who went through the pain and suffering of getting to know how women operate and what they want. He's made a lot of mistakes, and I want to learn as much as I can from his mistakes instead of making them myself. Honestly, I saved myself a lot of pain by reading a lot on seduction and pickup, asking for advice here, and watching a ton of videos o…
/r/seduction19/03/12 08:54 PM
2

I'm looking into some buddhist centers in my city to see what they might have for me in terms of controlling my emotions. I know the buddhists have been doing this for centuries, and I want to learn how. Some people my age tell me that it's just who I am, and I think that's garbage. They don't know anything in terms of accomplishing a happy married life. What they really mean is that it's very hard to change who you are...just like losing weight and getting in shape takes time, other things take…
/r/seduction19/03/12 08:50 PM
1

Thanks, and yes, I know. The quote on love is similar to what David DeAngelo says: Attraction isn't a choice. If someone isn't attracted to you, you can't do anything to make them attracted to you. If you're attracted to someone, it's not because you decided to be attracted to that person.
/r/seduction19/03/12 08:46 PM
2

Thanks for the reply. It was good to read your post. I really really don't want to make the same mistake again. It's painful. Approaching a woman and getting rejected is painful, but I can change how a approach. In the same way, I can change how I deal with emotions. If I don't fix this, I know I'm going to make the same mistake again and feel bad again.
/r/seduction19/03/12 07:50 PM
0

Most of the best pickup artists don't nearly have the same number of years this guy has. He's literally seen it all, still loving life and his wife. He said that raising a family is not easy, and if you can't be stable and in control of your emotions right now, that you should just forget about even thinking about having a family.
/r/seduction19/03/12 06:55 PM
1

Yes, thank you!
/r/seduction19/03/12 06:53 PM
0

It's also "depressing" that women don't come up to you and ask you for your phone number. It's also depressing that women give you shit tests or have bitch shields. I'm convinced that all these things is what keeps us alive, reproducing, and evolving.
/r/seduction19/03/12 06:08 PM
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Because just like men are searching for attractive women, women are searching for attractive men. In the same way that a hot girl turns our heads no matter how much we love a person, a woman will constantly continue to make sure her man is still a man no matter how much she loves him. We have approach anxiety in order to stay alive (i.e. don't walk up to a bunch of strangers because they or their men might kill you). However, if you want to reproduce, you need to get over it and approach. The sa…
/r/seduction19/03/12 05:18 PM
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You didn't read what I wrote. This guy didn't marry his current woman until he was 38. He used to go to bars by himself and hit on girls. He's been in dozens long-term relationships and had his heart broken many many times for 20 years prior to his marriage. His first and only marriage was at 38, after he said he learned everything, and it's still blazing hot. I don't know many people like this, and he has accomplished what he wanted in life through perseverance. This post isn't related to pseud…
/r/seduction19/03/12 05:13 PM
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If I wanted advice on law, I go to a lawyer. If wanted advice on how to fix my car, I go to a mechanic. If I want advice on anything, I talk to the people who have already accomplished it. Here is a man who has accomplished what I want, and he is willing to give his advice. I don't need to read anything or talk to other people who haven't accomplished what he has. I don't want to do things the hard way; I want to do things the smart way.
/r/seduction19/03/12 04:46 PM
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Thank you. He mentioned some stuff about human mood. I need to ask him what he read, because I haven't been able to find what he was talking about.
/r/seduction19/03/12 04:44 PM
1

Thanks. The thing he was talking about though was the initial reaction. The knee-jerk response for when something unexpected happens. I have to train myself to no knee-jerk, basically. To stay calm and collected and just say, and be true to myself, not in an asshole over-confident way, not in an enthusiastic way, but in a non-reactive outcome-independent way that has love in the background.
/r/seduction19/03/12 04:43 PM
1

I'd be more inclined to believe you if you also had a sexy marriage that was 28 years old.
/r/seduction19/03/12 04:40 PM
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No. When a boy or AFC meets a beautiful woman his brain gets scrambled. A real man doesn't need a woman, and her presence is lovely, but his willingness to let go and not lose control of his state of mind because of her and any strife she might be causing is what reminds her of her attraction for you.
/r/seduction19/03/12 04:37 PM
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You are so right. I didn't know that I needed to have this quality as a man. I just didn't know. I just didn't know. I feel like an ignorant little boy, but I never had anyone teach me how to be a man. No real men in my life growing up, and only recently have I begun a process of transforming myself and improving my game to accomplish what I want in life.
/r/seduction19/03/12 04:35 PM
1

I told him, it's like dropping a ball and watching it float up. It's the most bizarre thing, but everything he said wasn't some general wishy-washy stuff. It was very detailed and correct. It might not be everything, but for me, it's exactly the next step I need in improving myself. This is my first field report: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/jpjiy/first_post_on_seddit_intro_and_my_field_report/ . Just the other day I went into a bar, solo and sober, saw a girl, walked up and talked…
/r/seduction19/03/12 04:31 PM
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That's not what he said. He said that it's okay to show you are emotional, but never to show that you aren't in control of your emotions. Having passions is a great thing, but just like alcohol, you shouldn't indulge in them to the point where you lose control, not if you want to be a man anyway.
/r/seduction19/03/12 04:25 PM
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I thought wearing my emotions on my sleeves was a good thing. As much as I got blindsided by my ex-girlfriend, hearing the advice that wearing your emotions on your sleeves as a man, can often ruin everything. I have to ask him again what it means, how much, in what situations, etc. But basically it comes down to being in control of your emotions and never letting a woman see you become weak because of your emotions. Women like passionate men, but they don't want a man whose emotions are not in …
/r/seduction19/03/12 04:23 PM
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Now that you mention it, he isn't a natural. He's a person who learned how to fix himself, become a better person, and always be a man. He actually said that he was very much like myself when he was my age. I think I said natural, because he didn't learn stuff from pickup artists. The PUA community didn't even exist when he was learning this stuff. He didn't learn it from anyone except from trial and error. That's why he said he got married so late, because he wanted to figure all this stuff out…
/r/seduction19/03/12 04:18 PM
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He is a rare one for sure. A complete character. Some might call him a screwball, but I see that he's accomplished happiness, not perfectly, but pretty damn near perfect. He told me that I was smart for wanting to learn and that nobody ever wants to learn. I thanked him for wanting to impart his knowledge. Unbelievable really.
/r/seduction19/03/12 04:13 PM
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I completely hear you on the balance thing. I remember becoming kind of stubborn with her once, and that has a similar effect, then I did the opposite and showed her my weakness: She called me afterwards, and I told her that I needed to resolve the conflict otherwise I wouldn't be able to get my work done. THAT is when she started getting doubts about us. I need to not be so freaked out when something unexpected happens, reacting either too firmly or not firmly at all and revealing my true emoti…
/r/seduction19/03/12 04:12 PM
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I'm going to take him out to lunch. I have a few more questions to ask him, and I know he'll have an answer. I know he knows his shit, because he didn't want to tell me what to do with this one girl, i.e., fan the flames of my oneitis. He told me what to do with women in general, whether it's this girl or not.
/r/seduction19/03/12 04:07 PM
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Perhaps, but honestly, everything he said to me made sense. It explained everything so clearly, why some of my friends have broken up in the past, how one of my friends has been able to maintain a sexy relationship despite being apart fo 2.5 years. Why one of my friends decided to stick with a guy even though he wasn't sure about her. Why things change all of a sudden when people get married. Etc. His advice was somewhat general, but it was very clear. To be a man you have to learn how to be in …
/r/seduction19/03/12 04:05 PM
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Maybe, and I'd be more inclined to believe you if you also had a sexy marriage that was 28 years old.
/r/seduction19/03/12 04:02 PM
1

Could you please explain how you train? I don't think that style is for me, personally, but I could learn a lot from it. Thank you for replying.
/r/seduction19/03/12 04:01 PM
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Thank you. He's says he's just an old guy, but to me he was an old guru who knows so much.
/r/seduction19/03/12 04:00 PM
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Can you give me an example of how you tell/show her your emotions like a man? What do you say? What do you say/do when she does something you disagree with or don't like? My 68-year old friend said to keep your emotions to yourself when something upsets you. That is, to not react or let them control your behavior, because women can sense this weakness and don't like it. I'm going to meet with him again, definitely to get more knowledge.
/r/seduction19/03/12 02:03 PM
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Could you tell me what you learned, maybe with examples? I need to grow up a lot still. I need to improve myself, and I'm a good learner.
/r/seduction19/03/12 02:00 PM
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It's a lot trickier than that, but yeah.
/r/seduction19/03/12 01:22 PM
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Thanks man. This guy is a find. He might not be correct in everything, but he has accomplished what I want, he's aware of what he does to get this, and he's willing/wanting to teach it.
/r/seduction19/03/12 01:22 PM
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I completely agree with you. I want an independent woman that has good friends. The thing she said was that hanging out with her friends started to make her happier than hanging out with me. Attraction for me started dropping in other words, and the start of this was me giving her emotional threads to pull on. I still need to talk to this man on when it's okay to show emotion, what kinds of emotion, in what situation, and how often. However, I'm sure this is it.
/r/seduction19/03/12 01:21 PM
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It's interesting that you said this. He mentioned a lot about how it's unpopular to think the way he thinks. And that it's easier to be this way with conservative women. He said that progressives don't like thinking like this. However, he said that humans have been this way for millions of years, and 50 years of progressive thinking isn't going to change that root desire.
/r/seduction19/03/12 01:18 PM
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A lot of people are giving shitty advice. You don't need friends to get women. I go sarging alone and get girls' phone numbers without her ever needing to see my friends, and many other PUAs can confirm this. One thing though, I think that you mean you don't have any friends at your current college. If by not having friends, you mean no friends at all who don't live elsewhere, then you need to start learning how to make friends, because you'll need the same skills when building rapport with a wo…
/r/seduction19/03/12 08:34 AM
2

You can't. But you can be a living example.
/r/seduction19/03/12 08:27 AM
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I can't just stop thinking about her as if it's a light switch. I like her. A lot. What we had was real, at least for some of it. Being sad reflects the fact that I actually do care about her. Anyway, I'm not an AFC, and I'm not going to piss away time chasing a lost cause. I refuse to get jaded about relationships, because I believe relationships are awesome, if you're with the right person.
/r/seduction17/03/12 08:19 AM
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I can say that I jumped into a relationship right after having a little success. It probably wasn't the right thing to do, but at least I learned a bit about girls. I never had a real girlfriend before. Anyway, my former self would have stayed butthurt for months, but I started sarging right away again. It's strange, but I feel I'm pickup up at just the point where I left off...not quite super-duper, but able to get some phone numbers and possible dates.
/r/seduction17/03/12 08:05 AM
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When I'm gaming, all I talk about is boring shit: What are you drinking? How do you like this bar? Do you live here or are you local? How do you know each other? Are you working or students? Boring topics, yes. But I'm not boring. Joke joke joke, be emotional in what you say, and don't be afraid of an awkward pause or two.
/r/seduction17/03/12 08:02 AM
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She's not with some other guy right now. But I think she's definitely thinking about it. In her mind she has options all of a sudden, which is either her being single again, getting with an ex, or something. Anyway, I'm going to sarge again tonight, more or less sober, like I did yesterday. I want to warm-up for St. Patrick's Day ;-). I'm just happy that I still have an edge and have the skills to at least approach a random girl and get her phone number.
/r/seduction16/03/12 02:52 PM
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Don't get oneitis. Judging from her past relationships, my GF has had guys chase her after she had cashed out of the relationship. I think she's used to the kind of guy that'll keep wagging his dick around her like a little bitch while she gallivants around with life. She's about to find the cold, hard, reality of dating a (aspiring) pickup artist: I am going to be indifferent to her. I'm not going to get angry at her. The opposite of love isn't hate. It's indifference. Right now there is a bunc…
/r/seduction16/03/12 02:49 PM
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Here are my ways, which are an amalgamation of many other sedditors' advice: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/lui5z/getting_into_state_two_kinds_of_approaches/
/r/seduction16/03/12 08:58 AM
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I have another suggestion: Be your true self when it comes to values and opinions. If she can't handle your values or opinions, she's not a keeper as far as a relationship goes. If you can't be your true self around her, then it's not worth being around her.
/r/seduction16/03/12 08:57 AM
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It's shit like this that keeps all of us here at /r/seddit going. Your positive energy and willingness to try anything is inspiring. Keep at it, and you will see success.
/r/seduction16/03/12 08:52 AM
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Play the cards you're dealt. Don't whine about what cards you could/should have had. I'm a fatter guy, and I used to have hangups about not being skinny enough. Self-improvement is honorable, and I'm almost to the point of being dictionary-defined normal weight. However, there are so many women out there that like different things, and many that don't have strong preferences over body type. These two things should help anyone that struggles with body image issues.
/r/seduction16/03/12 08:49 AM
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I'm going to give her three more days. If she can't make up her mind, I'm going to break up with her, with the possibility of her seducing me in the future, if that's what she wants. However, I won't make any promises that I won't be taken at that point in the future. I'm a man of integrity, and I'm going to break up overtly before I attempt to kino again.
/r/seduction16/03/12 08:38 AM
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Yes. Generally speaking, it's best to avoid conversation about previous relationships. You can talk about when, how long, and how many, but I never compare girls I'm dating to past relationships. Honestly, I believe my current relationship is dying because my GF is comparing me to her ex boyfriends.
/r/seduction16/03/12 08:01 AM
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This is a really good post OP, and a very good response, 8LegsAWeek. Easy, normal, and unstressful.
/r/seduction16/03/12 06:43 AM
2

Before you can bring happiness to others, you have to be happy with yourself. You are alpha. You are good-looking, handsome, and sexy. You don't need others to approve of your life. You are 100% awesome as it is. You don't need a woman to tell you that you're worth something. You already know you are priceless. Fuck anyone who tells you otherwise. They are little pieces of shit. You are awesome. Everyone wants to be your friend. They just don't know it yet.
/r/seduction15/03/12 08:35 AM
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Face her. Hold her hands, hand for hand. Tell her why you like her (i.e. qualify her). Look into her eyes. Take one hand away, place it on the top of her head and run it through her hair as you bring her close to you. Don't forget to breathe! Close your eyes, and bring her lips to you. Don't french kiss her; just make it short and sweet. Look into her eyes again and smile genuinely. If she is okay with holding your hands for extended periods of time, she is okay/waiting for you to kiss her (at t…
/r/seduction15/03/12 08:31 AM
1

How old are you? It seems like you need to get your life in order first before worrying about girls.
/r/seduction15/03/12 08:27 AM
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Honestly? This person has a tonne of baggage that you don't need. Forget her unless you just want practice at game, but even then, I'd be hesitant to invest so much into a stranger who obviously needs a lot of support. Just because she has a vagina and shows IOIs doesn't mean you should go for her.
/r/seduction15/03/12 08:24 AM
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I sometimes throw in a, "Hey, you know what? You're pretty friendly!" somewhere after the 1st minute to 5 minutes. It makes things fun and stress-free.
/r/seduction15/03/12 07:19 AM
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Dude, I had your problem. Go out alone. Do this until you become comfortable with it. When you become so outcome independent that it doesn't matter what the entire bar thinks, then you are ready to game in front of your friends. Make it a point to do this. Let them laugh at you. Laugh with them! Re-build the reputation with them that this is who you are.
/r/seduction15/03/12 04:02 AM
2

This is a good question. Usually, physical game is the way to go in these venues. Think about the body language you use when you are gaming and show this, but without words.
/r/seduction15/03/12 03:53 AM
1

I've never had the benefit of having a wingman. Solo sarging is most of what I've done, and if you can self-motivate yourself to try it a few times, it's not too bad. A wingman would be nice to have another pair of eyes help to improve my game, but I don't think it's necessary, and in some instances, could become a crutch.
/r/seduction15/03/12 03:50 AM
1

You forgot to quote the part before "it's MUCH better to..."
/r/seduction17/02/12 09:02 PM
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I didn't mean to imply this is something you should do with your friends, but I see how that could be construed after re-reading what I wrote.
/r/seduction16/02/12 10:55 AM
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You're not contributing anything.
/r/seduction16/02/12 10:31 AM
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I don't think you're correct. The first two paragraphs of what you wrote will most likely dig you even deeper into the friendzone with even worse oneitis. There is a fair amount written on how to get "that one girl" even if going after a single girl is unorthodox pickup strategy. The first step is to disengage for a good amount of time. Then at some point later (more time for longer friendship), you arrange to meet up with her and turn on your game. Your last paragraph is spot on, and for AFCs s…
/r/seduction16/02/12 10:27 AM
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This is nonsense and honestly says a lot about any guy that believes it to be true. If you wanted to insult me, you should just insult me instead of beating around the bush. You don't have to agree with me.
/r/seduction16/02/12 10:22 AM
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I see. On that second time, you should have said, "Ahh I see, well, I'm free on (xxxday) in the evening, and on (xxxday). How long is is your family in for? Just till Friday? Oh okay, well let's find a time when we can hang. I'll give you a call on Saturday. Have fun with your family!" Anyway, it sounds like you are sucking energy out of the interaction, trying to get her to come out with you. You need to inject energy into the interaction. Plan a night out, plan a party, go see a show, go to an…
/r/seduction16/02/12 08:24 AM
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If she doesn't counteroffer your invitations about possible times it'll work out to hang out in the future, then she just isn't that into you. When she said she couldn't hang out, did she say anything to the effect of: *"I can't right now, but next weekend will be better." *"Aww, I want to, but I have family in town." *"Thursday evening is good for me." You got her a rose and she liked it. Most girls would. You've conveyed more than enough interest. Now make plans to do something fun and awesome…
/r/seduction16/02/12 06:25 AM
2

A lot of guys I've met in person from the pick-up community tend to be nice guys that have become assholes. Honestly, I doubt that you have met any guys in person from the pick-up community. All of these bullet points are newb mistakes that are mostly covered in pick-up material that is almost a decade old now. You are describing AFCs.
/r/seduction14/02/12 07:15 AM
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A lot of guys I've met in person from the pick-up community tend to be nice guys that have become assholes. You haven't met any guys in person from the pick-up community, based on your bullet points that describe what an asshole is.
/r/seduction14/02/12 07:12 AM
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Try gaming without alcohol. You'll realize that gaming drunk girls while you're sober is like playing dodgeball with preschoolers. You have a lot more time and mental energy to come up with witty banter than the people you're interacting. Then once you realize how stupid approach anxiety is, add a little alcohol and game like a rockstar.
/r/seduction13/02/12 09:21 AM
1

