[FR] HB10 Professionnal Model : F-close [Part2]

Seddit_b1ood · 2013-07-22T21:15:40+00:00

Alright, part 3! Finally the good stuff. If you aren't interested in the whole FR, read part 6, it has some advice.

4.The Date (cont.)

So, we get in the car. Hanna and me are in the back, and the "couple" (I'll learn soon that these 2 are FWB) in front. They put some music while talking, I'm talking to Hanna. This is the moment of heavy qualifications and shit tests. She asks me why I changed my mind, if I usually gave my number away to anyone, etc. You have to not fuck these moments, it's really important to qualify as a confident person, and a potential partner. She also says something along these lines to her girl friend :

Hey, do you know we've actually seen a grand total of 5 minutes before tonight?

This is good, because it allows me to retort :

Yeah, exactly. Who's this girl? And why did you invite me huh? Why me?

I'm not getting intimidated. It's very important to frame it like you're actually confident no matter what. But careful, you don't want to come out as an asshole. Balance it expertly when you calibrate the girl.

So anyway, we arrive at the place. It's a large city so it's pretty hard to find a decent parking spot. The bar is a couple minutes walk away, so when we get out of the car, I take her by the hand and we're walking there. She's holding my hand firmly (with the fingers crossed and shit, mega legit). I stop the hand holding first and put my arm around her. She does the same. So many IOI's, I can't fuck this up. At the bar, I sit NEXT TO HER. This is fucking crucial. You can't kino is she's in front of you. (except the palm reading and some weak shit)

At the bar I show my social skills because even though we're at a table, when the waiter comes I joke a bit with him. Hanna is like "You know that guy?" "Of course. I saw him 10 minutes ago when we walked in. We're best friends now." My strategy was this at the bar : Stay aloof until you can heavy kino, but light kino anyway to keep her interested. I'll talk deeper about this, but it's really funny, because it kinda fucks with the girl's mind. She's a model, yet the guy she invited, who looks kinda interested, doesn't seem very invested. The girls comment about how I'm a nice person to help the waiter, because he messed our orders... Let's skip the 1st bar part this way:

First bar in short : Light kino (like a small slap on the arm when she says silly things), STRONG eye contact with her when I say unpopular things (Basically, I take risks by saying controversal things, this is called being vulnerable). This is what I'll call "the bar to qualify".

We're heading to another part of the city. A part where everyone goes out. Bar with loud music, lots of people, etc. In the car to this place, John's getting a little bit nervous. I just say "hey chill dude, we're here to have fun, not to worry!". I'm not afraid to say what I think, but always be respectful. This kinda established dominance too. We also have some light kino in the car with Hanna, I place my hand around her and pull her in for a big hug. Everything looks like I'm just a good friend, not a romantic person at the moment. (Note : this is something I always do for very hot girls (9+). I'll explain it in point 6 and can develop it later if there's demand). I know I'll be more agressive in the 2nd bar.

2nd bar. The 2nd bar is a bit more loud, with flashy lights, something a bit more for young people. Girls go to the bathroom quickly, I'm with John just talking to make him relax. We're laughing, everything's fine. Girls come back, Jessica takes John out of the bar for a couple minutes to talk. Alright, this is the moment. Sometimes your brain just can't keep the control and you go in full instinctive mode. I hold the strongest eye contact ever with her and say :

Alright you. We're finally alone. It's time for you and me to have fun.

I put my right arm around her to pull her close, my left hand brushes her cheek to go into her hair and I go for the kiss. Light and simple kiss first. Don't use tongue too quickly. Pull her back and watch her in the eyes. She can go for more if she wants. It gets more intense and hands are starting to get lost under the clothes. I'm cooling it down, I know we can't escalate too much right now. The 2 other come back, they look like they had a little argument. Anyway, we're just having fun at the bar.

It's getting late, time to go sleep. We head back to the car. We get a couple of light kisses on the way back to Jessica's house. She's resting on me too, her head on my crotch... This does seem like it's getting sexual, but she approach her head to whisper me : "We're not having sex tonight." This is a very common thing for any girl. Typically, they don't want to feel like they're too easy. When a girl says something like that, AGREE AND AMPLIFY. I said "Of course not. What were you thinking?"

