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[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You missed an easy fuck.
[–]blackjesus75 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
God damnit! 😂
[–]Moderatorrecyclablebanthas 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do you kiss a woman on the first date?
There's no one size fits all answer to this. Some girls you can go from introduction to sex in under an hour. Some wait to kiss until Date 2 or 3 or more.
Depends on the girl and whether you're fine with her pace. We can't tell you the answer here.
Hi fellas, first post here in /r/seduction. Recently went on a date with a really cool chick. The date went really well and after dinner she invited me over to her place out of the blue.
Yeah, you probably could have gone further. Kissing, if not more.
We spent the night just talking and just having good conversation getting to know her. Now there were several occasions I felt like I could have easily gone for a kiss but decided not to for whatever reason........it was the first date and we hardly know each other. Opinions?
You don't have to justify yourself. Sounds like you felt that she was flagging you in for kissing or sex, but you weren't ready yet.
Where is it written that ANYone has to put out? You do you.
Now maybe she just wanted casual so you not making a move was a turnoff for her. That shit doesn't matter because you need to be consistent with your values.
However, if you were actually down with casual sex or quick sex, then yeah, you kind of messed up. But just escalate next time.
[–]Booster93 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
its just "the way it is" that most of the tie guy shave to make the move. your both over the age of 18, she has some knowledge or common sense of the social world. she invited you to her house at night , you have to try. Girls just dont want to look like or have the preception of them being hoes/slutty ect. You were in her house with her permission alone at night and she didnt call the police or run out screaming..... youre in there man.
[–]omegavil 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Date as in, develop a relationship, or to eventually land her in bed and have some fun at a later date. I have kissed on the first meetup always. She might of invited you back in hopes to do something, and when you didn't, her needs weren't met. The likely hood of wanting to meet you again could have reduced massively, but I don't know how your contact is currently. She could of felt comfortable inviting you back because you weren't doing kino, or trying to kiss. Kissing is good, it shows mutual attraction, escalates closer to bed. Were you in her house when she said about her nervous habit? You should use that as a cue to escalate. for example, "i'll help you take it off so it's not a distraction." then just unzip it, if she's receptive, hold the back of her neck and pull her in for a deep kiss. Take off the jacket while undressing her and yourself.
[–]tckmachine 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Either way, you need to have sex. I've only found a mild correlation between ONS and never seeing girls again after ONS. If she can tell you are good fuck, and she wants to develop some relationship (FWB or whatever) with you, she'll make it known. Either by hitting you up again, being receptive to meeting up again, or not having sex with you on the first date (despite your attempts).
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not necessarily, but you should on the 2nd date. You have to ramp up the interest on the 2nd. Women are looking for cues from you too, if you're not at least holding hands she may think you just don't like her.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't think that not kissing her creates any negative vibes. I'm a girl, it wouldn't make me mad, only frustrated maybe if I really like the guy haha. You probably just have her on the edge for more ;). I think the fact that she mentioned that nervous habit shows that: a) she's opening up to you b) she's trying to tell you she's nervous - and why else would she be if she weren't seeking a kiss?
See her again and kiss her if it feels right. Don't let your inhibitions stop you! You can always just ask her as well.
[–]blackjesus75 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for your insight! Makes me feel better about it. :)
[–]tckmachine 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
People have different answers to this. Basically depends on how strong your game is. If you have bulletproof game, and by that, ability to lead an interaction in the direction you want (escalation), logistics, all lined up, and most importantly, ability to gauge a woman's interest level and horniness, then you should go for it.
And go for that night's lay too. If you lead her properly towards sex and then end that night's interaction before sex happens, she will likely never see you again.
The safer option for beginner seducers is definitely wait on that kiss - but the first date should be short (under an hour), full of conversation, and still have escalation and kino.. just not as aggressive. Its basically to build baseline minimal attraction and build enough comfort.
I don't think my game is all that strong, but I know I'm way above average. While I don't think this is necessarily good enough for the way I do things, I always go for it if even with my limited toolsets it looks like she would be even a bit receptive. Yes I've blown out dates this way, but I've found that most women like my level of aggression - YMMV everyone has their seduction style. (Also, be careful so that you don't look creepy/needy as you do this, like anything else congruence is key)
I personally think most women feel more invested if you have at least made out with her, even though that probably comes from bullshit societal programming.
TLDR: in TM's opinion: if you have decent game and you can tell it won't be creepy, go for it. If you are unsure, then don't.
[–]blackjesus75 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah I mean I could have easily made it happen I was just curious if it will hurt my chances at having a LTR, I guess it varies from woman to woman though.
Correct. Don't think 'will this hurt my LTR chances.' It happens or it doesn't and all relationships start with sex anyways.
[–]iskander_the_great 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I usually fuck a woman on the first date, if that answer your question.
[–]Sad_Sleeper 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Whatever reason was you inner voice, overthinking it. Next time when that happens, just go for it. I recently wen out on a date with a pretty nice girl and we were chatting, i wasn't even nervous, i was having confidence in myself(that's the most important thing). Just went for the kiss, while i only had 1 kiss in my whole life. So Guess what happened. It went perfect :P
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