Facebook?
/r/seduction11/02/12 11:15 PM
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Who cares? Just be cordial, fun, and gracious. Don't let this girl get in the way of you checking out all the other girls at whatever venue you're at. Don't let her presence stop you from hitting on other girls. If you are truly 100% okay whether or not she's into you and you are 100% yourself when hitting on other girls, chances are she'll gravitate toward you unless she's into that other guy she's with. However, at that point when you have other girls into you, you'll probably see the light an…
/r/seduction11/02/12 10:59 PM
1

I'm 25, good looking, smart, funny, and likely have a bright future. I'm even a good salesman, and I'm fine with public speaking, so there's no reason I shouldn't be able to show all this to a cute girl in starbucks. This is your problem. You can be 50, stupid, arrogant, and have your life all a mess, be a introvert, and still get laid like a rockstar. These things make for a good life, but you won't attract a girl just because you have certain attributes. There is nothing wrong with you. There …
/r/seduction11/02/12 08:07 PM
3

Vin Di Carlo's escalation ladder. Read it!
/r/seduction11/02/12 05:38 PM
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I'm not sure I agree. This has been written after reading a bunch of material and then seeing the big picture. How do you physically go from shaking a girls hand, to kissing her, to having sex with her? Just being honest, and passionate won't teach you how to do this. Vin Di Carlo's escalation ladder teaches you how to do this. I think the best way to learn pickup is to read ALL the material with specific info (Mystery Method, Magic Bullets, etc.) until some of them get lodged in your brain. The…
/r/seduction11/02/12 05:25 PM
3

Say "Happy Valentine's Day!" Every woman who doesn't have a man is thinking about it this time of year. This isn't a really good opener, but it's great for getting over approach anxiety. In my experience, no lady gets upset by this; they all smile even if they're in a relationship. I would transition it the way I normally do: followup by telling the person what you're doing in the current moment for about 30-60 seconds until she says something or asks a question. If not, ask her a question (e.g.…
/r/seduction11/02/12 05:06 PM
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You are correct. The solution is to get experience. Approach 100s of times. This allows your logical brain to tame your animal brain. You understand that while getting rejected by a girl you like doesn't feel good, it isn't that big of a deal, because it's happened before, and it'll happen again. Ironically, when a girl DOES show interest, it feels good, but it also won't be that big of a deal, because it's happened before, and it'll happen again. This is ironic, because it's this nonchalant att…
/r/seduction07/02/12 06:38 PM
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What is your goal in life? For a while, it was to get good with approaching girls. Now that you have that under your belt, what is your goal? This is the source of your apathy. Maybe you want a girlfriend? Or a wife? Or a family? Maybe you want to get with even hotter girls? Maybe your goal isn't related to game at all. Maybe you just really want to be successful, make a lot of money. Maybe you just want to help others less fortunate than yourself? Not being good with girls was something you nee…
/r/seduction07/02/12 06:25 PM
0

This is awesome! Keep it up man.
/r/seduction07/02/12 05:13 AM
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I'm sorry man, that sucks. Anyway, she is being a bitch and liking the attention, or is completely naive about the whole situation. From what it sounds like, it's the latter, and part of the reason she was naive is that you didn't convey enough sexual intent. The best way to convey sexual intent is through kino. If you aren't touching her and she isn't touching you back, you are just friends. Hanging out with a coworker is completely normal/acceptable when you're in a relationship. Hanging out w…
/r/seduction07/02/12 05:10 AM
1

This might be a /r/sex question, but how do I make you come? Which position works best?
/r/seduction18/01/12 01:46 AM
4

She cares about her AFC friend. Wing for him, or at least feed him drinks and make him have a good time. She will love you for doing this. Make it you and your girl's "mission" to make sure he keeps up with the ladies. You're now on a team together.
/r/seduction15/01/12 12:31 AM
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I'm going to go against popular sentiment here, and say that if this is something YOU also value, then it's perfectly fine. There was a post about a couple months ago by a devout catholic guy who was using game to find and attract a good devout catholic girl. I think it's perfectly fine as long as both people expect and value it.
/r/seduction31/12/11 06:54 PM
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Never switch off! You handled this like a boss. Seriously, you should be flirting and doing light kino with every girl you are with, whether it's your relatives, friends, or whoever. People should be happy/flattered if their girlfriends or wives get hit on. It means they're with a keeper. Only an AFC will get upset when his girl gets hit on, because he's scared that she will leave him. A good man on the other hand will flirt with other women constantly even in front of his girl, which he feels i…
/r/seduction30/12/11 09:50 PM
3

If she isn't doing anything, take her hand and place it on your thigh or ass and move her hand around on your body. She'll get the idea as you do the same to her. Start kissing her neck and gently pulling at her hair. Slowly move her hand toward your privates as you do the same to her. Move her hand away. Move it closer than the last time, etc. Just like pickup, a lot of girls won't do anything on their own in bed the first time unless you lead them.
/r/seduction30/12/11 07:12 PM
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It's really whether or not you are boring, not the content of your speech. But perhaps you're right. Some gimmicks and material from magic bullets is good to get started with. It certainly helped me out. I just want people to know that you can attract a girl even if you're talking about mustard.
/r/seduction30/12/11 06:39 PM
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No it doesn't. Being fun without kino is what gets you friendzoned. I've gotten many numbers and a few day 2's by talking about boring college stuff.
/r/seduction30/12/11 08:34 AM
1

I spent one year in DC, and politics was definitely a topic of convo when meeting people. Generally, the younger the wonks, the more recalcitrant they are towards people with different political views. As I've grown up, it's not really as big of an issue with people as it once was. It's only an issue if you let it be an issue.
/r/seduction30/12/11 08:23 AM
2

Either you're really creepy or really good at trolling.
/r/seduction29/12/11 11:16 PM
3

Grocery store situational: "What are you looking for?" "What do you think about this cereal?" etc. What discipline, by the way?
/r/seduction29/12/11 11:11 PM
3

I just think to myself what one of those guys would yell at me for being scared about approaching a girl or about her rejecting me.
/r/seduction29/12/11 10:00 PM
1

I think you're problem is that you haven't qualified her enough. This usually helps to kill LMR. Tell her why you like her and the reason shouldn't be something about her body. If you want to date her, invite her out on a non-sexual date or meetup with your friends to demonstrate that you don't see her as only a sexual object. Let her see other aspects of your life, and then re-escalate. This worked for me when a girl gave me a similar line a few times in a row.
/r/seduction29/12/11 07:11 PM
1

Eh. I think you're wrong. You can pretty much say anything you want as long it's in the right context and everyone has the right energy about them. Negging is pretty much a requisite if you want to get with women on the more beautiful end of the spectrum who generally have really strong bitch shields. You need to get them off their high horse essentially. There's no need to neg a girl who is already being nice to you. These girls, however, are generally uglier.
/r/seduction29/12/11 06:53 PM
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KrauserPUA has some good videos, open to close and unedited. A good first step is to forget talking to girls for a second and get used to saying hi to random people with your game mindset turned off.
/r/seduction29/12/11 06:49 PM
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Personally, I like this one: Harden the fuck up
/r/seduction29/12/11 06:47 PM
1

Awesome FR. I learned a lot from reading this.
/r/seduction29/12/11 08:51 AM
1

My list: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/lui5z/getting_into_state_two_kinds_of_approaches/
/r/seduction29/12/11 08:29 AM
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If you are confused about her interest levels, I'd say expecting a kiss might be a bit too much. Have you held her hand before? I assumed you have. If not, you need to make her smile, laugh, and overall ensure she's having fun while also demonstrating that you like her, physically. Touch/squeeze her arm when you say something witty or a playful push when she says something back at you that makes you laugh or smile. Then here's a way to get her to hold your hand: http://www.reddit.com/r/askseddit…
/r/seduction29/12/11 06:45 AM
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Related post in Askseddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/askseddit/comments/nscqd/what_is_qualifying_somebody/
/r/seduction29/12/11 06:36 AM
1

Make a plan to take your dog to a new park. Ask a stranger for directions. It might seem ridiculous, but do this to every single stranger you encounter on your walk to the park. You're the only one who knows you've asked the question 10 times already. This is very similar to when you game in a bar, opening set after set after set. Do this until it doesn't scare you anymore. You can also ask people what time it is.
/r/seduction29/12/11 06:34 AM
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Take her hand while walking. Stop walking and yank her hand so she stops walking. Smile when she looks at you in a confused way. Take her other hand and qualify her. As you do this, move her hands up around your shoulders. Move your hands around her waist. Keep talking and smiling and go for it when the time seems right. Best if youre outside and in private, but something similar can work in a different context. Here is how I qualify: http://www.reddit.com/r/askseddit/comments/nscqd/what_is_qual…
/r/seduction29/12/11 05:10 AM
1

From what I remember, RSD instructs you to be fun but also have sexual intent.
/r/seduction29/12/11 05:06 AM
2

When she tells you where she's from say, "oh no, you know what people say about folks from your town.". "what do they say?". "umm...nevermind. "What are you doing later tonight?" "going to the irish bar across the street. Wait, what do people say about my town??". "youre so funny." "omg youre so weird." Eventually you can just say whatever, even just saying that you were just messing with her. This is an eaxmpe of how you can keep it fun and interesting. Also, spend a few hours coming up with in…
/r/seduction28/12/11 07:50 PM
2

Nights like these still help. You are building up familiarity in an environment that most people would shudder to do: being at a bar alone. At the end of the night nothing happened. Realizing that this is the worst that could happen when you go out is a powerful thing and helps with approach anxiety. Keep it up.
/r/seduction28/12/11 07:53 AM
1

My guess is that you suck at building attraction. I say this, because you got 80+ numbers and only had a few day 2's. If you built enough interest, your percentage of day 2's would go up. If a girl is flirting and has daisy eyes for you, the interaction will never be dull.
/r/seduction28/12/11 04:34 AM
1

Personally, I like having fewer clothes that all are high quality than a bunch of clothes that are mediocre. It means that I look good no matter what I wear.
/r/seduction28/12/11 04:28 AM
2

Tell him this. Part of growing up and being a man is admitting when you're wrong and owning it. Don't let your ego get in the way of your success. You can read and watch all the pickup material you want, but you are blessed to have a natural you can learn from, and the fact that he's your dad means he will help you out, even if it means sucking it up and taking his shit. If he cares about you, it'll be for the better even if you don't like it.
/r/seduction28/12/11 04:27 AM
2

Because he isn't fucking attractive. People think that being tall, rich, handsome, etc. will make women horny. Women don't work that way. The women who do go for the tall, rich, handsome guys who have no game spread their legs to get something non-romantic, such as a comfy lifestyle, prestige, fame, etc. These are not happy relationships. These are business relationships.
/r/seduction27/12/11 07:47 PM
2

Dude. You should ask your dad for help. Seriously, he would love to help you out. He's your dad.
/r/seduction27/12/11 07:27 PM
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Every decision in my life has been my choice. I have decided where to live, what to study, what type of job I wanted, what hobbies to do in my free time, what clothes to wear, what friends to hang out with, etc. It seems so insane that people leave finding the person they will marry up to pure chance. Even worse, people time and time again end up marrying the first person that shows them sexual attraction (aka AFCs). I want the skills to be able to choose the person I want to spend time with and…
/r/seduction27/12/11 08:02 AM
4

This is a very advanced observation, and I think it's spot on.
/r/seduction27/12/11 07:19 AM
1

Boring, mundane interview questions: How do you all know each other? Where are you from? Are you locals or just visiting? Are you in school or working? What are your plans for the rest of the night? Besides drinking, what do you like to do for fun? Protip: Don't be boring or mundane in your conversation. If you're doing it right, they'll ask you questions as well.
/r/seduction26/12/11 11:05 PM
1

Basically: SARGE SARGE SARGE!
/r/seduction26/12/11 11:01 PM
2

You suck for putting "let's front page it!" in your title. Learn some reddiquite.
/r/seduction26/12/11 10:58 PM
2

In my opinion one could learn a lot from how Pauly D carries himself, but not the other douchebags.
/r/seduction26/12/11 10:22 PM
1

Completely spot on. Bitchy reactions to blowouts is generally AFC behavior. Self-amusement is key.
/r/seduction26/12/11 10:17 PM
1

Plow plow plow! If nothing after a minute then wish them a great night and move onto the next set.
/r/seduction26/12/11 10:14 PM
1

This is exactly what I do. Others see you leaving with a smile and that will make the other sets more eager to meet you. It'll also make the bitches regret being mean to you when the realize how awesome you are interacting and giving smiles and laughter to others at the venue. Sometimes reopening the bitch set after warming up the room works really well. I don't get angry at girls who have their bitch shield up. It's there for a good reason.
/r/seduction26/12/11 10:14 PM
1

Oh cool, I didn't know about that last one. David D. did an interview with her that was really insightful as well.
/r/seduction26/12/11 09:55 PM
5

One is called parroting. Literally repeat the last few words of what someone says to keep a conversation going: You: What did you do today? Her: I went to work, came home, and then hit up a happy hour. You: You hit up a happy hour. Her: Yeah, I went to Smith's on 8th street downtown with some friends. You: Friends. Her: Yeah, Sara, Jason, and Emily. I think you met Jason and Emily from the party last Saturday. You: continue conversation about how much fun you had at the party BOOM!
/r/seduction26/12/11 09:52 PM
2

As far as pickup, guys need to know what works for women in general. It's only by practice on thousands and thousands of women by master pickup artists that we know what works with women in general. Listening to a woman is generally unhelpful since she is on the receiving end of pickup and a completely unique person with unique preferences and cannot really tell you what you can do to make yourself attractive to women in general. She'd be better, if good at getting guys' attention, at advising o…
/r/seduction26/12/11 08:06 AM
2

I'd like to add one thing: Practice talking to old people. Seriously. Old grannies LOVE talking to handsome young men, and they are probably the easiest people to open and have wonderful stories to tell.
/r/seduction26/12/11 07:53 AM
9

It saved my life. Seriously, a quick read only takes 3-4 hours, and each 2-5 page chapter teaches you one quick trick.
/r/seduction26/12/11 07:50 AM
1

Fun Together = Friendship Fun Together + Kino/Sex = Relationship. Don't touch him, and don't let hem kino escalate, and you will put him in the friendzone. It's pretty simple in my opinion. You could be more overt and tell him about other guys you think are cute or want to date, and even suggest girls you think are pretty who might be good for him.
/r/seduction26/12/11 07:47 AM
12

"How to Talk to Anyone" by Leil Lowndes. Quick read with about 100 easy-to-memorize tricks.
/r/seduction26/12/11 07:45 AM
1

I don't really know. I do know that re-attraction and re-escalation is often a possibility if things haven't gone too bad. That is, invite her to hang out, tease her, flirt, make her laugh, build comfort, re-introduce kino starting with light touching moving to a quick kiss etc. as if you had just met. The only difference is that the escalation will go quicker and is "guaranteed" since you've already sealed the deal with her.
/r/seduction26/12/11 06:45 AM
2

There are so many more women in real life that will give you the time of day unlike people online.
/r/seduction24/12/11 08:07 AM
2

Funny guy is a great thing. I say wait till tomorrow. Call her and be funny for a few minutes and then invite her to hang out. Don't text. This should be in askseddit.
/r/seduction23/12/11 08:51 AM
10

This is a crutch that really works. I've done this in the field a lot especially when solo sarging. Seriously, keep this in your back pocket until you've progressed to the point that you don't need to do this anymore. Imaginary friends who text, "sillymallard you are so fucking awesome" have been some of my best friends and wingmen.
/r/seduction23/12/11 08:43 AM
2

http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/nmx6j/the_sedditors_checklist/c3aivfx Keep a log here on seddit by posting field reports. Number them: [FR]1, [FR]2, ....
/r/seduction23/12/11 08:35 AM
7

Exercise isn't necessary, but it helps a lot. You seem to have your game together, but for many people, getting in shape is a lot easier than improving one's game to the point that being out of shape doesn't matter.
/r/seduction23/12/11 08:33 AM
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If you build enough attraction, girls will answer your phone calls, will return your voicemails, will provide counteroffers when you invite them out and they can't join you, will go out of their way to see you, will make time for you, etc. If you walk up to 20 girls and say, "Hey, I'm in a rush, but I thought you were cute and wanted to talk to you. Do you have a phone number?" Chances are a couple might give you their phone number, but the odds that they'll pick up or call you back are pretty l…
/r/seduction23/12/11 08:29 AM
1

Agree.
/r/seduction23/12/11 08:23 AM
0

Social value and self-esteem don't usually correlate negatively with masturbation. On rare occasions they do, and psychologists have already recognize this to be abnormal behavior if this is the case (i.e. usually preferring to jack off than spend time with friends, or using masturbation to fill a void in your life). Why do you assume I haven't tried it before? 12 days is my record, and no effect for me. If it helps you, go for it, but the evidence is mixed on this topic. The fact that hardly an…
/r/seduction21/12/11 08:32 PM
1

We're cool. Have a great day!
/r/seduction21/12/11 08:24 PM
4

Okay, however I'm a little peeved that you assumed I didn't read the OPs links. The first link has been posted numerous times to seddit before, and I've come across the second site a few times in the past. I read a lot. I've listened to hours and hours of dating advice and watched too many videos to count. Part of the reason why I say not masturbating is not proven or fundamental is because the topic of not masturbating hardly ever comes up in pickup advice from the experts. But if it helps you,…
/r/seduction21/12/11 07:53 PM
6

I said fear of rejection, not rejection. Why do some men continue to pursue women while others whimper in a corner? Confidence is a hackneyed term in seduction. I prefer being a bit more specific: abundance mentality, outcome independence, learning to take rejection as a rejection of your approach and not a rejection of yourself, maintaining a strong frame/state, assuming attraction, managing your expectations, making your night's goal to have fun and not to get girls, and good old fashioned exp…
/r/seduction21/12/11 07:27 PM
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Even this is wrong. The single biggest obstacle for every man, as far as talking to women, is the fear of rejection, that is, how rejection might lower your social value, and how rejection might damage your self-esteem.
/r/seduction21/12/11 05:59 PM
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PORN IS THE SINGLE REASON YOU FIND IT HARD TO TALK TO WOMEN! No it isn't.
/r/seduction21/12/11 05:10 PM
1

You are so far in the friendzone that you think you're getting out of it. The only real way out of the friendzone is to stop being friends with her for a long time, proportionate to the time you've been in the friendzone (at least a few months if not half a year). That means dropping all communication. Stop wasting your time with her and start spending it on improving your game. I assume you're going to go to college soon so get in shape, learn some style, make some money, etc.
/r/seduction21/12/11 06:00 AM
3

Personally, the problem of getting friendzoned and oneitis seems to wane as I get older. Maybe I'm just better at managing expectations these days.
/r/seduction20/12/11 07:03 PM
1

