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[–]TunechiOnYoTunaFish 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Glad you got some action and your night got better. A couple thoughts.
I'm not going to play moral police here, as this is a pickup forum, but for your own good you might want to shy away from hooking up with girls who have boyfriends, especially if those boyfriends are a few feet away in a public place where lots of his friends are. That could have ended VERY badly for you if she suddenly decided she wasn't feeling it and went and cried to her man--which is a very real possibility seeing as she lost it and cried a few other times.
Secondly, you've got to get out of your head, man. This read to me like if Holden Caulfield was a real person in 2017. A field report should be about concrete things that happened with notes on what worked, what didn't work, etc. I know you're an introvert. So am I. It's tough in this hobby to be an introvert, because if your mindset isn't right, you are essentially competing not just with a bunch of other dudes, but with the discomfort of social situations where everyone else is talking to each other and you don't know how to get in.
You might benefit from just some really basic approach exercises--not even approaching girls, necessarily (although the earlier the better)--I mean just setting a goal of trying to carry 3 individual 3-minute conversations per day with strangers. If it doesn't last 3 minutes, try with the next person you see. Doing this will build your cold approach skills so that you don't have to rely on social circle game. Social circle game can feel awesome because, if you have high SV in that group and you are attractive, you can pimp like a motherfucker. However, it can also be terrible--if you don't have high SV and you make moves on girls in the group, they will all tell each other about you and you suddenly become the "creepy weirdo" who doesn't get invited to stuff anymore. I learned this the hard way when I was younger. Cold approach, while it feels very unnatural and difficult, teaches you to overcome social anxiety so that you can meet people, hot girls included, on your own without having to be a friend of a friend. The benefits to this are many: endless supply of attractive girls, not having any real consequences if you bomb and creep someone out, possibility of casual hookups without any friends judging you, and more.
Just some thoughts, man. Again, I'm glad you ended up having a good time and getting some female attention. It can be weird spending several hours with a group of people you don't know, when you don't hit it off super well.
[–]throwawayescalater 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I appreciate the response.
Yea morally this may have been not the best. She said she wouldn't tell her BF, but you never know. That is one of the reasons I got the fuck outta there so fast. To be honest, I wasn't 100% sure they were dating until after our first kiss.
I don't know if I agree here. Of course I need to get out of my head. That is what I am working on. However, if you met me, I bet you would think my outter game was decent. Inner game is more important to me than outter. That is why I focused this FR on outter. I need the most work on that part of my game. Of course I could have made it sound like I was a pimp by just showing the outter game. I could have been like, "Then I put my arm around her. I noticed she that she sort of leaned in so I took that as an IOI." But that would not have been useful to me. You have to understand that I know how girls act. Most of my friends at school are girls. I am a musical theater nerd who is on the US national team for squash. From the musical theater, I am very comfortable talking to and touching girls. From the sport, I have a nice aesthetic. Girls are also comfortable with me. I have heard the comment, "You flirt with everyone, but I know I can trust you" a lot. I would argue that I was kinda doing cold approach yesterday because 10 out of the 11 people in the group I did not know. The girl I hooked up with I met only hours before. This is not to make excuses for not cold approaching. I should probably do that. I live close to a park, and I want to get better at talking to strangers before college.
I don't think my SV was high, but I still managed. People probably found it odd that I didn't drink, smoke, or vape. I guess my outter game overcame the low SV. Would love to hear your comments on this. I don't really social game. I have only ever hooked up with a person I really knew once for that reason. Come to think of it, I have never actually gotten rejected by a girl because I don't overtly hit on girls often.
Again thanks for your feedback. I would love to hear more from you, and I will hit up some of that cold approach.
PS. I loved "A Catcher in the Rye" in 7th grade.
[–]TunechiOnYoTunaFish 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hey, no prob, man. The details here help provide some context and framework. I was just going off of what I read in your original post. It sounds like you've got a good head on your shoulders, and you'll go far. Keep it up. :)
[–]CibrecaNA 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not a great write up. Stream of consciousness made it confusing. Didn't know you were talking with the woman with the bf until way too late. Also your use of 'hook up' is incorrect. A 'hook up' implies sex. You were 'making out' and I'm guessing 'fingering.'
Seems more like you took advantage of an intoxicated woman while sober than, say, seducing her. Also, you should be careful with that because you could get in big trouble for 'rape' or 'sexual assault.'
Either way, I'd mirror the other advice and just day game. It really isn't worthwhile to either get accused of sexual assault or get physically assaulted over another person's woman. Not saying Don't go for another person's woman and not saying don't only go for sober women. Just saying it's a recipe for disaster if you go to another person's woman while they are intoxicated and while that person is pretty nearby.
If she at any point says, "You're cute," or "he finger banged me at the concert." Your 4/10 experience can get you in trouble.
But yeah, this isn't seduction.
[–]throwawayescalater 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
fuck. didnt realize.
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