5. The F-close

Anyway, we arrive at Jessica's place. Everyone at this point knows what's going on between Hanna and me. We sit on the couch for a moment just chilling, I have my legs wide open, Hanna sitting between it and I have my arms rested on her belly. I start really kino-ing without being seen by the 2 others. She says "I feel really tired now, I'm gonna go to bed". Unsure about it being a hint or not, I assume it is (You should always assume attraction anyway). I say "Oh yeah me too. Remember that I was going to bed when you called me!". Jessica shows us the room. I see we have one large bed for us. Jessica and John go to their room, upstairs.
Oh man. I got this

She puts her pajamas on, I just remove my clothes and go in bed in underwear. She's like

"Huh you didn't bring stuff to sleep?"

"Well I took a sleeping bag, I thought that was what you meant with 'stuff to sleep'. Underwear is fine for me."

"We're not having sex tonight."

yeah right "I know"

We talk about things we like etc. How the night went, etc. But then I activate my 'agressive mode' again. I kiss her passionately and keeps kissing her, start kissing down her neck (girls love this), start putting my hands under her clothes and say "You know what? I don't feel like sleeping anymore. I think we've better things to do. I really want you right now."

She says "Do you have condoms?"

Yep. Then it's just basic kino to make everything smooth. Little anecdote : when she said "Oh I've always wanted to do it on this table when I'm at jessica's house." I said "Hey, let's do it! :D "

The next day, at breakfast, she was talking with her friend about photshoots and stuff. I asked

"Oh, you girls are doing photoshoots?"

"Welp, Hanna is a model and I do some too for fun and when I get asked to"

(I saw some of her photoshoots and her model's resume -the file her agency sends when they have requests- later. Pretty neat.)

6. Basic Analysis + Follow up

So, little talk about what happens here :

Yes I have some weird technics. Here's the explanation: Acting aloof until you go very agressive (Kiss + extremely heavy kino) fucks with a very hot girl's mind. But to be so aloof, you of course have to be absolutely not needy. This was the case for me because of how successful I was when she called me. I learned this early in my "seduction journey", because I have extremely high standards and have always approached nothing else than 8+'s (and often failed hard). Think about it : She's a model, there's a guy on a date with her and the guy just seems to feel great and confident, and yet he doesn't do much to show interest. She actually told me a month later "When we got in the 2nd bar, I thought you didn't like me. I thought you'd just be friendly and warm but didn't like me physically, you'd find me ugly. Which is weird, I don't think I'm ugly. But then you kissed me."
Assume attraction. This is easy when you get IOI's, but when you don't, try to escalate by little steps and see the reactions. Don't be afraid to try things.
Be friendly with the girl's friends. Always. It's very important that her friends send good feedback, a girl often needs her friends validation.
TAKE CARE OF YOUR BODY AND LOVE IT. I knew there'd be a chance of having sex that night, so I put some extra effort in hygiene and grooming. I had condoms ready. I had everything I'd need ready.
I don't like to "force stuff". Everything must feel like it's really smooth and natural for me. When I'm comfortable to do something, I go for it convincingly. This isn't obvious in this FR, but the time you need to get comfortable is very variable. Sometimes it's litteraly 10 seconds (insta-kiss in a club), sometimes it's longer. But don't wait too long or you'll get polarized in the "friends" bag. And you can almost never get out of that bag.
Please, please, please, be informed about sex. If you're virgin or is not too good in bed, I think some top posts on /r/sex are great, and ask them stuff too. Know how to perform good oral sex. Good foreplays. Learn the erogenous zones of a girl (there's more than just boobs and clitoris guys). Do kegels. Don't be afraid, don't stress too much about it, it's not a big deal. I remember my first time, I was so stressed I couldn't get it up for like 20minutes.

Ok, what happened next? We became FWB because the sex was really great. 3 months into it, she mentionned the idea of getting in couple, but during this 3 months, even though she was absolutely stunning and the sex was honestly the best I've ever had, I got to know her and she wasn't compatible with me. (We both have a busy life and it would have been very difficult, too). I said I didn't want a couple, but I understood if she'd want to stop everything. So we did. A very nice experience though ;)

Please ask a lot of stuff in comments. I'll answer it! (No pictures. I won't send them. I changed my mind when I received so many CreepyPM's)

Totally__Oblivious · 2013-07-23T18:25:00+00:00

very inspiring FR! How did you initiate sex from general conversation when you were in bed with her the first time?

2013-07-23T01:48:29+00:00

Great read. Thanks for the insight!

ericxfresh · 2013-07-23T02:14:12+00:00

Awesome stuff. Any tips for someone new at this that you haven't seen on the side bar?

Title	[FR] HB10 Professionnal Model : F-close [Part2]
Author	Seddit_b1ood
Upvotes	48
Comments	9
Date	July 22, 2013 8:02 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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