After introducing it into my workout for a couple months, I notice that I've become leaner (less fat) while maintaining muscle mass. Also, I use it to get into the mood of working out when I'm just not feeling it.
/r/seduction20/12/11 08:23 AM
2

HIIT is where it's at!
/r/seduction20/12/11 08:16 AM
2

Generally, you shouldn't listen to women if you want help with attracting women. You need to learn from guys who have used game on 1,000's of women and can tell you what works in general. Every woman is unique and different. Each woman's perspective and advice is interesting but most likely unhelpful since they are on the receiving end of male game. As a guy, I can say what in a girl makes me attracted to her, but I would be useless at telling women specifically what to do in order to pique male…
/r/seduction20/12/11 08:13 AM
2

The first 30 seconds is actually pretty good, the rest is over-the-top.
/r/seduction20/12/11 08:07 AM
3

Go to the gym or find some other way to sweat everyday.
/r/seduction20/12/11 08:02 AM
2

Opinion and situational openers are indirect.
/r/seduction20/12/11 06:50 AM
1

Since you mentioned it: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/myvwl/a_couple_openers_for_the_holidays_for_you_guys/
/r/seduction20/12/11 12:09 AM
1

Awesome!
/r/seduction19/12/11 09:22 PM
2

Of course man. Just make sure you're having fun the entire time whether or not she takes it. And if she doesn't take it, just make her laugh more and build even more comfort and try it again.
/r/seduction19/12/11 08:50 PM
1

I'd say it depends on what you want. If you want dates, then going early and sober to number close is a better context. If you want hookups, waiting till later probably makes it easier.
/r/seduction19/12/11 08:37 PM
5

renegon, I just wanted to tell you to keep your chin up and go out again and again and again! This FR is a complete success as far as I'm concerned.
/r/seduction19/12/11 05:03 AM
2

Stir the pot a little. Defriend her.
/r/seduction19/12/11 04:33 AM
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Here's how I've gotten girls to hold my hand: If I sense whatever is going on between us is going well (laughter, smiles, light touching), I stop whatever I'm doing, whether it's walking, talking, etc. and hold my hand out palm up and smile at her. If she's down, she'll take it, and I'll squeeze her hand a few times and let go. Repeat. If she doesn't and makes an issue of it, I'll say, "You're so funny." I once read on an internet forum that what drives girls crazy is how a guy looks at them. Af…
/r/seduction19/12/11 04:10 AM
7

Well if you see what I wrote, I give them about three chances to not respond. After a minute of me spewing on about myself and the night I'm having and them not biting on anything, I excuse myself in a friendly, polite way "Well, nice talking to you!" and move on. Get used to girls not responding to you. You have to plow, plow, plow! Just say stuff until she realizes that you don't need her to react in order for you to be having a good time. It's not that bad. It usually only takes 20-60 seconds…
/r/seduction19/12/11 03:56 AM
1

Thanks man.
/r/seduction19/12/11 03:47 AM
0

When you say go for it what should I do? Banter/joke, build comfort, and kino escalate until you close. Get her phone number from your friends or just wait until the next time you see her.
/r/seduction19/12/11 03:39 AM
1

On 4) If she says is busy, I will flat out ask her what days are generally good for her and then tell her that we might be able to work something out and will get back to her about it.
/r/seduction18/12/11 08:04 PM
6

Hey, I got your number from <random friend>. She wants us to get married, but I'm not the kind of guy that marries on the first date. I hope you understand, but she did say really nice things about you, and it'd be fun to hang out sometime.
/r/seduction18/12/11 07:58 PM
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Keep this attitude: http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/kiwx1/my_son_running_to_the_swingset_dad_theres_new/ Here is one of my standard openers: Approach from the side, drink at the waist, genuine mischievous middle-schooler smile, and say "Hey! How's your night going?" If they respond go with it. If no response, I answer my own question without dropping an ounce of state "I'm just here kicking it with my friends, we're having a blast. How long have you guys been here? Are you from around here…
/r/seduction18/12/11 07:47 PM
2

How can I get over my ex more quickly and gain confidence when talking to new girls. Sarge sarge sarge.
/r/seduction18/12/11 07:35 PM
5

If I'm on a Day 2 or more, I test girls by saying, "Hey, let me get the first round." If I'm with a group of people and my drink runs out, I'll usually be courteous and ask if anyone else wants something while I go get another. If they don't reciprocate in any way, it's a big red flag for me. I never would buy a girl a drink as part of a cold approach.
/r/seduction18/12/11 08:17 AM
6

Aww turtle_thunder, you're probably just really cute.... Honestly though, I would say, "Hey, I saw you over there and I wanted to say hi." Usually I just ask people how their night/day is going. I've found that being boring and mundane with a vibe of awesomeness is much better than a cool esoteric pickup line without any personality behind it.
/r/seduction18/12/11 08:02 AM
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Hey, thought you were cute and wanted to say hi. Awesome man. The first time is the worst/most awkward. Do this 10 more times to 10 different girls and see what happens. This is a successful night, IMO.
/r/seduction18/12/11 07:58 AM
0

I've run into these girls before. They're either not happy with their current relationships and are looking for an out or they are just really slutty. It sounds like she's a combo of the two. If you want to have fun and you're not bothered that she's "taken", go for it. If you want an LTR, she's not mature enough for it yet.
/r/seduction18/12/11 07:10 AM
4

Perhaps in your country/culture, but it isn't unacceptable in many others.
/r/seduction18/12/11 06:51 AM
2

I disagree with you. Outer game consists of the clothes we put on, our body posture, physical fitness, etc. Inner game is our self-confidence, state, and how grounded we are with who we are. If you look gross, but you are a well grounded person, you will get somewhere. If you look like a million bucks but are an AFC on the inside, you will get somewhere. If you have both, you will get pretty far. People have spent a lot of time dissecting all the little parts of game that matter, and it's a diss…
/r/seduction18/12/11 01:14 AM
3

Tell her to smile more.
/r/seduction18/12/11 01:08 AM
2

No, but if it's the only way you can meet women, then maybe it's a sign of a bigger problem.
/r/seduction18/12/11 01:06 AM
1

Come from the standpoint of self-amusement and don't worry about girls and closes yet. Come from this frame: You are in the bar, being amused by everything, and the people in the bar are for your entertainment. Don't try to get anything from people, just go up to them and share your fun, funny self-amusement with them. If they don't want to have a part in it, be amused by their rejection.
/r/seduction17/12/11 04:48 AM
2

It sounds like you are a relationship man, and not a ONS man.
/r/seduction15/12/11 08:13 AM
2

Why didn't you go for the phone number?
/r/seduction15/12/11 07:14 AM
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You're not entirely correct. Bitch shields and people who are super selfish are different things. The hotter the girl, the stronger the bitch shield, generally. According to old PUA methods, you neg the shit out of them, lower their value, raise yours, tease them, don't fall for their shit tests, make them qualify themselves, accept their qualification, banter, seduce, and have sex with them. Newer methods aren't as overt about jockeying for value, but rather focus on you being outcome independe…
/r/seduction15/12/11 07:01 AM
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Here's where this starts to be a rant. We have a cancer. It's killing us slowly. We need to burn this tumor out, gentlemen, and the effort starts with YOU. I like your post, but I completely disagree with you. The mantra of the early PUA community went something like: "Women nowadays want everything, they want to be treated like princesses and offer nothing in return. They won't give us the time of day, so what are we going to do about it? We're going to fuck them!" That's much different from mo…
/r/seduction15/12/11 04:02 AM
1

I will not say, sorry.
/r/seduction15/12/11 12:18 AM
2

Build mad, mad, attraction first.
/r/seduction15/12/11 12:17 AM
2

You know...when I first started saying hi to people on the street, maybe 20% of the people reacted positively. I think it's because I wanted to get a reaction out of them. When I stopped worrying about the outcome and just wanted to wish them well, (on top of daily practice for a couple months), I'd say that 90% of people react positively.
/r/seduction15/12/11 12:14 AM
0

I'd like to add that if you come from the perspective that you are 100% okay with rejected, then you will not do any of the things the author writes about (Yelling, following, approaching in a threatening way, etc.). If you do tonnes of approaches, you'll realize that while you might be able to crack someone who gives you a super blowout, it's probably a better use of your time to forget that girl and go approach someone else who is more amenable to being approached. That being said, the author …
/r/seduction15/12/11 12:12 AM
1

It sounds like you haven't made getting good with girls a priority in your life. Finding, attracting, and having sex with women is your number one purpose in life from nature's perspective. Your number one priority is not work, money, or a fun hobby.
/r/seduction14/12/11 05:17 PM
2

Have you thought about why something changed between when you used to be outgoing and now? What stage of life were you in back then, and where are you now? Anyway, my advice is to start talking to people who are paid to talk to you: clothing store people, baristas, any retail store clerk, etc.
/r/seduction14/12/11 07:34 AM
1

Had to stop at Day 14. This was AFC me in college. Too painful to watch.
/r/seduction13/12/11 10:33 PM
0

Yes, but it is surprising how many Indians who don't know English can also pronounce Western names.
/r/seduction13/12/11 10:15 PM
1

Yeap. I agree with you (see my other post). However I can't stand people who have no interest in eventually trying to learn how to pronounce my real name. They go in the rubbish bin. My culture is part of who I am, and since I'm gaming for LTRs, anyone that doesn't want to vibe with my culture is a dealbreaker for me. Another thing I do is I look a girl straight in the eye and pronounce my name exactly the way it should be pronounced, she tries and fails, I say it again without dropping a beat, …
/r/seduction13/12/11 09:43 PM
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Indians can pronounce American names fine albeit with an accent. Americans should be able to pronounce Indian names somewhat correctly and stop being ignorant about other cultures.
/r/seduction13/12/11 09:18 PM
3

Steps: Get her to stand up. Start kissing. Put her hands around your shoulders. Put your hands around her waist. Start kissing more. Rub her waist and slide your hands underneath the back of her shirt. Kiss kiss kiss. Move your hands away, then back again and go further up her back. Kiss kiss kiss. Move your hands so far up that her shirt starts coming off. With the shirt off, move your hands behind her pants. Kiss kiss kiss. Slide them around until you get one button undone. She might resist, s…
/r/seduction13/12/11 08:30 PM
1

Who cares? Play the cards your dealt. Thinking about the counterfactual might be interesting from an academic standpoint, but unnecessary for improving your game. Anyway, I have a habit of making cold reality guys like this my friends. He and many others don't see the magic of life the way I do.
/r/seduction13/12/11 08:18 PM
2

I haven't had a serious relationship in a while. I'm trying to be different with my current. I'm trying to periodically disconnect myself from her, to remember abundance mentality and outcome independence. I try bringing my mental state back to the time when we had just gone on a couple dates, and try to imagine myself flirting with her, kino-ing, making her laugh etc. as if I was trying to build attraction from scratch again. Not expecting anything and remembering that I am 100% whole and happy…
/r/seduction13/12/11 08:02 PM
0

Say good morning, good afternoon, or good evening to people on the street (or simply morning! afternoon! evening!). I've sparked conversation with people just by doing this. You could followup with, "Hey. Nice smile! What are you up to?" or "How's your day going?" I usually do this while walking, so it has to be fairly quick. I met my current girlfriend on the street. Jeremy Soul has videos and a book on how to day game, step by step.
/r/seduction13/12/11 07:57 PM
1

Can you tell us which cultures and where you live?
/r/seduction13/12/11 07:54 PM
4

Hi, I have a similar situation, not Indian, but pretty close to ya. Believe it or not, during the daytime or anywhere conducive to conversation it's a DHV. You're not like the rest of the Johns, Jakes, and Erics out there. You're unique, and your name probably has a cool meaning with a story behind it. Sometimes, when people have a hard time pronouncing my name, I'll pull out my business card to show them how it's spelled, which opens up a new DHV line of conversation (my work is pretty badass).…
/r/seduction13/12/11 07:49 PM
1

Awesome man! Just give back whenever you learn new things. I'll continue to do so, although I might retire sillymallard
/r/seduction10/12/11 09:03 PM
1

The way I see it, if a woman is attracted to me being 100% myself, then to keep her attracted to me, all I have to do is keep being 100% myself. It makes things so much simpler and easy.
/r/seduction10/12/11 09:02 PM
1

Thanks man. In my opinion, a few months isn't a long time, but longer than most people would want to wait. It's definitely not been smooth sailing the entire time, but the overall trajectory has been positive.
/r/seduction10/12/11 09:02 PM
3

AFC stands for average frustrated chump.
/r/seduction10/12/11 06:46 PM
3

AFC stands for average frustrated chump. FR stands for field report. You can read what all the acronyms are if you click the links in the sidebar.
/r/seduction10/12/11 06:46 PM
2

Haha. Thanks man.
/r/seduction10/12/11 06:40 PM
1

Thanks man!
/r/seduction10/12/11 05:58 PM
2

For me, sarging is therapeutic.
/r/seduction10/12/11 05:56 PM
1

Go sarging. It's therapeutic! Seriously.
/r/seduction10/12/11 05:56 PM
3

It's incredible how happy you can become by making other people happy. I thank girls for telling me they have boyfriends. They are shocked by this, because usually guys get upset when they hear this. Honestly, they are nice enough to tell me not to waste my time, and they obviously care about their boyfriends. Why try to ruin a good thing or get upset over something great that two people have? Abundance mentality means there are tonnes of other girls out there waiting to be opened by you, and so…
/r/seduction10/12/11 05:51 PM
2

Haha! I didn't want to write "F close", because I care about this girl, and saying I got an F close just sounded a little cheap to me.
/r/seduction10/12/11 05:47 PM
1

I don't know why you are getting downvoted. My points are from my own experience and are by no means complete nor universal. Many people say assume attraction, and this works based on numerous other field reports. It's just not something I particularly have used to help me improve. Do what works for you and keep on improving!
/r/seduction10/12/11 05:45 PM
2

Thanks man.
/r/seduction10/12/11 05:42 PM
1

Thanks man. These are all from my experience. It's by no means complete nor universally applicable, but it's all stuff that's made it work for me.
/r/seduction10/12/11 05:38 PM
1

Thanks man.
/r/seduction10/12/11 05:37 PM
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Yes! This is why "nice guys" suck in my opinion. They're not honest with themselves and think if they act a certain way and do certain things, they'll get the girl they have oneitis for. Disney movies and romantic comedies program bad information into our heads about attracting women.
/r/seduction10/12/11 05:34 PM
2

Thank you for the kind words.
/r/seduction10/12/11 05:30 PM
2

I think it'll take a while to get over your girlfriend. However, sarging helps, A LOT. To me, sarging is more therapeutic than anything else, whether it's getting over oneitis, relieving stress, having fun, building self-confidence, etc.
/r/seduction10/12/11 05:30 PM
5

Thanks man. You can do it!
/r/seduction10/12/11 05:28 PM
4

Hahaha! You know what? I'm actually not THAT afraid of breaking up with her. Of course, it will suck if it happens. I'll be sad. But truth be told, I got LMR'd twice, and was getting frustrated because I either wanted to get laid or start sarging again and not be stuck in limbo. She was giving me a little bad behavior yesterday, so I started ignoring her and started having a good time interacting with her friends. She changed her attitude pretty quick when she realized I didn't need her in order…
/r/seduction10/12/11 05:21 PM
6

With hugs, don't go all the way. Walk up, stretch your arms out like you're going to give a big bear hug and give a smile. If your frame is strong enough she will reciprocate, and you will hug each other, not just you hugging a passive girl.
/r/seduction10/12/11 02:30 AM
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Why haven't you done all of these things? Do some self reflection. Figure this out for yourself. Are you scared of something? Someone? Religion? Conflicting values? Not knowing how to be a man? Figure this out and figure out how everything from this point onward will be different.
/r/seduction09/12/11 12:12 AM
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I believe electronPUA just posted an FR where he denied a girl he was interested in friendship, and she realized that he would only spend time with her if she allowed herself to be more than friends, otherwise it was over. She decided to become more than friends.
/r/seduction08/12/11 07:37 AM
2

Agree, please give more details!
/r/seduction08/12/11 07:35 AM
2

Personally, I've managed to change myself by going in baby steps and not try to do too much at once.
/r/seduction08/12/11 12:46 AM
5

You sound too serious. Start becoming fun and funny.
/r/seduction07/12/11 12:30 AM
1

I don't like this.
/r/seduction06/12/11 04:07 PM
1

"How to talk to anyone" by Leil Lowndes. Read it.
/r/seduction06/12/11 09:47 AM
1

This reminds me of people who stick by the Mystery method verbatim.
/r/seduction06/12/11 09:46 AM
1

If she's into you, she will stop walking at the point where you have to part ways, which means you have more than 5 minutes to chat. Anyway, five minutes is enough for a number close, but a bit more time is better. You don't have to setup a date. Just get her number, figure shit out, and call her with a plan, but don't just ask her out as soon as you call her. Talk to her, connect on something that you have in common or something that you find interesting about here. Tell her you want to continu…
/r/seduction06/12/11 09:45 AM
1

MOVE THEM AROUND.
/r/seduction06/12/11 09:25 AM
2

Don't get oneitis.
/r/seduction06/12/11 09:12 AM
9

How to hold her hand: Stop whatever you are doing be it walking, eating, etc. Smile, and hold your hand out to her palm up. If you've built up enough attraction, she'll take your hand, even if she's a bit nervous about it. Take it, squeeze it a couple times and ask her how she's doing. Let go after a few seconds. Repeat the holding your hand out thing later on and hold her hand for a bit longer, swinging it around or squeezing a little again. Eventually, she'll take your hand whenever you offer …
/r/seduction06/12/11 07:17 AM
1

I personally think it's wrong for two people to get married and not share the same name.
/r/MensRights05/12/11 11:23 PM
0

This is a bunch of keyboard jockey crap. I can't believe people upvote this shit.
/r/seduction05/12/11 08:25 AM
5

Just say, that it's awesome in a positive, matter-of-fact way. Then talk about yours.
/r/seduction03/12/11 09:09 PM
2

You should be more independent.
/r/seduction03/12/11 06:29 PM
7

I have found an attracted a cool girl(friend) just in time for Christmas due to this subreddit. This was my personal goal. This is after many, many openers, solo sarges, # closes, and dates over the past three months. I've chosen the girl I wanted, and not settled for the first one that would strip naked for me. I know that if she leaves or if I discover something about her I don't like, I don't have to put up with it and can go out and easily find tonnes more. It takes a while to improve, but i…
/r/seduction03/12/11 04:19 PM
2

Baby steps. Forget talking to girls for a second. Get there early and introduce yourself to the bouncers and bartenders. Approach guys and talk em up. Do this until you're comfortable with it.
/r/seduction03/12/11 04:13 PM
1

