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Honest signaling AKA Costly signaling - the reason behavior doesn't matter much to girls

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October 5, 2015

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Title	Honest signaling AKA Costly signaling - the reason behavior doesn't matter much to girls
Author	[deleted]
Upvotes	0
Comments	5
Date	October 5, 2015 5:13 PM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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[–]TheXXL 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

In the animal kingdom what matters to females are things that a male cannot fake.

In the aminal kingdom there is also not culture, media, complex verbal communication and conscious thought. Just instinct driven interactions.

All aspects of a personality are easily faked (though you may be showing off your good acting skills)

And still people are getting deceived by it every day.

Anyone can fake confidence, charm, wit ect.

ALL ASPECTS OF PERSONALITY CAN BE FAKED.

you're repeating yourself.

This is why personality and behavior is not important, because it does not PROVE that you are that person.

It is very important. Women put much more weight on personality than you think.

What cannot be faked? Well how you look, how other people treat you (status) and things that girls can observe in this way.

And people treat me the way they think they have to/want to treat me. And this is mixture of: optical stimuli, behaviour, personal experience/culture etc. So personality IS important, wy more important than looks. Try to treat your waitress at a restaurant without respect, insult her, and then observe what happens. It doesn't matter how good you look it will not be nice for you.

Even things like muscles are costly signal because you cant really just lie about having big muscles, girls can see it right then and there.

So what's the point of your mental diarrea? Don't try to compare Animals with Humans, even though we share the same genome to a very hig degree, our behaviours are inherently different. Even our mating behaviour is slighty different from a Lion for instance.

[–]driftwood1231 points 10 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]TheXXL 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Our mating strategy is different from a lion because our lives are not spent gathering food.

That´s right, but also we have evolved a more sophisticated brain, that makes us different from every other known species on this planet.

The most analogous primate to us are tropical birds of paradise (they have unlimited food--even apes have to spend all day gathering and chewing) Tropical birds are the song and dance birds and they also grow extremely crazy plumage to get a mate.

They still have no capacity to think, rather than act on instinct.

Does it not make sense that a female is going to judge you more on things that you cannot lie about and be skeptical of the things you can?

In a purely theoretical world, maybe. In this world, where there is practical evidence, it is more difficult. I have to agree to one point, that if you are just faking it, without having the proper training, it will most likely come off as creepy. Still there is more to it than just looks. Looks are one thing that makes people attractive, and it is the first thing another person has, to be able to categorize you, but then there is another thing, behaviour. Have you ever talked to a female friend about what she wants from a man? I did this so many times. They all ramble about how he has to be big, muscular etc. But then, look at who they get with. In my life i met very very few women who chose the overly handsom guy over the cool guy that makes her feel right, and even those few cases broke up and went to another guy that was not so handsome, rather than a real personality.

Or another example, a female friend of mine, single, invited me to go partying. I met a "friend" (she knew him just from her roommate) of hers that was, and i quote her: "very good looking". She wanted to fuck him, and from what he told me, he also wanted to. A few days later i asked her if she got him... she ansered: "Well he is sexy as hell, but when he starts talking i get all dry between my legs... he is so stupid." So there it is, behaviour over looks, and this is not the only experience i made in my life, there are countless others.

[–]driftwood1231 points 10 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]TheXXL 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LOL you really had to reach for that. A voice is extremely important also. How deep your voice sounds is part of looking good also

Yes it does it's part.

The thing with confidence is that, like i have said, i have a 5'5 indian guy who I've gone out with. I've never seen his confidence get him a hot white girl. He has approached hundreds over and over.

And again... here we have the typical argument: indian, short with looooots of confidence, can't pull hot white women. Have you ever heard of the term: selfsabotage? or self fulfilling prophecy?

If your friend is just doing the same thing, over and over again, even though it does not work, what does it prove? Right, that he is stupid for not trying another approach to the problem. Also i cannot prove that your friend a) even exist, b) really is indian, short and had "hundreds of approaches" c) has had more than 2 or 3 approaches on "hot white girls". So this argument is pure fiction for my part. And even if you are absolutely honest, which i doubt, since, why should you? We don't know eachother, you owe me nothing etc. there are still so many more factors to incorporate to why he fails, which still does not make your first argument a fact.

Anyways, there are hundreds of facts to prove that your animal kingdom analogy is simply not true, so there is no more reason to discuss.