I can talk up a storm with anyone over 40 in any situation, but when it comes to women in their 20's, I have no clue what to do.

Ra1den · 2013-04-14T23:54:11+00:00

As someone who is also somewhat of a gifted conversationalist, these days I'm not so sure the ability to talk enjoyable ad infinitum with women is always the greatest thing. My ability to converse with just about anyone for seemingly endless streaks has caused me to rely on it as an attention-getting crutch, and has caused me over the years to have ignored expanding my ability to escalate physically.

A woman clearly throwing off cues that she's enjoying talking to you is a form of validation, saying she likes having you around. However, don't mistake this for sexual validation. You think, "gosh, we've been talking for 5 hours straight, and she's still smiling and laughing at all my jokes. Clearly she wants the D." But you don't touch her, because you got just enough validation from the conversation that is allowed you to not feel too bad about pussying out on the escalation. "Next time I'll make my move." But next time comes, and the conversation is even more amazing and endless next time. "Third date. I'm making this happen." Finally, you go to put your arm around her, and suddenly you can tell she's a awkward and uncomfortable. Why? Because you just spent 10 hours talking with this woman without touching her. You presented yourself as a good, trustworthy, non-mysterious friend, who she just opened up and told a lot, A LOT, of stuff to. And now, after you've given her the impression that you're going to be a friend, you're putting the moves on her?

I went through this same damn pattern for years. That's when I had to realize that conversation helps you open, and then much later it builds trust and common ground. It does NOT build attraction.

2013-04-15T00:00:14+00:00

Older people have learned to listen far more carefully than a younger crowd, as they have more life experience. When dealing with people of any age, the best results always come from getting them to explore themselves through you. They want someone to be interested in what they have to say, and you just have the be the person there listening to them.

Once you build trust, you can build relationships and friendships with ease. Remove intent from your interactions, and people will love you for it.

Zaiton · 2013-04-15T06:49:03+00:00

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2013-04-15T03:34:57+00:00

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GeneralRouge · 2013-04-15T21:42:26+00:00

Older women enjoy the attention and will put more effort into the conversation. Younger good looking women get chatted up all the time and they don't want to necessarily waste their time with you.

If you're freezing up and going brain dead then that's your own problem that you have to work through with practice. If you're wondering why it's harder to maintain a conversation with a young woman who you have no initial rapport with, see my first paragraph.

forbinsdecline · 2013-04-15T23:23:59+00:00

You're on the right track when you say "women care not how polite i may try to be or that I want to discuss something". They absolutely 100% do not care about any of this. Don't forget that.

Title	I can talk up a storm with anyone over 40 in any situation, but when it comes to women in their 20's, I have no clue what to do.
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Date	April 14, 2013 10:48 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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