Caveman it: turn her around, push her down, face down with you sitting on her legs, then unhook it while kissing the side of her neck.
/r/seduction02/12/11 06:34 PM
2

Love is completely different from oneitis.
/r/seduction01/12/11 08:11 AM
1

Don't smother her. Wait a couple days and call when something you're doing reminds you of her. Wait until she sends a text or calls you. Don't be the only one initiating conversation.
/r/seduction01/12/11 04:02 AM
1

Sorry for the unclear sentence. It's good to call a girl to establish a connection. Texting doesn't really establish a connection, and tends to reduce attraction.
/r/seduction01/12/11 12:48 AM
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Firstly, you don't have a relationship with her. It sounds like this is a rare thing to happen to you, getting a girl attracted and getting her phone number. After you do this many more times, you'll realize it's not such a big deal. Don't get oneitis. To answer your questions: Don't text, call, if you want to develop a connection. Don't worry if she has a boyfriend. That's her problem, not yours. Take her on a tour of your favorite spots to hangout since she's coming to your turf. Pay for the f…
/r/seduction30/11/11 11:14 PM
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Thanks man. I'm sure this isn't my idea; I heard/read it somewhere randomly and tried it one night when I was feeling a little nervous about approaching. Girls are sensitive and will usually go awww if they're not bitches.
/r/seduction30/11/11 04:23 PM
1

Outcome independence. You should focus on approaching and having a good time. It may be that everyone you approach is married or are in serious relationships, which got me angry several field reports ago. It was stupid to get angry about something I couldn't control. My advice is don't try to get numbers. Try to have fun! The numbers and girls will come.
/r/seduction30/11/11 04:17 PM
1

I really doubt this will work. A girl saying hi to you is not an invitation for you to ask you out. It's an invitation to say hi. Don't expect anything else. If she's receptive, continue the conversation for 5-30 minutes, keeping it fun and light, and then ask her out with a purpose, such as you're doing something fun and want her to join, or that you want to continue the conversation, etc. Use kino. Don't admit to eye-stalking her.
/r/seduction29/11/11 10:21 PM
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Have you ever tried to open someone by talking about approach anxiety? It's pretty fun/honest. Go up and ask a girl if she's ever seen a hot guy she wanted to talk to, but was scared because she didn't know what to say or how the guy would react. Then admit that you get approach anxiety too, but that you have to take chances in life, etc.
/r/seduction29/11/11 10:13 PM
1

Okay, thank you for the replies.
/r/seduction29/11/11 06:25 PM
2

How to talk to anyone by Leil Lowndes. Saved my life. It's easy to read and easy to remember the techniques.
/r/seduction29/11/11 04:22 PM
4

Hey, I just asked this last week and many people commented. Here you go! http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/mn8v9/movie_recommendations_for_transitioning_to_sex/
/r/seduction29/11/11 04:20 PM
3

This is exactly why I like cody_au, he's an oldschooler that speaks the truth, even if he writes like an asshole. It needs to be said for crap like this post.
/r/seduction29/11/11 04:15 PM
10

NO NO NO This is completely false! I've been an excellent conversationalist in business, networking, and socializing in general for the past 10 years. It has not gotten me girls. My success over the past three months has definitely stemmed from my core, which means I use my conversation skills in pickup, but I've had to actively change the nature of my conversation when it comes to game. This post is extremely misleading, especially since it doesn't even talk about the physical aspect of pickup …
/r/seduction29/11/11 04:13 PM
1

Yes, I'm definitely a recovering AFC. Thanks for the reply. I've cooled things off with her a bit, and this has helped me start thinking straight. I'm introducing her to more of my friends and life, and I'll try one more time, but if she can't make up her mind, she's gone unless she wants to truly get closer.
/r/seduction29/11/11 04:06 PM
1

Seriously, thanks for your response.
/r/seduction29/11/11 08:09 AM
1

Does that mean he's a guy they want to hook up with, or that the guy is the type to try and get a ONS?
/r/seduction29/11/11 07:52 AM
1

Is a cheese call an actual phone call or a synonym for a ONS?
/r/seduction29/11/11 06:54 AM
1

I've been seeing her for about 5-6 weeks now, and we've hung out over 10 times. I do believe I established good emotions, trust, and physical attraction. I do want her, sexually, but she's really cool, i.e. she gels really well with all my friends.
/r/seduction29/11/11 06:37 AM
1

I think you're right. At the very least, having other girls on the side will keep my AFC away from my interactions with this girl.
/r/seduction29/11/11 06:35 AM
1

Thank you VERY much!
/r/seduction29/11/11 06:34 AM
1

No, I think I wrote my post poorly. She stayed and cuddled for about an hour before she left. I don't know if she came or not, and I'm completely inept at pleasing girls down there (no experience really).
/r/seduction29/11/11 06:34 AM
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Ahhh, okay, thank you. I freaked out with ARealSocialRetard's warning. You're right. Anyway, I planned a non-sexual hangout today, and it went well. She drove 30 mins out of her way to hang out for a few hours. I'll re-engage again, and I think I will start talking to the girl I closed today.
/r/seduction29/11/11 06:33 AM
2

I don't have major oneitis, but did have it while writing this post. Number closing a random girl today helped me re-see the light. Anyway, the reason I like this girl is that we share similar values (non-judgmental), she's fun to go out drinking with, and she gels with my friends well. I've gotten with hotter girls than her, but they were airheads or screwballs. She's also cooked meals for me, and bought me drinks at the bar. I think she's only treating me like a doormat except when it comes to…
/r/seduction29/11/11 06:29 AM
2

Thanks. Is this a LMR killer or nexting? I don't have a problem dropping this girl; I have a few old contacts and a new number close from today, but I'd rather kill the LMR, because the girl is pretty cool and I'd like to establish an LTR. Edit: She didn't leave right after. We cuddled and hung out for a good hour after.
/r/seduction29/11/11 12:11 AM
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Thanks frogma, reading your comment put me at ease. Could you comment on my other thread? http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/msf0v/antislut_defense_again_fml_please_help_me_im/
/r/seduction28/11/11 11:13 PM
1

Unfortunately I've already told her that I cut it off with a couple girls I was seeing. I told her that I went on a couple dates the weekend I went on a date with her as an explanation for why I thought her parents lived in a particular city. I'll keep this in mind when potential LTRs happen with me again. LTR kill count made me lol.
/r/seduction28/11/11 10:31 PM
1

I've qualified her a lot with things unique to her personality and outlook on life, all of them brutally honest from my heart, from silly little things to pretty deep/serious things. She's done the same to me. I've told her when I don't like something never feeling the need to change myself or opinion because of her. She's done the same to me. I guess maybe it means I need more patience and to not freak out. I really wanted to call her yesterday to make sure she wasn't losing interest, but I sto…
/r/seduction28/11/11 09:50 PM
1

Thanks. This happened to me yesterday.
/r/seduction28/11/11 09:41 PM
1

Damn, okay. I was just being honest when I said that. I wasn't really thinking about how she might react. What should I say/do in the future when she does this again? I'm almost ready and waiting for it to happen again.
/r/seduction28/11/11 09:30 PM
4

I don't want to just hook up with girls. I want a girlfriend. Thanks for your advice.
/r/seduction28/11/11 09:28 PM
1

Be honest! Tell her that you think she told you, but you forgot. Ask her to tell you again.
/r/seduction28/11/11 02:43 AM
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It's okay to tell your date that you've taken other girls out before. Honesty is awesome. If you come from the vantage point of choosing women rather than settling for the first one that comes to you, the woman you are with will like you more for choosing her (or will try harder to impress you if it's a first date).
/r/seduction27/11/11 06:02 PM
3

Be honest with yourself and everyone you speak to.
/r/seduction27/11/11 02:19 AM
3

Hey, just wanted to thank you. Kept doing what I was doing, and she literally begged me to fuck. I told her that I knew, and told her we'd have to wait (bad logistics (my brother and sister are visiting me)), and I want it to be special (I'm a fucking romantic and can't help it!), I didn't tell her the second reason, but I'll blow her mind. She's girlfriend material.
/r/seduction26/11/11 04:42 PM
1

I want her to be my girlfriend. She is really into me and very affectionate, physically. She tells me she likes me while making out. This is the only hiccup I've had the entire way. I feel great about it all. I'm the leader in the 50-50 relationship. I've opened sets in front of her (for my friends), and have told her about going on dates with other women (who were all crazy(truth)) as a way of qualifying her. I don't hink I have oneitis, but I do like her (she has similar values as me). I have …
/r/seduction25/11/11 04:22 AM
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Thanks for your analysis. I'm a recovering AFC, and this is literally the first time I have gotten this far with a girl in my life, so I don't have any experience...only stuff I've read. A bit more info: I've gone on a few dates with this girl and have thoroughly impressed her friends (her words not mine). I've basically done everything right with this girl, from building attraction, comfort, kino escalation, and uniquely qualifying her. You're comment put it in perspective...just don't freak ou…
/r/seduction24/11/11 06:49 PM
5

One person once said, "Hey, you know what's up. I want that girl right there, so help me generate some social value so she notices us." I asked him why he was being so weird, and said if he wanted to talk to the girl, he should just go and talk to her. Without thinking about it, I made an about face and opened the girl and her set with pretty good success. He never mentioned game to me after this.
/r/seduction24/11/11 04:10 AM
2

As a baby step away from this habit you can put your thumbs in your pockets and keep your hands out. It doesn't look nearly as bad.
/r/seduction21/11/11 03:35 PM
1

Completely agree. I had my doubts when I first started. Keep it up (IN REAL LIFE), and change will happen.
/r/seduction21/11/11 12:40 AM
35

Loves mascara and eyeliner. God bless you.
/r/seduction20/11/11 07:01 PM
3

It's not necessary to have your life in order, but it can help a lot for many people.
/r/seduction20/11/11 05:34 PM
1

I didn't mean to offend you. But really, it's not the douchebaggery that women find attractive in and of itself. Rather, some of the attitude/actions of douchebags is what women find attractive, which is noticeably lacking with nice guys. Gentlemen are neither douchebags nor nice guys.
/r/seduction20/11/11 05:32 PM
2

You did well. You're exactly right about exposure. I challenge you to go out by yourself 5 more times and try to approach. It might not even take you 5 times to realize it's not a big deal to be by yourself and talk to random people. You can expect people to say "Hi" to you, but you can't expect people to like you. Outcome independence! Keep it up man.
/r/seduction19/11/11 06:12 PM
4

Ahhh, I wasn't clear. Sorries!
/r/seduction19/11/11 04:43 PM
3

Nice. But what happened in the bar? No approaches?
/r/seduction19/11/11 09:01 AM
6

You're completely wrong. There is a lot of good stuff to learn from jerks/douchebags, but that doesn't mean you have to become one to be good with women.
/r/seduction19/11/11 08:32 AM
2

The reason I ask is that if you think you're a 7, you'll act like a 7. If you think you're a 2, you'll act like a 2. Although many people on seddit don't follow this, the HB scale is not absolute. In some contexts a girl is a 10 and in others, she is a 5. I believe if you ratchet up your inner game to the point where you believe you are a 10 and combine this with the gym, good fashion (which you already have), and body language, you'll get better at attracting 10's.
/r/seduction19/11/11 07:38 AM
1

I believe you are correct. A kid who expects nothing on Christmas and receives a gift is much happier than a kid who expects a give on Christmas and receives a gift.
/r/seduction19/11/11 07:34 AM
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No they don't. The tried and true PUAs give you step by step instructions on how to be good with women.
/r/seduction19/11/11 07:32 AM
1

On a scale of 1-10 how attractive would you say you are?
/r/seduction19/11/11 02:20 AM
1

Actually, it's a large part of why humanity even exists.
/r/seduction19/11/11 02:13 AM
3

Harden the fuck up.
/r/seduction19/11/11 02:12 AM
3

I would say listening to the people who have gone through it naturally (many early PUAs) is probably easier than trying to figure it out yourself without any guidance.
/r/seduction19/11/11 01:46 AM
2

As cool as this sounds. This just isn't right. I'd be a bit thrilled and turned on by it, but also a bit creeped out.
/r/seduction19/11/11 01:39 AM
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And the world is full of guys who want to get laid and can't.
/r/seduction18/11/11 05:19 PM
2

realize this will happen with at least 4 out of 5 phone numbers. It's not that simple. The length of the interaction and amount of attraction generated are positively correlated with the girl replying.
/r/seduction17/11/11 07:54 AM
1

Exhilarating, right?
/r/seduction17/11/11 05:30 AM
1

Yeap! While I prefer something situational, a simple "Hey! How's your night going?" with the right body language and attitude is fairly "foolproof".
/r/seduction17/11/11 05:01 AM
2

Simplify your life: get rid of all the alter-egos you have in front of different people, and just be one person. Obviously, you must respect decorum with different people, but don't lose your identity.
/r/seduction16/11/11 09:03 AM
1

Personally, I think the causation goes the other way.
/r/seduction16/11/11 06:55 AM
1

Where was I whining?
/r/seduction15/11/11 08:07 PM
1

Well, you've been meeting the wrong kind of men. You need to meet gentlemen. You know, the charming, funny, respectable guys who also have balls of steel, a solid personality, and a great sex drive? Anyway, this is my frame and state when I go out to the bars and clubs: http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/kiwx1/my_son_running_to_the_swingset_dad_theres_new/ Kids have it right initially. And then they get programmed by bad experiences, adults ('never talk to a stranger!'), etc, that all of this…
/r/seduction15/11/11 06:58 PM
1

Did you not read what I wrote? Touching people on the arm, elbow, shoulder, and upper back is completely fine. I mean touch, lightly and for no more than two seconds, not grab. This combined simultaneously with a bit of eye contact, a smile, and an opener is completely normal, natural and human. Prolonged touch at the start is super creepy. I'm talking about the type of touch to literally getting someone's attention. If they are down, happy, smiling, and laughing, I'll then start giving them hig…
/r/seduction15/11/11 06:31 PM
1

Hey. Your mom's boobies don't count!
/r/seduction15/11/11 06:19 PM
1

It's not rude at all, because many people enjoy it. In fact, most of the 300+ people I have opened over the past two months, have been receptive to it. Like I said earlier, all women are different, and so taking pickup advice from one woman is usually very unhelpful, because you are on the receiving end of it and can only speak from your perspective and values, not how women respond in general. I have no idea if you are one of the rare people that doesn't like it, and you can't fault me for not …
/r/seduction15/11/11 06:14 PM
2

She can have whatever standards she wants. It's just when a woman generalizes her experience to every other woman's experience that it becomes a problem. This is why I don't listen to women when I get pickup advice.
/r/seduction15/11/11 03:19 PM
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Honestly, she has the right to have whatever standards she wants. It's just when a woman generalizes her experience to every other woman's that it becomes a problem. This is why I don't listen to women when I get pickup advice.
/r/seduction15/11/11 03:16 PM
2

This is exactly why I don't take advice on how to pick up girls from girls. You are generalizing your experience to everyone else's. If you don't like to be touched right away, that is completely acceptable, for you. But for the general population, touching is generally a wonderful thing. Anyway, you have made me realize one thing, and I'm going to write a separate post about it.
/r/seduction15/11/11 03:14 PM
1

Do you like to travel? (if she says no, it's a dealbreaker for me) If you could go anywhere, where would you go? Why? Followup with where you'd go, and talk about places you've been.
/r/seduction15/11/11 07:26 AM
3

Nope. You are completely wrong. I often open people by touching them first, then catching their eyes, then smiling, and then saying something. You can definitely talk to them first and then start touching, but it's not required. I used to have the same mentality, that it's wrong to touch people without asking or speaking to them, but it's a bunch of garbage.
/r/seduction15/11/11 06:45 AM
3

Completely disagree. This is one hurdle I've had to get over. Touching people on the arm, elbow, shoulder, and upper back is completely fine. I mean touch, lightly and for no more than two seconds, not grab. This combined simultaneously with a bit of eye contact, a smile, and an opener is completely normal, natural and human.
/r/seduction15/11/11 06:06 AM
1

Yeap! This was a couple months ago. No smiling or eye contact on my part. This was awful.
/r/seduction15/11/11 06:04 AM
6

Once I went up to a girl on the dance floor and gently took her arms. She shoved me away really hard. Another time, I approached two girls and asked how their night was going. One of them said with a complete bitch face, "Who the fuck are you!"
/r/seduction15/11/11 02:58 AM
3

What do you mean by "fucked up with"? Please give a bit more detail.
/r/seduction14/11/11 10:11 PM
1

Demonstrating sexual intent in a fun and funny way is what makes women attracted. But you can't control how she reacts. You could do the same exact thing to 100 women and maybe only a few of them would be receptive to it. Pickup helps you ratchet up the probability of women being receptive to your advances compared to the average frustrated chump. It also teaches you how to not let negative reactions phase you and to keep going.
/r/seduction13/11/11 10:48 PM
2

It doesn't matter at all! And nobody is ugly if they fix themselves up a bit (gym+clothes)! And short girls like short guys! My former AFC self used these as excuses for why girls wouldn't like me.
/r/seduction13/11/11 10:04 PM
2

Thanks man. She was taken aback initially when I started talking to the other girls, but gave me a big hug when she realized what I was doing.
/r/seduction13/11/11 07:36 PM
24

Remember to amuse yourself first, and everyone else second.
/r/seduction13/11/11 03:21 AM
2

Haha! I love this. You're fun and funny.
/r/seduction13/11/11 02:43 AM
1

I've read a few PUA books.... Do something instead of reading.
/r/seduction12/11/11 12:35 AM
3

You have to give credit properly. Looking at the article without clicking the link, one would not get the impression that it was pure copypasta. It's sleazy.
/r/seduction12/11/11 12:13 AM
1

Chiquita
/r/seduction11/11/11 06:15 PM
2

That's plagiarism. What a dirtbag.
/r/seduction11/11/11 07:53 AM
4

Here's one I like: http://www.theipo.org/i/bTyGgp.jpg .
/r/seduction10/11/11 04:21 AM
1

My point is it doesn't matter what she thinks.
/r/seduction10/11/11 04:14 AM
3

You answered my question. You're not being creepy. Just keep doing it, and work on getting a higher percentage of positive reactions.
/r/seduction09/11/11 11:26 PM
1

He is always so self-amused, even in soliloquy's. Amazing.
/r/seduction09/11/11 09:20 PM
2

How do the people react to you smiling and saying hi?
/r/seduction09/11/11 09:15 PM
3

Women are generally bad at giving advice on how to seduce them. This isn't misogynistic, but a matter of fact. Someone on the receiving end of seduction can't hope to give a guy advice on how to be successful with women in general, only herself. A man who demonstrates success with all sorts of different women can. This article is mostly generic and does have some interesting references, but the fact she is a heterosexual woman writing on seduction makes me disregard her opinion. I'm not sexist, …
/r/seduction09/11/11 06:28 PM
1

I came here hoping to learn a field tested alley trick....
/r/seduction09/11/11 05:58 PM
1

"I know." One of my default responses.
/r/seduction09/11/11 07:43 AM
3

Agree. I converse with boring interview questions, albeit in a fun way. This is a great way to make any question more fun. Thanks man.
/r/seduction09/11/11 07:42 AM
80

Protip: Start making "we" statements yourself. Source: Leil Lowndes
/r/seduction09/11/11 04:03 AM
9

This isn't a shit test. It's flirting.
/r/seduction09/11/11 03:52 AM
2

Why does this bother me so much? Because you have oneitis.
/r/seduction09/11/11 03:38 AM
1

Online, people are pickier than in real life, not just about race, but height, age, income, religion, etc. Get offline and get into the real world. If Matador and Jeremy Soul can do it, so can you. Not everyone is 6 feet tall, with a six pack, perfect hair, intelligent, etc. Play the cards your dealt.
/r/seduction08/11/11 07:38 AM
4

I never lie or deceive. NEVER NEVER. All my routines are mostly things I've come up with on my own, and the stuff I've borrowed is so generic, I could have come up with it on my own given enough time. All my stories are my own real life stories. My default opener is usually something situational or a simple "Hey! How's your day going?". My conversational material consists of boring interview questions.
/r/seduction08/11/11 07:15 AM
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I want to find my soulmate and raise a family, eventually. Seduction is giving me the power to find, choose, and attract that awesome woman. I also believe the things seduction teaches me will help keep this awesome woman (and myself) happy for life.
/r/seduction08/11/11 04:16 AM
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PUAs have been talking about jerks for ages, and some PUAs are jerks. Paraphrasing David D.: Jerks might not be what one should aspire to be, but there are a lot of good things you can learn from them. And yes, jerks incredibly manage to have residual women knocking down their doors. Sorry for the confusion. cody_au's comment was in response to a post that I made a while back. My post was similar to yours. If he sees this, I'm sure he could provide better insight, but the point I believe he was …
/r/seduction07/11/11 07:51 PM
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I disagree after reading cody_au's comment. Some of the most selfish, broke, vile people on Earth get tonnes of high quality women and even get into long term relationships with them, often many at the same time. Why? I think for the same exact reason good guy Greg's get tonnes of women. I believe there is a dark side and light side of seduction. The light side is definitely the prevalent one on seddit, but I do think there is something deeper beneath the getting-your-life-in-order that makes yo…
/r/seduction07/11/11 06:47 PM
1

I completely agree.
/r/seduction07/11/11 05:38 PM
1

Yep!
/r/seduction07/11/11 05:35 PM
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I speak from my own experience. I am a (recovering) AFC. When I talked to girls, I would smile a lot, usually because I had the attention of a girl, was giddy, and wanted to show agreeableness. Mystery has a great imitation of this on David DeAngelo's body language DVD series, but I can't find a video online.
/r/seduction07/11/11 07:01 AM
1

You should bold this in your post.
/r/seduction07/11/11 05:27 AM
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Thank you for posting this.
/r/seduction07/11/11 05:24 AM
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Do three things: something artistic, something athletic, and something for the community.
/r/seduction07/11/11 04:29 AM
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Judging from your title/post, I would disagree with your first sentence. Anyway, one of my good buddy's friends does this to me as well, to the point of coming to see me play saxophone without her boyfriend. But I treat her like just another buddy and also DHV her boyfriend when she does interact with me. These two things seem to keep everything in check for me.
/r/seduction06/11/11 06:48 PM
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This is a great thing to do. Say, hi, (good) morning, (good) afternoon, or (good) evening with people on the street. Baby steps!
/r/seduction06/11/11 05:12 PM
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You are not used to girls flirting with you and showing interest. You think it's a super special event when a girl, any girl, even your friend's girl shows interest. It's not. You're just not used to it. I know, because I am a (recovering) AFC and have definitely been there before. When you realize that tonnes of girls will show interest exactly the same way Lisa is showing it to you, you'll realize it's not that super special, but it's still fun!
/r/seduction06/11/11 04:56 PM
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Go practice your seduction skills on more people, get over your oneitis, and keep the friends you have. Also, going after a buddy's girl is one of the worst sins of bro-code a guy can commit, even if his friend is an AFC and the girl is super hot.
/r/seduction06/11/11 06:49 AM
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I think reminding ourselves about it (from a different perspective) may be a better way to put it.
/r/seduction04/11/11 11:21 PM
1

Congrats! Learn how to control your alcohol, or at least be able to control when you want to control your alcohol or not =P.
/r/seduction04/11/11 11:13 PM
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Unfortunately, it may be more imbedded into us than one would hope. Psychologists have a term for oneitis, called limerence. We discussed it a couple months ago: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/k8q3n/til_oneitus_has_actually_been_researched_and/
/r/seduction04/11/11 03:53 PM
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This article is garbage in my opinion. It's most likely the case that the guys approaching the women weren't interesting or weren't the kind of guys the women wanted to meet. It also seems like the guys approaching them were AFC's who can't take no for an answer, and hence the woman's impetus for writing this article in the first place. It's crap to think that people can turn meeting-new-dates time and friend-time on and off like a light switch. I've heard it too many times that a girl isn't jus…
/r/seduction03/11/11 10:30 PM
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Nice username.
/r/seduction03/11/11 05:56 AM
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The academic in me wants to agree, and your advice is good. I will keep this in mind; however, sometimes it's good to be a little sloppy, at least for me. To me, texting is the new instant messaging.
/r/seduction03/11/11 05:54 AM
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Thanks for the advice. I will do this. However, the point is the difference between "Would you like to come with me to a party Saturday?" vs "Would you like to come with me to a party Saturday"
/r/seduction03/11/11 05:51 AM
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Fellow musician here! I asked the same question a while ago: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/l8qoe/hey_seddit_what_is_the_best_way_to_accept/c2qq4ym . Maybe you'll find the comments helpful.
/r/seduction02/11/11 06:21 AM
1

Have you used this before? How well does it work? How do you get their attention if they can't hear you?
/r/seduction02/11/11 05:41 AM
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Some of Krauser PUA videos are great for daygame, start to close: http://krauserpua.com/ . Unfortunately, he's in Europe. I'd like the same type of thing, but for the U.S. And please don't suggest simple pickup. They are fun, and I like them a lot, but the highly edited videos leave out a lot of the important content.
/r/seduction02/11/11 01:31 AM
1

Your good friends are the ones who help you when you need help.
/r/seduction01/11/11 06:26 PM
2

Cool! I learned something today. Thanks.
/r/seduction01/11/11 06:22 PM
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For me, chugging a boatload of caffeine is generally a bad thing. It's artificial and not good for my health. Sure, I'll feel great for a couple hours, but when the crash starts, I feel even shittier than I did without the caffeine. I use a little coffee in the morning to wake up and work out. On occasion I'll drink a little tea before going out, but I don't really recommend using caffeine as a fix for your state.
/r/seduction01/11/11 06:21 PM
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I still say "Good Morning!", "Afternoon!" or "Evening!" to them. They usually hear me anyway and often will smile and/or reciprocate.
/r/seduction01/11/11 07:13 AM
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I don't know. For me, if I need to get my mind out of the past or future and into the present, a cold shower really does the trick. I think it gives you an adrenaline rush. Afterwards everything looks brighter and my mind has stopped thinking about random stuff and is just focused on what I'm doing.
/r/seduction01/11/11 06:31 AM
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Oh, well, I guess our styles are different. It seems to work for me. Happy birthday, btw!
/r/seduction31/10/11 07:07 PM
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Added it to the list. Thanks man.
/r/seduction31/10/11 04:43 PM
1

How do you know that? I've done this tons of times. Do what works for you.
/r/seduction31/10/11 04:42 PM
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This is interesting. I haven't thought about this. Everything I've written comes a little bit from game material, but mostly my own experience. I'll keep this in mind, especially the next time I have unplanned socializing to do where I'm generally not in a talky mood.
/r/seduction31/10/11 03:25 PM
1

Thanks man.
/r/seduction31/10/11 05:23 AM
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Thanks man. While I definitely think the second approach is far superior, I'm not against the first approach. They're just different.
/r/seduction31/10/11 05:13 AM
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Ahh, this is good. I'm going to add it to the first list.
/r/seduction31/10/11 05:07 AM
2

What does this have to do with seduction?
/r/seduction30/10/11 09:14 PM
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I believe the general opinion/evidence is mixed.
/r/seduction30/10/11 09:12 PM
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This is poorly written and doesn't really provide any details for people to help you. Add some more detail on how the interaction went down.
/r/seduction29/10/11 05:55 PM
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One of my personal default responses is, "Exactly." I think it would be a funny response to, "I don't know..."?
/r/seduction29/10/11 01:47 AM
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Mystery says that happiness comes from survival and replication. I feel this is spot on, but that there is a another source of happiness, which is on a higher plane of existence, but I can't really articulate what I mean at this point.
/r/seduction27/10/11 06:55 AM
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wouldn't you try a little harder with someone you're interested in? In my opinion, this is why AFC's get oneitis.
/r/seduction27/10/11 06:13 AM
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Thanks a ton! I think I'm going to try waving first, and keep this in the back of my mind if I get a positive reaction.
/r/seduction27/10/11 02:03 AM
2

Dont forget to have a good time regardless of the outcome of your interactions! Everything will get better if you keep at it.
/r/seduction26/10/11 04:02 PM
2

Hey, could you describe in further detail this heart shape thing? Do you do it while walking? Do you turn and face them? How long does the whole thing take? I'm totally going to do this. Thank you!
/r/seduction26/10/11 02:53 AM
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I'm a professional musician, and it's pretty lame when people don't want to pay for live music, but it's also lame for musicians to expect to be paid when they agreed to work for free. Think a little bigger though...you could have turned the lead singer into a friend, and recruited him to be your best wingman. Be a giver, to everyone.
/r/seduction25/10/11 11:30 PM
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This is awesome.
/r/seduction25/10/11 11:07 PM
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I have a related question: What is a good way to number/kiss close multiple girls at a party like this, when everyone sees what everyone else is doing? Just like at a bar? It seems like it'd be a bit more tacky at a party.
/r/seduction25/10/11 06:54 AM
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Stop thinking. Your brain is whizzing way too fast. You know how sometimes you are able to idly do things without thinking, such as cleaning the dishes, folding laundry, brushing your teeth, etc? This is where you need to keep your mind, just focused on the task at hand instead of thinking at higher levels of perspective. Do you practice getting into "state"? There are a lot of things you can do, mentally and physically to get your mind and attitude where it ought to be when you go out.
/r/seduction25/10/11 06:50 AM
2

Do you write for Cliff's list?
/r/seduction24/10/11 07:30 AM
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I really like this.
/r/seduction24/10/11 05:26 AM
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Oneitis is everyone's problem. I think it stems from the fact that many guys aren't used to receiving positive sexual energy from a woman, so that when it does happen, either by luck or as they improve their game, they think it's some special event that doesn't happen all the time and completely change their behavior and outlook on life. I just had a few dates over the past few days, and I'm not satisfied. I want to get more girls! This is a first in my life.
/r/seduction24/10/11 05:14 AM
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Thanks, but did you not read my post? EDIT: Thank you. This is what I need. Examples and examples. You nailed it with logistics. I had a Day 2 with another girl today, and almost no kino, other than hugging. I tried to sit next to her, but the table was really big. I completely hear you on the dancing. I was dancing with a horny girl yesterday. I could have had my first kiss close, but I did not want to kiss her. In retrospect, I should have kissed her anyway, at least a peck. Ahh well. Kino, da…
/r/seduction24/10/11 12:48 AM
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Do not waste your "new" time! You have a window of about six months to claim you are new. This is the best time not only to open tonnes of random people and pick who will be your friends, but also to reinvent yourself and grow. Solo-sarging can at times awkward when people say, "So are you just here by yourself or what?" Usually, I'll say I'm waiting to see if my friends will show up. Sometimes, I flatly say, that I hit the bars as stress-relief, and none of my friends wanted to come out. But sa…
/r/seduction24/10/11 12:46 AM
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Agree.
/r/seduction23/10/11 07:32 AM
1

Great advice man. Do you know of any videos demonstrating this?
/r/seduction23/10/11 04:15 AM
2

So, when are you free?" Her: "The whole weekend." She wants you bad. Great FR. I'm curious...how tall/attractive would you say you are?
/r/seduction23/10/11 03:17 AM
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No, that's mean. Alluding to other girls are trying to get you, however, is way different, especially regarding girls in the past.
/r/seduction23/10/11 03:07 AM
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Just some advice from a person who used to socialize before he had a cell phone (YEARS AGO)...your brain has the ability to remember a sequence of 10 numbers if you try hard enough. In fact, phone numbers are broken into groups of three and four to make them easier to remember. I still remember some of my best friends' phone numbers by memory.
/r/seduction23/10/11 03:02 AM
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"It was really just for fun & we were both having a ball with it. & continued with it walking around outside all the way up to 15. It was very funny for us & was said like they were Missing out on a great inside joke." I feel this explains not just the random counting opener, but your entire night. You were amusing yourselves, not other people.
/r/seduction23/10/11 02:31 AM
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This is not a fail. This is a success. Now, keep at it!
/r/seduction23/10/11 01:33 AM
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Say hi to people on the street, constantly, no matter who they are. I've been doing this for about 6 weeks now and it's really easy for me to put a smile on people's faces. I don't even consciously think about doing it anymore. This is what I do (from a FR): I've spent literally everyday over the past month saying hi to dozens of people on the street while I walk to and from the gym. At first I was scared, and I'd only get a reaction half the time, and usually not a positive one. Nowadays, I'm p…
/r/seduction22/10/11 04:39 PM
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Yeap. Ideally, it shouldn't matter, but practically speaking, it still does.
/r/seduction22/10/11 04:25 PM
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I hate to say it man, but you sound like someone who hasn't actually gone out very often. And if you have, you haven't actually interacted with girls very often. AKA, Keyboard Jockey. I welcome avoiceformen to post some field reports demonstrating how the three point advice works, or to stop writing this garbage.
/r/MensRights20/10/11 10:34 PM
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I keep a log book right here by posting on seddit. All my comments and posts, easily accessible anywhere I can get online.
/r/seduction20/10/11 05:24 AM
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I can't offer any advice. I just wanted to say that it's okay, and don't lose heart. Keep learning and working at it man.
/r/seduction20/10/11 04:58 AM
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PLEASE. Someone comment on what he probably did wrong? Talking too much without any kino? No sexual communication? What do you think?
/r/seduction19/10/11 04:14 PM
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It's an interesting article dealing with an advanced topic. However, I'm completely with you. For now, I don't really try too much if someone gives me a cold/mean response.
/r/seduction19/10/11 07:26 AM
1

Also, remember to vote up or down depending on whether you think this is a good post to seddit or not.
/r/seduction19/10/11 07:22 AM
1

I remember that Miami was one of Mystery's favorite places to game.
/r/seduction18/10/11 05:01 AM
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Ahhhh, at least you GOT the number back. I did the same exact thing a few nights ago, and my one chance for getting the number has failed. Good FR.
/r/seduction18/10/11 04:59 AM
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I believe you know way too little about her to want a LTR with her. I'm going to take a guess, but I really don't think she's your type. What I think is that you got the attention of a hot girl, which isn't as common a thing for you as you'd like, and because of this, you are putting her on a pedestal (SHE IS AN INNOCENT NICE GIRL) and trying to get something from her prematurely. This sounds familiar to me, because I am an AFC, and have done this a few times in the past myself. The more effort …
/r/seduction17/10/11 07:03 AM
1

What do you want with her?
/r/seduction17/10/11 06:17 AM
2

Hey man. I am an INFP. However, most people that know me today would never call me an introvert. I would like to say that I have changed permanently, although I still have many introvert qualities. For example, socializing drains me. I need to spend time alone after socializing. Sometimes my family thinks something is wrong when I'm in quiet mode, but the reality is that I just don't want to be speaking all the time. Also, I completely suck at talking when the socializing is unplanned (e.g. my f…
/r/seduction17/10/11 05:35 AM
2

The text to the dog-walker girl seemed a bit stupid. Firstly, no girl gave you her number at the club, and even if a girl did give you her number, what were you trying to accomplish by texting that? Otherwise, awesome FR man. My last FR, I got upset because so many of my friends are married and all I did during the night was run into married people. Reading your FR has inspired me to make the most of each moment whether or not there are single girls around.
/r/seduction17/10/11 02:45 AM
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Yes! It's pretty amazing. Parroting goes like this: Other person: "I just back from the grocery store." You: "You just got back from the grocery store." Other person: "Yeah, I realized I didn't have any onions." You: "Onions." Other person: "I need them for a a new stir fry recipe I read on Food Network." You: "Food Network." Other person: "You don't know what Food Network is? It's a channel on cable, but they also have a website with great recipes." If you don't think this works, just do it wit…
/r/seduction17/10/11 12:01 AM
1

I find solo sarging to almost be easier precisely because of this. Convincing myself to out solo isn't easy compared to when all my friends are asking me to go out. However, once I'm out, it's much easier to game when nobody is watching compared to when my friends are with me. My next sticking point is to game whenever my friends are with me. I feel I'll need an extra-resilient frame to deal with friends watching me and teasing me if I get blown out. Anyway, I've been practicing for about 6 week…
/r/seduction16/10/11 09:20 PM
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It helps anyone with conversational skills. I read it initially when I was a big introvert (I'm an INFP), and usually was a wallflower at social events. It saved my life. Almost all the things in the book apply to pickup and she even has a chapter on how to attract women/men. David DeAngelo interviewed her once as a part of his series on Double your Dating. One tip I often use is called parroting. When you don't know what to say, just repeat the last few words of what someone said to you. 9/10 t…
/r/seduction16/10/11 09:10 PM
1

I never read good info about the backstory. What I believe he did was go around asking random girls in Russia if he could touch their breasts as a part of a video. I don't think this has much to do with seduction.
/r/seduction16/10/11 06:43 PM
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I never read good info about the backstory. What I believe he did was go around asking random girls in Russia if he could touch their breasts as a part of a video. I don't think this has anything to do with seduction.
/r/seduction16/10/11 06:42 PM
2

To improve your conversation skills, I would strongly suggest you read "How to Talk to Anyone" by Leil Lowndes. It's a really easy quick read and super effective at improving your conversation skills.
/r/seduction16/10/11 06:04 PM
1

There are over 32,000 (and growing) sedditors. I don't think it's necessary to eliminate subseddits. In fact, I would support more sedditors subscribing to the other subseddits rather than locking them up and forcing it all into one place. Reddit is not a zero sum game, it's a buffet.
/r/seduction16/10/11 12:28 AM
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I think this one is relatively easy to explain. Before you were just another guy at the party who were all probably friends of the host. Later, you were a guy who is clearly good friends with one of the few girls there. Your value went up.
/r/seduction15/10/11 11:12 PM
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No, it stands for practicing PUA. I am the first to admit that I am an AFC. Read the sidebar link: http://www.reddit.com/r/sedditupgrade/comments/ldcs9/want_your_flair/ .
/r/seduction15/10/11 11:00 PM
1

Your confidence/cockiness is great. However, it seems like you should work on your humor and general bantering.
/r/seduction15/10/11 10:57 PM
1

I got it because I post field reports. I have posted 15 field reports over the past 6 weeks, and I'm proud of it. Post some yourself and you will get the flair too!
/r/seduction15/10/11 10:50 PM
1

A wise man once told me, "If you can be yourself in front of your parents, you can pretty much be yourself in front of anyone." Can you be the same person in front of your parents that you are when you are gaming?
/r/seduction15/10/11 10:29 PM
1

Yeah, I know. This is simply one more mistake that is getting ironed out in this whole learning process. Anyway, I'm going to message the friend soon.
/r/seduction15/10/11 10:06 PM
1

I am talking about sarging.... When I have a piss poor state trying to get outcomes, rejections sting, and I come off feeling like something is wrong with me. When I am exhilarated to the point where nobody can get me down and I just want others to share in my joy, rejections just bounce off of me, and I come off feeling like something is wrong with the other person (maybe they're just not having a good night or something).
/r/seduction15/10/11 10:00 PM
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Hey Mr. Tall Man, go for the tall girls. It's hard for them to find a man who's taller than them. They REALLY want you!
/r/seduction15/10/11 04:51 PM
2

A few FR's ago when I asked a girl for her number after talking to her for a few minutes, she said, "Hey, I have a boyfriend." Without a pause, I literally said, "Hey, thank you!" She said, "Nice...You joking, right?" And I flat out said, "No, I'm being completely serious right now. It's really nice of you to not let me waste my time. Stuff like that's happened to me in the past with girls not as honest as you. Does your friend have a boyfriend?" She said, "Umm, I don't know. Usually guys get an…
/r/seduction15/10/11 09:15 AM
2

Time to change the player, not the game. This is an awesome quote.
/r/seduction15/10/11 08:49 AM
1

I think rejection can hurt a lot and can hurt very little. If I am trying to qualify myself by getting positive reactions out of people, I know I am setting myself up to fail and hurt badly if things don't work out. However, if I have a solid frame, are completely happy without needing anyone or anything, and go and get rejected, it's more like a "huh?" than a "OMG I suck at life".
/r/seduction15/10/11 01:23 AM
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Yes it has. You just haven't noticed. Which is exciting, right?! Keep your eyes and ears perceptive.
/r/seduction14/10/11 05:10 PM
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I would suggest adding lip curling and smiling without the eyes as IODs.
/r/seduction14/10/11 05:09 PM
2

Dude, not cool. Take her picture down. Now.
/r/seduction14/10/11 03:08 PM
2

Several nights ago, I was shooting the shit with a random dude at a bar. A girl touched his ass as she walked past him. I said, "Dude, go for it!". He said, "No man, she has a boyfriend." I said, "Then she's the one who's going to get into trouble. Tap her ass!" Empowered by my words, she walked by and he tapped her butt. She looked back and smiled flirtily. He said, "Dude, you have changed my world." I don't know if anything more came of it, but to me, a girl touching you like that is as overt …
/r/seduction13/10/11 03:44 PM
1

Outcome independence. Make your goal the approach, not whether or not people react positively to it. Imagine the worst blowout possible and understand that even that is only temporary.
/r/seduction13/10/11 06:04 AM
1

Thank you! I know exactly what to say from now on. I really needed this. You rock.
/r/seduction13/10/11 06:00 AM
1

Not that relevant for college, but here's a go: bars, farmer's markets, grocery stores, and shopping malls.
/r/seduction13/10/11 05:45 AM
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Bantering with drunk people when you're sober is like playing dodgeball with toddlers. You get an extra 1-3 seconds of reaction time with drunk people. Source: My own experience in the field.
/r/seduction13/10/11 03:48 AM
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I can't believe nobody has said this yet. You need to interact with her, but more importantly her friend. Don't ask her out the way you wrote out. That can come across as being creepy as fuck unless maybe you are super hot. Introducing yourself, asking them what they think of the class, and talking about upcoming homework/exams is good stuff to start with. Once you've won her friend over, tell her that you think her friend is cute, and hope that she's okay with it. She will be your best wingwoma…
/r/seduction12/10/11 05:03 AM
1

Go to bars. Drink water. When you're at a bar, everyone is over 21, and there you go. Also, try going to grocery stores during the mornings on weekends. The people there are usually families and yuppies who have their shit together (i.e. not college kids).
/r/seduction12/10/11 04:46 AM
2

Help me please. Her: You're really good at the saxophone (happens all the time). What do I say?
/r/seduction11/10/11 11:59 PM
5

Depends on the context.
/r/seduction11/10/11 10:04 PM
2

I know. It's amazing how simple and correct he is.
/r/seduction11/10/11 09:19 PM
3

Just fixed it, thanks! The second link is personally my favorite.
/r/seduction11/10/11 09:18 PM
6

It is a bit confusing, but for me, letting go of outcomes determining my happiness seems to work at keeping more happy and successful. It may not be relevant for everyone. I just wanted to share with everyone else what has helped me.
/r/seduction11/10/11 07:10 PM
1

Some say that sarcasn is the lowest form of wit. An eaxample from literally 10 minutes ago: i accidentally sxanned my walgreens discount card when entering the gym. The front desk people said, "Hey yuj accidentally scanned your walgreens card.". I immediately said, "oh, do I get a discount?" this is witty in my opinion because it was a quick reaction, situational. The other day i took a girl out to a great hidden taco shop. I asked her how she liked he tacos and she said, "well they're almost go…
/r/seduction11/10/11 06:18 PM
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No problem man. Keep it up! When you do call, make sure you have a good reason for not going out, such as realizing you were pretty tired, or forgetting about some work you had to complete, etc. It could even be, "Hey, I really didn't like going out the other night, unless I was going see you. But when you said you said you were at (that club), I was like, ugh, I can't stand that place. I hope you had fun though!"
/r/seduction11/10/11 03:55 PM
2

Vin DiCarlo's escalation ladder has it all mapped out. Google it.
/r/seduction11/10/11 06:19 AM
1

Also try: http://krauserpua.com/
/r/seduction11/10/11 05:07 AM
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No, be a bit more gracious. She's your friend's roommate. If you see her, be polite and say hi, introduce her to your friends, but don't act like anything more than friends. If she doesn't clue in, you should take her aside (hey, I want to talk to you for a second) and tell her that you had fun the other night albeit also a bit embarrassed, because you might have had too much to drink. Tell her that you don't like to upset anyone, but you're not really looking for anything more than to be friend…
/r/seduction11/10/11 05:00 AM
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Well, if you have something better, please post it. I found the blog someone pointed to me a few weeks ago: http://krauserpua.com/
/r/seduction11/10/11 04:55 AM
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Simple Pickup: http://www.youtube.com/user/SimplePickup
/r/seduction10/10/11 11:10 PM
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Thanks for the positive feedback mate. You are 100% correct. I went out with the attitude of: "Okay Sillymallard, you have gone out 14 times by yourself. Tonight is night 15, so you can do this tonight and get the woman you want." It doesn't work that way. I can't force anything to happen. I have to play the cards I am dealt. I was focused on getting outcomes instead of having a good time and bringing happiness to others. What happens if I end up in a room full of married people, or grannies, or…
/r/seduction10/10/11 10:42 PM
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In field videos mostly, but also seminar videos.
/r/seduction10/10/11 07:47 PM
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Both, but especially the in field videos.
/r/seduction10/10/11 07:44 PM
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"hi how are you?, i didnt went out at all yesterday. are we going to meet today?" Awful text. I know, because I have done this over and over again before realizing it doesn't work. Bad grammar, and you guys are going to meet??? Why are you meeting, and what are you meeting for? Meeting to share ice cream, to talk about her ex, have sex, or just a fun time? Texting to simply meet can weird a girl out for this reason. Breakdown: You invited her out, she declined. She counteroffered. Awesome. It's …
/r/seduction10/10/11 04:46 PM
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Avoiding people/problems/situations is generally immature.
/r/seduction10/10/11 04:30 PM
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Spot on.
/r/seduction10/10/11 04:25 PM
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I disagree with you. With youtube and other video programs out there it's a lot easier to soak up what works and what doesn't and replicate it in the field. I used to read a lot of PUA stuff before youtube existed, and I'll tell you, reading the stuff didn't really help me that much, but watching videos of it have made a much bigger difference and have made it easier for me to go into the field. Of course, there is nothing more productive than being in the field.
/r/seduction10/10/11 04:20 PM
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Interesting. I'll keep this in mind.
/r/seduction10/10/11 03:47 PM
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I thought it was impossible to date white girls because of my ethnic background, not Indian, but close to it. Then I discovered Matador.
/r/seduction10/10/11 06:27 AM
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Plowing has worked for me, but not as well as I would like it to. That is, start a soliloquy that lasts for 30-60 seconds about anything. If there are other people in the group, direct it to them and ignore her. I usually will just talk about what I'm doing that night, how my day/week has been, etc. At some point she'll realize you aren't phased by her negative vibes and realize that you're a bit different on the inside than many other guys, that you don't need her approval to be 100% happy. She…
/r/seduction10/10/11 05:18 AM
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I "dealt" with my girl by ignoring her and meeting more women. Here is the post: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/ka7ob/day_3_kino_frustration_comment_on_this_please/. You might find the comments to be helpful. I don't really care about what happens with her anymore; she's off my radar. We'll still randomly text/Facebook sometimes, but after taking a step back I really don't know what I want from her, aside from being friends. Honestly, I don't want to play games with anyone for no rea…
/r/seduction10/10/11 05:03 AM
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repeating back part of what he says Parroting. Great work. Did you try doing this when you couldn't keep the conversation going with the girls? nobody laughed at my jokes. People tend not to get that I’m joking sometimes, but that night was the worst. It sounds like you are using a sarcastic type of humor, which can often be taken the wrong way. Witty humor works a lot better in my experience.
/r/seduction10/10/11 04:58 AM
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All mammals like to be touched by their own kind in some sense in the right context. Cats, dogs, horses, lions, monkeys, rats, racoons, squirrels, deer, dolphins, elephants, etc. This is especially true regarding mothers and their children. Other types of animals generally don't do as much of the touchy-feely stuff as mammals do. It's good to be a mammal =D
/r/seduction10/10/11 04:42 AM
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I did something similar with a girl a few weeks ago. It seems like she wants to keep you as an option and is living up to her quote of "being too controlling and stuff". You were letting her call the plays, just like me. Don't waste your time with her until you know what you are doing and don't care about the outcome with this girl.
/r/seduction10/10/11 03:56 AM
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You're completely right. I was trying to get something last night instead of giving something and being outcome independent.
/r/seduction10/10/11 03:50 AM
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Thanks. I needed this. For the record, I didn't really ditch my friends to sarge. They're all married or cohabiting, so getting them to stay out past 10PM is like pulling wisdom teeth. I should have been honest though, and said something like, "Well, I'm going to hit the bars! See you later." However, you're right, and my next sticking point is to game in front of my friends, something I should have done at the bar we were at. What scares me is getting rejected in front of my friends and me losi…
/r/seduction09/10/11 09:20 PM
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Thanks man. We will improve with slow incremental progress.
/r/seduction09/10/11 09:07 PM
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This is exactly the type of advice I am looking for. Go for easier girls first. So simple and obvious, but not something I would have thought about as an explicit next baby step. I'm good at dancing, but not good at dance game. I think part of my rut is not mixing up the variety of venues for practicing. I'm going to try more daytime game and dance clubs in the future. I'm also going to start taking salsa classes.
/r/seduction09/10/11 09:05 PM
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You're 100% correct. I'm an AFC. I will do this.
/r/seduction08/10/11 06:19 PM
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Easiest, and most effect thing: SMILE, look happy, and make eye contact. Guys will smile back and many will say hi to you. You are gold. Girls who grew up not looking like a model and later learned to be beautiful and confident by far have the best personalities compared to girls who have been told they were princesses and spoiled from the day they were born.
/r/seduction08/10/11 06:16 PM
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Good job.
/r/seduction08/10/11 08:08 AM
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Awesome.
/r/seduction06/10/11 03:23 PM
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How experienced are you at seducing straight women? Probably not very much. That's my point. I believe your blog would be much more useful if it were targeted to straight women trying to attract straight men, because you are clearly an expert at that. Regardless, I think your blog is interesting as far as getting into the mind of a girl that is sexually aware.
/r/seduction06/10/11 08:08 AM
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If they are your friends, have you tried having a one-on-one conversation with one of them? If they are really your friends, they will help you! I told one of my buddies a while back that I wasn't good with women, and needed his help (he's a natural). He was flattered, and said he was going to help me. Since then, he's my go-to person when I don't know what to do next with a girl.
/r/seduction06/10/11 06:52 AM
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Posted: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/l2qwp/my_default_face_the_mischievousselfamusing_grin/
/r/seduction06/10/11 06:19 AM
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Posted: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/l2qwp/my_default_face_the_mischievousselfamusing_grin/
/r/seduction06/10/11 06:18 AM
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Posted: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/l2qwp/my_default_face_the_mischievousselfamusing_grin/
/r/seduction06/10/11 06:18 AM
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Posted: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/l2qwp/my_default_face_the_mischievousselfamusing_grin/
/r/seduction06/10/11 06:18 AM
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Posted: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/l2qwp/my_default_face_the_mischievousselfamusing_grin/
/r/seduction06/10/11 06:18 AM
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We will not agree on this. We're not umpires. Our opinions and judgement matter jack shit when it comes to pickup. The umpire/judgement in pickup is if what you are doing works or not, in real life. I am saying that I will always doubt a good batter's advice on how to be a good pitcher MUCH MORE than a good pitcher's advice on how to be a good pitcher. You may think it is unfair or bigoted, but I believe and know it to be right and in line with common sense. Now you can have the last word, for r…
/r/seduction06/10/11 05:49 AM
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I don't know why he brought it up either. The blog seems to be interesting, and not really a seduction advice column for guys written by a girl. However, I do resent it when people misconstrue seduction principles as sexism.
/r/seduction06/10/11 05:28 AM
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Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me? I know I said you could have the last word, but this seddit post is relevant to your comment: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/l00tf/i_have_missed_more_than_9000_shots_in_my_career_i/ .
/r/seduction06/10/11 05:21 AM
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I'm saying that a professional pitcher with a proven track record can probably give much better advice to a person who also wants to be a better pitcher than a professional batter who doesn't pitch. You might not like it, and I don't think we'll agree on this. You can have the last word.
/r/seduction06/10/11 05:14 AM
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Turn head (not your body) Say: "Hey! How're you doing today?" This has worked for me an a semi-daily basis of at least getting a smile or a "Hi!". Source: I say hi to people everyday walking to and from the gym, which translates to saying hi to about 300+ random strangers over the past month.
/r/seduction06/10/11 04:26 AM
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I wasn't refuting anything. I think the blog is interesting. I was clarifying internetbound's statement (which could easily be misconstrued as sexism): That the probability of her advice being good regarding male seduction, given that she is a straight woman on the receiving end of male seduction, is lower than advice coming from men who are good with seducing women in general. In short, it's probably better to spend time on blogs that demonstrate approaches that tend to work with hundreds of al…
/r/seduction06/10/11 04:08 AM
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I believe the line is very clear. If she's dating a friend of yours, she is off limits. If she's dating someone you don't know or aren't friends with, it's fair game.
/r/seduction06/10/11 03:00 AM
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This will generally not work.
/r/seduction06/10/11 02:56 AM
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Not because she is a woman, but because women are generally on the receiving end of male seduction. Getting advice from women on how to seduce is usually a relatively more unhelpful thing. Notable exceptions are women who seduce other women. I, a man, would hesitate to write a blog for women on how to attract men, because I only know what works for me as a receiver of female seduction. I don't know what works for all different sorts of men in general, because I don't practice seducing men. I wou…
/r/seduction06/10/11 02:49 AM
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Hey 57579, I am in a PhD program, and I know how you feel. School is toxic for my game and anxiety levels...you know, the whole talking to professors thing and them telling you 100 reasons of why it won't work and you feeling like shit for not thinking of those things in the first place. Or what about getting 20/100 on exams, consistently? How about feeling guilty for going out on the weekends instead of studying/researching? Yep. I feel you. It's not just the program, I realized, but the people…
/r/seduction05/10/11 03:43 PM
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Sorry, I've been very busy with work, but it IS on my to-do list, I'll make another post when I find some good pics and also post it here.
/r/seduction02/10/11 07:38 PM
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Well done, and props for being safe.
/r/seduction01/10/11 09:31 AM
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Haha, nice. The guy's face at the end is almost what my default "face" looks like. Maybe a little less overt, and not from the side, but straight on. Then when I see someone, I smile genuinely, but not too quickly.
/r/seduction30/09/11 08:31 PM
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Hey!!! I was just thinking to myself what to say during the PM hours while I was walking back to the gym. I usually say "Good Morning" in the morning. "Good Day" seems like it'll work. Thanks man. I'll try it out.
/r/seduction30/09/11 07:49 PM
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Thanks man. Sometimes, not last night, but sometimes keep in my head the 2/3-1/3 rule if I catch myself talking too much. That is, keep her talking for 2/3 of the interaction.
/r/seduction30/09/11 05:53 PM
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Thanks man. I like your advice. I am getting to the point that when I get a negative reaction from someone, I just shrug it off as them being weird or they've just been having a bad day/night. I believe you come from the last generation of guys in the U.S. that didn't need pickup, because they just learned it from their dads, uncles or friends, or maybe it's a testament to just having more life experience. Either way, my guy friends who are 40+ are generally naturals when it comes to women, and …
/r/seduction30/09/11 05:52 PM
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ahhh, I see. Good thinking.
/r/seduction30/09/11 05:18 PM
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I've found it's in a girl's nature to not be overt about saying, "I don't want to have a romantic relationship with you.", because she doesn't want to hurt the guy's feelings, but also because she could keep him around as a friend for other things. I agree it's shitty, because the guy is not interested in any sort of friendship with her unless it involves sex, which girls might find shitty in and of itself. All in all, I think honesty and being true with each others' intentions is the best polic…
/r/seduction30/09/11 04:53 PM
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Spot on advice. Now that school has started, I've identified a couple toxic people that have tripped me up in the past, who I am now spending limited time around. I would like to add one more to your bullets: I don't care what you think.
/r/seduction30/09/11 04:38 PM
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Whoa! Not myself...I'm going to post pics from google images.
/r/seduction30/09/11 04:05 PM
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Thanks for the link, but I disagree that this would be a relevant tactic for the situation. They were engaged 1-1 and were doing some kino gimmicks the whole time, and there were no grandmas or ugly girls to dance with, nor was it really a dance venue, just a live music venue.
/r/seduction30/09/11 03:53 PM
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Hahaha! Almost, but I'd say a little less sarcastic-looking.
/r/seduction30/09/11 03:51 PM
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Haha! Honestly, even if you're joking, you're probably correct. Talking to the slightly unattractive girl earlier and getting her e-mail was practice for when I talk to a slightly attractive girl and go for her contact info.
/r/seduction30/09/11 03:46 PM
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Thanks man!
/r/seduction30/09/11 03:45 PM
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I'm going to find some pics for you and everyone else later today. Words only go so far.
/r/seduction30/09/11 03:44 PM
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Awesome man! It's really refreshing for me, especially in the morning. After doing it to probably hundreds of people at this point, I find it really easy to shrug it off when people ignore me or react weird. I've found 8-10 feet to be the sweet spot as it allows just enough time for people who haven't made eye contact to look at you and smile or say something.
/r/seduction30/09/11 03:43 PM
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That's a really good point. I should have totally bantered with them! Will do next time I notice PUAs.
/r/seduction30/09/11 03:34 PM
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Haha, yeah probably, but I'm a pretty small guy, so I think I can get away with more than many others, since I'm not as physically intimidating as others (maybe a blessing for being short?). I think what I yelled was something along the lines of, "Hey, it's you again! Clarinet, right?" She heard that I said something, but not a lot of reaction, so I walked up closer to her and said the same thing and she looked at me and said, "Oh! Hi! I didn't know who it was."
/r/seduction30/09/11 03:33 PM
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Don't worry about the outcome of your interaction.
/r/seduction30/09/11 08:26 AM
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Hey, I didn't mean any of my comment directed at you personally. Part of me just wrote it out to remind myself about how I need to change to get what I strive for in life (I grew up with the Disney based fantasy). My friends are not hicks, but midwesterners who grew up and settled in the midwest. And don't deny that part in you! Be honest with yourself and others. Always remember what your goals are and work towards them. Just the other day a 29-year-old catholic guy posted on how he was using g…
/r/seduction29/09/11 07:05 PM
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I am here on seddit to get the skills I need to meet the woman of my dreams, have a family, and live happily ever after. It isn't common and it doesn't just happen, as much as Disney would like society to think it is. I've realized it takes hard work, dedication, and unending vigilance. For generation Y, I'd guess that men getting married and having 3 kids by the age of 25 is young. I'd say the normal age to have that as a man would be 30-35 nowadays. The friends I have that do have kids are rel…
/r/seduction29/09/11 06:26 AM
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Don't get oneitis man.
/r/seduction29/09/11 04:25 AM
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I'm skeptical, not necessarily about the effect but its magnitude.
/r/seduction29/09/11 03:16 AM
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Stop being a keyboard jockey and post a fucking field report. You are searching for any reason to not post a FR and have some strong opinions about them, despite NEVER having posted a FR on seddit yourself. No need to tell us everything, just post the stuff you want feedback on. Sorry for the tough love, but I'm trying to help you out. You'll at least be able to track your progress by writing it all down.
/r/seduction28/09/11 07:14 AM
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I am always the first to admit that I am an AFC. However, ever since I started posting field reports just one month ago, I've seen noticeable improvement. You haven't asked for advice on seddit via a field report yet, so saying that people in real life would help you better than online is a baseless opinion to have. Do you see what I'm saying? Try it out, man. Read my FR[9] and FR[12] for inspiration. While I have yet to get a proper # close or kiss, they are my best nights out yet, which I am u…
/r/seduction28/09/11 06:45 AM
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You have all the friends to give you pointers right here on seddit. I don't see any field reports from you in the past 6 months. You will get blown out less if you post what you did to get blown out here and get advice from the pros. I promise to you that by Sunday you will see at least two new field reports from me posted to seddit, however lame they might be, asking for advice. I challenge you to do the same! We'll go out together in spirit!
/r/seduction28/09/11 05:59 AM
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Good Life by One Republic was what was in my head while I was gaming during my last FR. It might be cheesy and maybe not a pump up song, but it fills me up with vitality, good vibes, and the lyrics really help me put this game stuff into perspective in the grand scheme of things. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZhQOvvV45w
/r/seduction28/09/11 05:09 AM
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I would recommend going to Adams Morgan. It's literally a buffet of 40 or so bars and clubs there, always packed, and lots of people on the street as well. The environment makes it easy to bounce around really quickly. Try going out solo, and early before it gets to be drunk 'o' clock.
/r/seduction28/09/11 04:58 AM
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Hey, good job at bouncing back man so quickly. I have a question: I laughed to myself because I had heard this exact story on seddit and kept choosing music until she got a flustered look on her face and sat next to me. What is this exactly? Could you give more detail? I haven't seen this on seddit.
/r/seduction27/09/11 05:47 PM
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I believe a lot of people on reddit claim that only unattractive people are labeled as creepy, and they are correct in one sense. However, they take this to mean physically attractive, rather than just being attractive and throw hissy fits about it. Examples of why it's not about looks: One girl I know just called a pretty physically attractive acquaintance of ours creepy because of his actions. He is completely ripped and exudes confidence at a surface level. However, in my opinion, he started …
/r/seduction27/09/11 04:34 PM
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Thank you for the helpful reply!
/r/seduction27/09/11 06:32 AM
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I am an AFC, but I am improving. Don't worry about girls. Not yet. Worry about the next step that will ultimately lead you to getting girls. Start out by saying, "Hi!" or "Good morning!" or something similar to people that walk by you on the street. Not just the hot girls, but old ladies with their poodles and homeless guys. Another good first step is to talk to people who are paid to talk to you: salespeople at clothing stores, baristas, bartenders, etc. Don't worry about anything else until yo…
/r/seduction27/09/11 06:22 AM
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Good to know man. Could you me a bit more detail? What do you say after you say, "I feel you are absolutely stunning." Please give me a little more info about the first 30 seconds of conversation. I really need help with my day game. Much appreciated!
/r/seduction27/09/11 06:13 AM
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I don't know how experienced you are, but you deserve a lot of credit for approaching for the 9th time after getting blown out 8 times and getting blown out again. QUESTION: You said you daygame a lot; do you find success by being direct in daygame? That is, saying, "You're sexy" or "You're pretty"? I've found the mundane and boring topics to be the best stuff to talk about at the bar as long as you can make it fun/funny. If I can't find something situational, my opener is "Hey! How's your night…
/r/seduction27/09/11 05:52 AM
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Awesome man! I have one question for you: I just had a warm smile, just walked up without any hesitation whatsoever, and just talked. I know it's not really important, but I'm curious. Can you remember what you said?
/r/seduction27/09/11 05:38 AM
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Thanks man! Maybe it's an overstatement, but I really did feel like I had a superstar in Super Mario Bros. for most of the night. The only points where I felt a little vulnerable was starting out. I was lucky to be aware that the first venue was slowly killing my high and if I hadn't changed venues right away, this FR might have been very different.
/r/seduction27/09/11 05:28 AM
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Thanks for the kind words. I say I am AFC because I can't be this way consistently yet (e.g. FR[11]), and I am struggling with being more sexual in my interactions, getting numbers, kisses, and dates. But I am improving, and it is definitely noticeable! This was the first night I explicitly asked for a number. I didn't write this in my FR, but when the girl told me she had a bf, I also told her, "That's nice of you." She thought I was joking, but I said, "No I'm being honest with you." And expla…
/r/seduction27/09/11 05:19 AM
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Perhaps it would be more beneficial for everyone if someone here knew of examples on the internet of good online dating profiles. Does anyone have any sources/examples?
/r/seduction26/09/11 11:38 PM
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Not something to wear, but as in one of my field reports: If you have play an instrument that is relatively portable, just walk around town carrying it. It's almost guaranteed that people will approach you.
/r/seduction26/09/11 11:27 PM
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Hi throwaway00m. I am an INFP; I've always been one, and I can understand how you feel. I am also 5'6. However, I know that being introverted doesn't mean you are averse to being social or talking to people. It just means that you prefer a different style of socializing, such as one-on-one conversations with people at the side of the room, rather than being the center of attention in the middle of the bar. You probably are not at 100% with socializing when it's unplanned, but are perfectly fine …
/r/seduction26/09/11 07:57 PM
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Thanks man. I still have problems picking up women, talking to them, and attracting them, but I shall improve.
/r/seduction26/09/11 04:09 PM
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Thanks man. Let's both keep doing it, keep doing it, keep doing it. I must admit that it's still a little scary initially to go out, but once I'm actually out, it IS becoming easier.
/r/seduction26/09/11 04:08 PM
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Thanks man. There is a tradeoff between approach anxiety and wittiness when it comes to drinking. If you can control your nerves and approach, making funny banter is like shooting fish in a barrel. Everyone else you're talking to is temporarily handicapped. I did have a couple drinks at the second bar, but this was to fit in more than to calm myself down. At the third bar and fourth club, all I had was water. I feel like I was almost ripping off the places since there was no cover, I was enjoyin…
/r/seduction26/09/11 04:06 PM
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It might feel a bit rude, but interrupting on a cold approach isn't bad. What's bad is constantly interrupting someone when you are already conversing with them. I've discovered two ways to get around the three second rule: Open a set that you don't care about first, such as a group of guys. Then open up the set you first noticed. The other way is to disappear for a while and go to another part of the bar and get a drink, use the bathroom, or banter with other people. This sort of resets the clo…
/r/seduction26/09/11 06:21 AM
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Thanks man!
/r/seduction26/09/11 04:33 AM
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This is literally what I have done for many of my openings: I walk chest out, shoulders back, usually drink in hand holding at a level below my belt. Humans are animals, and the one thing you never do is approach an animal head on or rear on. Walk as if you are walking past the group with a slight smile (think of being self-content with life), and slow down/stop, turn your head but not your entire body towards them, look them in the eye, smile a little more (with your eyes), and to one of them s…
/r/seduction26/09/11 04:27 AM
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It seems like you followed her lead. I know, because I'm an AFC and did the same thing a few weeks ago and wasn't able to escalate. She also seems a bit nuts.
/r/seduction25/09/11 10:32 PM
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Yeah, it could have been complete BS, but they were visiting from out of town for a few days and it was their last night, so it could have been the truth. Either way, it made me feel 10 times better than just leaving the set on a bad vibe. Learning to not take negative reactions personally is a big step for me.
/r/seduction25/09/11 09:47 PM
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? Are you being sarcastic or honest? It's difficult to tell with typed sentences.
/r/seduction25/09/11 09:37 PM
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She was acting moody all day. They drank a lot the night before, and she ended up getting completely hammered.
/r/seduction25/09/11 09:28 PM
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Engage the whole group of girls. Win the entire group. If you can tell the girl is compliant, be manly and honest: Tell her friends in front of the girl (and maybe your arm over her shoulder), "Hey, I have to admit, I'm getting a little crush on your friend, is that okay with you all?" Chances are if you have won the group over, and the girl is into you, you'll actually get her friends to cheer YOU on and the girl will not feel embarrassed to go have fun with you since all of her friends approve…
/r/seduction25/09/11 08:54 PM
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Thanks man!
/r/seduction25/09/11 08:36 PM
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Thanks man! I have to admit, I did get some strange looks from people a couple times, and this is when I didn't believe in myself 100% (trying to get a reaction instead of not giving a fuck how people reacted). A bit more detail about how I made it work: I walk with a little pep in my step with a slight self-amusing and curious warm grin, look people in the eyes, clap a couple times, launch my fists into the air as high they'll go and yell, "You're going to kill it tonight!" and never stop my wa…
/r/seduction25/09/11 08:32 PM
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Good reports.
/r/seduction25/09/11 06:25 PM
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I believe simple normal conversation is comfort building. If she asks you about your work or family, reassure her and answer honestly, but don't be boring. My problem is I build comfort before attraction. I am AFC.
/r/seduction25/09/11 04:13 AM
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Well done. Keep it up! I've noticed that in groups of people, there is usually one or two people who are the happy-go-lucky types and probably the ones that got their friends out in the first place. Acknowledge everyone in the group, but banter with the high-energy ones, befriend them, and everyone else in the group may feel compelled to join in your awesome interaction.
/r/seduction25/09/11 02:19 AM
5

You are overthinking this.
/r/seduction23/09/11 08:31 AM
1

Most of the OP's replies are childish. Just ignore and focus on something more worthwhile.
/r/seduction22/09/11 07:28 AM
3

I like that channel a lot to boost my confidence and get a laugh, but it's difficult for me to learn from them, because they do a lot of editing and cutting of the approaches.
/r/seduction22/09/11 07:20 AM
4

Nice post. While we're on topic. Does anyone have links to videos of pickupartists getting blown? I'd like to see how they react to it.
/r/seduction22/09/11 04:19 AM
2

Awesome!!! You inspire me.
/r/seduction22/09/11 03:57 AM
1

Hey, well, let me be clear about one thing. I don't think you're shit; I just think your post is. I don't think we're going to see eye to eye on this.
/r/seduction22/09/11 03:20 AM
0

The OP isn't telling you who you should be. OP's title says: Men, you should aspire to be this kind of guy: Anyway, you can have the last word.
/r/seduction22/09/11 03:04 AM
0

Sure, be your best self. Be honest, in shape, confident, stylish, sexy, loving, etc. However, I would say a big part of being your best self is NOT allowing anyone, especially women, any say over who you should be. I subscribed to the Disney mentality for 10 years, thinking that if I was a nice guy and did what women said they wanted, it would get me laid. Real life doesn't work that way, and the OP annoys me for trying to bring this inane shit to seduction. I'm an AFC, and am usually polite, bu…
/r/seduction22/09/11 02:56 AM
0

I want Jessica Alba. That is the kind of girl I want! You should aspire to be that kind of woman. Seriously though, what is this post about and how does it relate to seduction?
/r/seduction22/09/11 12:01 AM
1

I'm generalizing here, but if you can swing it, try to go Latin America, preferably for a longer period of time, such as for language immersion, study abroad, volunteering, interning, or even finding work. Latin girls and guys are masters of physical, sexual affection. If that's not possible, try getting in with the Mexican/Latino community in the U.S.
/r/seduction21/09/11 04:26 PM
1

These are really good videos! I just watched a few of them, and they are exactly what I need. Thanks!!!
/r/seduction21/09/11 06:41 AM
3

I have no idea what to talk about. Read, "How to Talk to Anyone" by Leil Lowndes. That book saved my life.
/r/seduction21/09/11 05:24 AM
2

I still have approach anxiety of course, but the idea that I'm going to go out by myself to the bars or wherever doesn't make my stomach turn that much anymore. I can't always be at 100%; sometimes I do feel like shit and have to go through steps to get myself into state. I completely agree with you. Thanks for all your advice. I truly appreciate it. I will keep posting like you said!
/r/seduction20/09/11 04:13 PM
13

Smile.
/r/seduction20/09/11 06:22 AM
1

This is bullshit. Everyone knows a 10 when they see one, whether it's a girl or a guy. Everyone knows hot girls who have been hit on their entire life react differently than ugly girls.
/r/seduction20/09/11 06:14 AM
1

Thanks man. Nice to meet you too.
/r/seduction20/09/11 04:18 AM
-1

Don't make yourself the guy who cold approaches girls. Make yourself the guy who cold approaches everyone. Don't try to jump into conversation right away. Baby steps. Make it easy for yourself. Start with saying, "Hi!" or "Good morning!" or "How's it going?" to everyone. I literally say hi to everyone I cross paths with nowadays. I say hi to at least 20-30 random strangers everyday. A few "regulars" even say hi to me first now. At first, people thought I was weird, but I realize it's because I s…
/r/seduction20/09/11 01:05 AM
2

Thanks man! I forgot that it had to be cold approaches. To make up, I'm going to shoot for six next time I'm in the field. ;-) Yes, sarging doesn't make me nervous anymore, now it just makes me feel good combined with a little bit of annoyance/frustration. But I shall improve. Thanks for your support.
/r/seduction20/09/11 12:34 AM
1

Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I did go through with your challenge. I will take your advice for more engaging questions. Thanks!
/r/seduction19/09/11 05:50 PM
1

Yes.
/r/seduction19/09/11 04:30 PM
2

Well, she seems into you to some degree. Just don't get oneitis. The pros will have some good advice for you.
/r/seduction19/09/11 09:50 AM
1

Just throwing something out there, not necessarily for OP, but I use the Norelco bodygroom all over on a long setting once a week. It keeps a natural look without anything looking too unruly.
/r/seduction19/09/11 09:46 AM
1

No, I am not, but I have been there a couple times in the past. I'm not going to lie, Hyderabad is rough. I'm not Indian, but close to it. What commitments do you have to your family?
/r/seduction19/09/11 06:47 AM
1

Sorry, I meant to say in your car, but not while you're driving just in case you live with roommates who might think you've gone bonkers.
/r/seduction18/09/11 08:56 PM
1

Haha, thanks man. I write the last point as a disclaimer about my advice: that I'm neither a PUA nor a keyboard jockey, just an AFC working to improve. However, when I go out I certainly believe that I am the coolest guy on Earth.
/r/seduction18/09/11 07:33 AM
7

Some of my steps: For me, the most important one is to resolve any undone work or other things (e.g. personal conflicts) stressing me out. I try to get everything done and resolved, but often this isn't possible. So I come up with a detailed plan and timeline for how I will finish my work and resolve anything else stressing myself out in life. I also plan my night out: where/when I'm going to go, how many places, whether or not I'm going to drink, and how many sets I want to open. After that, th…
/r/seduction18/09/11 05:47 AM
2

THIS! This is exactly it. Baby steps. I didn't even think about it! I'm going to ask three girls the time tomorrow. So harmless and so easy. Challenge accepted! Thank you so much.
/r/seduction18/09/11 05:28 AM
1

Hi. You are awesome. Could you please list the types/variety of venues you've chosen over the past 15 days?
/r/seduction18/09/11 05:19 AM
2

to see if their company is good enough for you Golden.
/r/seduction16/09/11 10:22 PM
0

Don't try to get friends. Try to give your friendship to others. A great way to be a giver is to lead an interesting life, and invite new people to share in your adventures.
/r/seduction16/09/11 09:53 PM
27

Dude. Really not cool. I would take down the pics and change some details in your report.
/r/seduction16/09/11 05:07 PM
2

Ooooo. I feel your pain. The only good area around there is with the Gachiboli/Hi-tech city crowd. My suggestion would be to find a way to have a life in Bombers.
/r/seduction16/09/11 07:28 AM
2

Which city in India?
/r/seduction16/09/11 02:23 AM
1

Be the mature one, get her attention assertively, and ask her in person why she's ignoring you. If she's mature, she'll say why. If you legitimately did something to cross her, apologize sincerely. Sometimes we are oblivious to how we upset people. But don't apologize automatically, such as in the case she makes up something petty. If on the other hand she chooses to be a brat and not say why, you have the upper hand. Ask your coworkers or HR the same question, "Do you guys know why *** is ignor…
/r/seduction15/09/11 10:28 PM
1

Hey man, I'm not here to waste time debating. I think you understand my belief that one's education level really doesn't matter as much as other things when gaming girls, smart or stupid, and you don't have to agree with it.
/r/seduction15/09/11 10:15 PM
1

Yes. Smartness and education are correlated, but some of the most brilliant people I know dropped out of high school. Most programs in education are a signal of smartness albeit not a perfect one, as I know a few morons who are getting PhD's.
/r/seduction15/09/11 08:30 PM
1

Yes. You are correct that having a PhD will only improve attractiveness. I agree with you. However, I believe the single most important component of quality is to be wanted by many women, which supersedes the importance of wealth and education. I also believe my anecdotes are relevant, because PUAs are outliers compared to the average population. If I wanted to be average and go with the trend, I wouldn't be on seddit.
/r/seduction15/09/11 08:25 PM
4

Absolutely not. I've had this conversation with many girls getting their master's or doctorates. The trend in the U.S. as of last year is that girls are on average more educated than men. One of my friends, HB9.5, who is working on her PhD is on the track to marry a guy who is a chef with only a high school education. Another one of my friends getting a PhD, HB9, was seriously dating a guy with just a bachelor's degree. Finally, another one of my friends who is an M.D./PhD, HB10, told me about h…
/r/seduction15/09/11 04:49 PM
2

Dude. OMG. Never again.
/r/seduction15/09/11 08:01 AM
3

I've learned to not say "date" when you invite someone out. In the future, ask the girl to hang out.
/r/seduction15/09/11 07:57 AM
2

Awesome FR man. Just curious. How old are you and how old is she (approximately)?
/r/seduction15/09/11 06:46 AM
1

Is this necessarily a bad thing?
/r/seduction15/09/11 06:39 AM
2

YES! This is awesome! Keep it up!
/r/seduction15/09/11 06:34 AM
18

I am a PhD student in an extremely competitive program at a prestigious university and interact with many "smarter girls". I feel that many, but not all, of the smarter girls have missed out on the sexual passion that normal girls experience and crave it just as much as anyone else. Some of them might as well be retards when it comes to dating/sex due to their lack of experience. It doesn't matter what you scored on the GRE or how educated you are. From my observations, smarter girls are perfect…
/r/seduction15/09/11 06:27 AM
1

You inspire me. Have an upboat.
/r/seduction15/09/11 06:05 AM
1

Nice FR man! I am curious. How tall/attractive are you?
/r/seduction15/09/11 12:17 AM
10

This is exactly the reason for seddit. Cogent analysis so we don't make such mistakes in the future. Props to OP for putting himself out there for criticism.
/r/seduction14/09/11 08:27 PM
1

My personal AFC steps: Step one: Say hi to everyone on the street. The first few may look at you weird or ignore you, but eventually someone will say hi. Keep doing this until you learn to reduce the number of bad reactions as much as possible. Step two: Have 10-20 second conversations with people who are paid to talk to you such as sales clerks and baristas. Step three: Say hi and start conversations with older people, especially older women. Grandmas and moms love to talk to young lads. Step f…
/r/seduction14/09/11 04:56 PM
1

Great field report. You learned stuff and a got a #. Good job!
/r/seduction14/09/11 04:37 PM
1

I would disagree with the meeting of friends as the first date. I agree with having "attraction" being the sole reason for meeting up. I'll come up with a better plan!
/r/seduction13/09/11 03:50 PM
2

I did have a "secret" place for a coffee date setup, and I refused to give her any details about it in a joking way. The last voicemail I left was a simple "call me back when you're free". So, do I call again, or what? I will be more assertive though, thanks.
/r/seduction13/09/11 03:44 PM
3

Awww. You are a good guy. I don't know what to say about #1 other than good job. Maybe you could find her on Facebook and listen to what the pro's here have to say about that? Regarding #2, bus stops are super romantic. Sometimes people don't realize they are wearing sunglasses...I hate talking to people when they wear sunglasses, because I can't really tell what they're saying or relate to them as well. Regarding #3, you could have said, "Hey, well it was fun. We should chat again. What's you'r…
/r/seduction13/09/11 05:03 AM
3

From what I have read and heard, the reason is often a result of not qualifying your girl enough before you get down. That is, making her feel special and awesome.
/r/seduction13/09/11 03:03 AM
1

Thanks. Will do, and I just edited this one.
/r/seduction13/09/11 02:58 AM
10

That was a baller typo.
/r/seduction13/09/11 01:29 AM
2

I've come to realize that the first 3 months are the BEST months. You can literally go up to anyone, introduce yourself, ask them about random stuff around town, be the cool outsider, etc. all because you are new. I am terrible at meeting women, because I am an AFC. However, I've started sarging now, and being new to town is the greatest reason to go out alone. If anyone asks you what your deal is, you say you are new to town, and you are trying to make friends. That's honorable, adorable, and p…
/r/seduction12/09/11 08:42 PM
1

EXACTLY.
/r/seduction12/09/11 08:34 PM
2

It is for me. I want the Disney happily ever after life with the woman of my dreams. The only thing is, I've realized that the way to get this is completely different from anything that mainstream entertainment teaches. It just doesn't "happen".
/r/seduction12/09/11 07:49 AM
8

I am expert at building a life from scratch as I've done it 6 times in the past 10 years. Outside of work do three social activities: Something physical, something artistic, and something for the community. When someone invites you to something, never decline it for any reason, because if you do, you might never ever get invited by them again. Go out of your way to accept their friendship. Get the local city paper that lists events happening around town, whether they are talks, dance classes, co…
/r/seduction12/09/11 07:29 AM
1

Thanks man! I think the closes are indispensable for becoming whole, but to get them as if you're winning points in some kind of video game never appealed to me, because whenever I try it from this perspective, I fail. If I like a girl, I want to be 100% honest with myself and her, but in the manly way, not the AFC way. Life is so much simpler when you're honest. I'm here because I want to be able to get her number, kiss her, date her, sleep with her, and above all else "leave her in a better st…
/r/seduction12/09/11 01:11 AM
1

Thanks man! Best of luck to you.
/r/seduction11/09/11 11:31 PM
5

leave women better than you've found them I like this, a lot.
/r/seduction11/09/11 08:19 PM
1

Do whatever works for you man. I chose to go out early and come home before midnight, which is part of the reason why I chose to go out sober. On Friday, I went out and got tipsy, which was a great time too! If you haven't already, I do recommend trying it sober just to see how it goes.
/r/seduction11/09/11 05:35 PM
2

Thanks man! For me, it takes 20-30 minutes for me to get my mind off of anything that is distracting or worrying me. This is true not just for PUA, but for doing work, exercising, reading, and anything else I need to put my mind to. One thing that has always helped me when I feel kind of down is I say to myself, "Well, let's get ready first and then see how you feel, SillyMallard. If you are still really feeling like shit after getting decked out, you don't have to go." So I get in the shower, b…
/r/seduction11/09/11 05:26 PM
2

For me it is definitely harder to control my nerves without alcohol, but do you know what is awesome about going out sober? Your banter is guaranteed to be at least twice as quick and witty as anyone who is slightly inebriated. It's almost unfair! Like playing dodge ball with people who can't run.
/r/seduction11/09/11 05:06 PM
1

Impressive first attempt!
/r/seduction11/09/11 07:54 AM
2

Thanks man! I really appreciate you reading through it and commenting. It keeps me going!
/r/seduction11/09/11 07:47 AM
2

Thanks man! I think we miss a lot of what used to make us happy by living in modern society. This is my 9th field report. I'd never sarged solo in my life until a few weeks ago. I will keep improving.
/r/seduction11/09/11 07:33 AM
2

Nod "Well, have a great night!"
/r/seduction08/09/11 06:12 PM
10

You didn't need to make a post in order to leave. You are not leaving. You just want attention and help improve yourself. I encourage you to stay and keep trying!
/r/seduction08/09/11 04:38 PM
4

You're not being very nice. I am open about being an AFC and am on seddit to improve myself, and there is really no need to attack me directly. If you have a constructive comment on my comment, I would appreciate that.
/r/seduction07/09/11 04:22 PM
7

My opinion is that honesty is the best policy. Life is so much simpler and happier that way.
/r/seduction07/09/11 05:41 AM
2

FUCK YEAH.
/r/seduction07/09/11 05:34 AM
5

That is not bizarre. She re-kindled a former relationship. Get over your oneitis man.
/r/seduction07/09/11 04:46 AM
1

Haha, that's awesome! You should just introduce yourself as that instead of your first name.
/r/seduction07/09/11 03:44 AM
4

Flirt: Be funny. Bonus if you can make it about her or the two of you. When she asks you a question, wait 3 seconds and try to come up with a funny answer, or ask her a question back. Touching: Only touch her shoulder, grab her arm, poke her, hug her etc. during or right after she laughs/smiles, and make sure to let go after a couple seconds and it's guaranteed to not be creepy. If she allows you to keep your hand on her arm or elsewhere, make sure you move your hand around and don't just keep i…
/r/seduction07/09/11 03:30 AM
24

I hate talking to people when they're wearing sunglasses, because it blocks out a bunch of their personality in communication.
/r/seduction07/09/11 12:38 AM
4

Now that you mention it, I guess I don't just say, "Hi, my name is Sillymallard." When I have nothing else to say, it usually goes like this: "Hey what's up!" "How's your night going?" 20-30 seconds of what I'm doing currently at the moment (waiting for a friend, celebrating something, etc.). "My name is Sillymallard." Stick hand out for handshake. "What are your names." Yesterday I tapped a girl on the shoulder at a coffee shop yesterday while she was sitting with her family, and did this routi…
/r/seduction07/09/11 12:30 AM
3

Once I didn't really get it with a girl that she was into me. She said, "So when are we going on a date!?". And then I asked her out on a date, she said yes, and everything was cool! Sometimes us guys just don't get it and need your help.
/r/seduction06/09/11 10:33 PM
2

Do you excel at anything? Are you good at math, or reading, a kind of sport, playing a musical instrument, computer games, cards, monopoly, anything?? Chances are that you are good at something in life, and in that environment you ARE alpha. Think about that for a second, and realize that you can become alpha in any other part of your life if you work at it. There is no shortcut for hard work. Some people have inherent talent at certain things than others, but if you work at anything hard enough…
/r/seduction06/09/11 09:19 PM
1

Boring and normal, but it works: Either make eye contact, or if they are facing away from me tap them on the shoulder twice and say, "Hi. What's up! My name is Sillymallard (holds out hand for shake far enough into their space that they have to shake)" Then I unwarrentedly say about 20-30 seconds of what I'm doing currently. If they are interested, they'll ask me some mundane question. Otherwise I'll ask them what they are doing, where they are from, what they are drinking, etc. I come from a fr…
/r/seduction05/09/11 07:48 PM
1

When she guesses, look at her with a curious smile and say, "Hmmm, interesting." Don't just flat up answer questions factually as if it were an interview.
/r/seduction05/09/11 07:36 PM
2

Seriously, just try this on your friends to see how it works. Try the building rapport one, and then try the breaking rapport one, and see the difference.
/r/seduction05/09/11 04:56 PM
4

Nothing is wrong with you. What makes you different is that you are trying to become a part of the top echelon of the male sex, unlike most or all of your guy friends. I am an AFC. I'll let the pros offer you real advice.
/r/seduction05/09/11 05:56 AM
10

I can't really help you, because I am an AFC. However, I am a very emotional person. When I love someone, I love them to death, e.g. especially my mom and siblings. I said somewhere else that I am an INFP, a super dreamy-world emotional kind of personality that craves tonnes of emotion. But let's be honest with ourselves for a second. Do you masturbate to porn? If yes, then you get physically attracted to people before having an emotional connection to them, just like every other guy on the plan…
/r/seduction05/09/11 04:54 AM
9

Is anyone else utterly confused? I read through the post and comments, and I still don't get it, and I feel like I'm missing out on something really important. Help me please, somebody.
/r/seduction05/09/11 03:46 AM
2

Thanks!
/r/seduction04/09/11 08:16 PM
1

Thanks!
/r/seduction04/09/11 08:16 PM
2

Thank yoU! I'm not quick enough yet. I'm usually 5-10 seconds behind where I should be. I recognized all these missed opportunities just a tad too late. I'm not at the 15 minute conversation #-closing phase yet, but that 's the next step.
/r/seduction04/09/11 08:15 PM
3

Okay, gotcha. Thanks.
/r/seduction04/09/11 06:26 PM
1

I agree with you, and when I was younger, and tried this pua stuff at parties I would follow this advice, sometimes even waiting until girls asked me for my name. However, I always felt it to be unnatural for me. Ive gotten into the habit of asking names at the start and then reintroducing myself after a few minutes, maybe twice and even asking for their names once more before I leave. I know it's even "wrong" to go and get a drink first before approaching. But I'm trying to be a little sloppy, …
/r/seduction04/09/11 04:51 PM
1

I disagree with your opinion. I believe it is good to have a coherent, stable personality, but it is much better to have general knowledge and experience about everything, from celebrity gossip to evolutionary biology, and be a modern renaissance man of some sort. The whole avatar thing is good, but I don't believe the point of it is to pigeonhole yourself to one identity. I believe it's meant to project a coherent one.
/r/seduction04/09/11 08:04 AM
2

Hey, I just wanted to thank you. I didn't get to use it explicitly tonight, but hearing from you that it's 100% cool to approach even-balanced sets empowered me to do just that. I will keep this in my back pocket when I need it.
/r/seduction04/09/11 07:50 AM
5

Having a good friend is a rare thing.
/r/seduction04/09/11 03:37 AM
1

Yes. I know. I know it works, but it doesn't work for me. I just can't genuinely pull off the, "Hey nice nails, are they real?" thing. But I have my own way that works for me.
/r/seduction04/09/11 02:21 AM
2

Haha. Yeah, but what I like about your way, is that you're not being overtly mean. I hate negging, amoging, jockeying for value, etc. You are being humorously naive and friendly, and striking when opportunity reveals itself.
/r/seduction04/09/11 01:45 AM
1

THANK YOU. This is totally my style after all. THANK YOU.
/r/seduction04/09/11 01:37 AM
1

That's pretty cool. It's not really my style, but I will use this tonight and see what happens. Can you give me some of your standard answers to the possibilities? That is, what do I say if the girl says "Yes, he's mine." "No, he's not." "Uhhh?" . Also what would you say if the guy says "Yes, she's mine." "No, she's not." or "Uhhh?". Not that I need to have a contingent plan for every situation...I don't memorize any lines or use canned material when I go out. I just want to know how you spin th…
/r/seduction04/09/11 01:27 AM
1

AFC here, but on the couch I would have started a pillow fight.
/r/seduction02/09/11 10:28 PM
2

Assume she's telling you the truth. Call her and tell her to get well soon, at least. That's what any decent person would do. I don't know what to do beyond this, because I'm an AFC.
/r/seduction02/09/11 08:51 PM
2

They are really kind folks over there. They'll fix you up great!
/r/seduction01/09/11 08:51 PM
3

I have been here before, and it has gone miserably. Don't be a zoo animal. With me, an AFC, it's always been the girl's friends that say something which instills doubt in the girl whether or not you're good enough, when by herself she would have been enthralled with you.
/r/seduction01/09/11 08:46 PM
2

Try going to /r/malehairadvice . Whatever cards you are dealt in the hair department, you can either make yourself look ugly or make yourself look dapper. If losing hair bothers you THAT much, you can always save up for a hair transplant, which costs a few thousand dollars on average. I am balding, so I just keep my hair shorter, and it works for now.
/r/seduction01/09/11 08:40 PM
1

In college, my non-fraternity friends and I made up our own ridiculous informal fraternity, poking fun at all the other fraternities. Try this out and have fun with it! No house of course, but it was kind of fun to say I was in a secret fraternity that I couldn't talk about, etc., and yet at the same time not be a frat boy. In retrospect, I also feel that fraternities are underrated at the moment. There are some really good ones that have an environment of service, educational excellence, and ma…
/r/seduction01/09/11 03:03 PM
1

Seduction is another ball game. THIS. I am quite deft at striking up conversation with anyone about anything. However, I am quite inept at seduction, but I'm working on it!
/r/seduction01/09/11 12:16 AM
1

I disagree: looks do matter, and they matter to everyone. I have heard that it is far easier to lose weight than it is to ratchet up one's game to a point where being overweight doesn't is not an obstacle. I am 30 pounds overweight, and I am committed to losing it all by V day next year.
/r/seduction01/09/11 12:12 AM
1

That's really heartening. Thanks for sharing!
/r/seduction01/09/11 12:01 AM
7

You know what's even better? Saying "Hi!" "What's up?" "Good morning!" etc. Not aggressive, not shy, but full of fun and energy. Not to every girl, but to EVERYONE!
/r/seduction26/08/11 07:27 AM
2

From the naturals I've seen, mostly my friends' dads really, is that they never stop flirting, even if they are in a serious relationship, even if they are married. It's okay to look; it's okay to flirt. Also David DeAngelo often has said that many of his raves come from married men who bring game into their failing marriages with great success.
/r/seduction26/08/11 05:45 AM
0

From what I know, he seemed to be a fringe thinker in terms of seduction. Some of his advice was opposite what most other artists would advise. I have not read his more recent material.
/r/seduction26/08/11 05:39 AM
3

Self motivated - Can you make yourself feel good on demand? I need help with this one. Can anyone point me to some good resources?
/r/seduction24/08/11 07:16 PM
1

Thank you!
/r/seduction22/08/11 09:28 PM
3

Hey, great work man. Could you import more detail as to how you accomplished this (or post a field report if you haven't already done so).
/r/seduction22/08/11 05:39 PM
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I am out right now trying to day game and I can't get my shit together. I attribute part of this to lack of sleep last night and no excercise this morning. Ive lost my rage shield dammit. Trying to see if a little beer and coffee can shake me into state....
/r/seduction22/08/11 01:05 AM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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