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Female Marine fails grueling test. Not her fault though...

yeerk72

April 21, 2014
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/power-players-abc-news/a-marines-story-women-set-up-to-fail-usmc-s-most-grueling-test-223033894.html

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Title Female Marine fails grueling test. Not her fault though...
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yeerk72

Upvotes 4
Comments 21
Date April 21, 2014 3:22 PM UTC
(12 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/23lg0e/female_marine_fails_grueling_test_not_her_fault/
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[–]hairaware8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

She seemed pretty fair in her assessment. She said the most important thing for me which was that the standards are there for a reason and they should not be altered. She just wanted more preparation available. It's like in university, you always want a review of what you need to be study. Its a sense of entitlement people have grown to be accustomed too. She noted that she could've prepared better.

She has no right to that preparation but I dont really see the issue here.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Preparation is plenty available. Look on the web site for physical requirements and tests you will need to take, train with your recruiter, talk to young veterans and current Marines, look up what boot camp will entail, go to mock boot camps, etc..

“First and foremost, the standards cannot change,” Santangelo said. “Those standards are there for a reason, a Marine infantry officer, the expectations that they need to meet is to be able to lead Marines in combat and win battles.”

At least she has a good atitude about the whole thing.

[–]hairaware1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Then I was mistaken

[–]yeerk72[S] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

"At a petite 5’3’’, Sage Santangelo may not look like a combat fighter at first glance. But the female second lieutenant has never let that hold her back from pursuing her dream of becoming an infantry officer in the Marine Corps.

Growing up, Santangelo found she was always able to keep up with the guys and enjoyed playing hockey on all boys’ teams. But when she joined the Marines, Santangelo found the playing field changed; she was segregated into female-only training units and as a woman, was relegated to less strenuous physical training than her male counterparts. And that’s why, Santangelo told “On the Radar,” she didn’t have a fair shot at passing the Marine Corps’ Infantry Officer Course."

[–]Clauderoughly13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Growing up, Santangelo found she was always able to keep up with the guys

Someone needs to tell her the truth. All the guys were going easy on her / letting her win because they all wanted to holster their cock in her.

[–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's amazing to me how many women think they are physically equal to men. Then once the man proves he is physically superior they get blown away by it. They see too many women kicking ass on tv and think they can do the same.

[–]Clauderoughly4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women get a huge shock when they encounter someone who doesn't take it easy on them.

[–]IM_PRETTY_RACIST2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That and she's now trying to compete with Marine Corps Officer candidates. These guys are in pretty stellar physical shape to begin with.

[–]_Fony_5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

check your link

[–]RedSpectrum 2 points2 points2 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You have the wrong link.

THIS is the one you want, the yahoo news article. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/power-players-abc-news/a-marines-story-women-set-up-to-fail-usmc-s-most-grueling-test-223033894.html?vp=1

Edit: OP edited the link

[–]Cosmicandy6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

the ban against women in ground combat was lifted last year

This was a terrible fucking idea, even if the women can meet the physical standards necessary for the job.

The mere presence of a woman within a combat unit fucks up the entire dynamic and weakens combat effectiveness. When shit comes to shovel, a soldier must be individually disposable for the good of the group. No person is considered more valuable than another, this is why the military strips away a lot of individuality during its training process. A unit must also follow orders unanimously. Dissension fucks up everything.

Add a female into this dynamic, and you have a group of men shouldering the burdens of one woman, needlessly endangering their own lives further and the lives of their fellow soldiers. It's instinctual, men are the disposable sex and they know this on a primal level even if they don't realize it consciously. When they get the order to abandon a female soldier for the sake of the overall war effort, every bit of evolutionary hard wiring is telling him that this is wrong and to defy what he is being told. Men who failed to adequately protect their women died out in caveman days because they had nobody to reproduce with.

Female ground combatants are a threat to national security. I'm willing to concede women are capable of a lot of the same jobs men do if they put their mind to it, but this is where I draw the line. It's not their fault, but we must attend to reality. You are literally sending more people home in bodybags for the sake of equality.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Santangelo is one of 14 female Marines to have attempted -- and failed -- the grueling course since the ban against women in ground combat was lifted last year. Passing the course is a requirement for any Marine looking to become an infantry officer; and the reality that no woman to date has been able to pass is just one of many challenges the military is facing in fully implementing the ban’s repeal by the 2016 deadline.

So let me get this straight.

After all that sound and fury over repealing the ban, only 14 women have even attempted to join combat roles (03 MOS), and not one single woman has made the cut?

“I got to a point throughout the test that my body just couldn't perform anymore,” she said. “And I wasn't able to complete the task that I needed to be able to complete; and you know, I couldn't continue past that point. So, myself and 26 other men all failed at this point. So, it was a tough realization. I really wanted to believe I had a shot of making it through.”

And there you have it.

[–]HighAngleAlpha03314 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"believe!"

MUH FEELZ!

Can't fucking believe this idiocy. When I was in the USMC, the School of Infantry was the insanely difficult. Physically and technically challenging. But wahh wahh fucking crybabies destroying the Corps just like every other bastion of Western civilization out there.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have a friend who is a marine, when he went in he was probably one of the most fit people I've even known. Even he talked about how grueling and miserable the whole ordeal was. I'm tired of lowering standards in our society to prevent people from feeling bad/getting offended. Maybe some people need to be offended, it's better than the alternative of complete mediocrity.

[–]HighAngleAlpha03310 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Former USMC grunt here. Fuck the idea of women in combat. I'm not gonna deal with some menstrating dumb bitch in a fire fight and if I get tagged and need to get carried out no amount of tumblr posts or feels or therapy will get that shit done. Destruction of western civilization at its finest

[–]HighAngleAlpha03310 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Fucking absurd. I was a machine gunner in the Marines and we NEVER had easy days!

This is a perfect example of woman/mountain. "Let's just lower everyones standards! Hey, this obese 45 year old flannel wearing carpet mucher wants to be a grunt, let's just let her do it! Who needs training!"

Tiny bitch isn't gonna drag my big ass out of a fire fight.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Did you read the article?

“First and foremost, the standards cannot change,” Santangelo said. “Those standards are there for a reason, a Marine infantry officer, the expectations that they need to meet is to be able to lead Marines in combat and win battles.”

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Women are equal to men in many things.

Physical strength, endurance and taking large physical risks are not among them.

[–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vXXMswCMzU

[–]Thorgusta-1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women in combat is a terrible fucking idea. And while her assessment is fair somewhat. I'll say she didn't seem as bitter as most average women would. But set up to fail is the whole of the officer infantry course, get fucking used to it.

I didn't whine through boot camp and I went in blind as a bat and unprepared. It was 13 weeks of hell this cunt already went through basic OCS she knew damn well what was coming and had ample time to prepare so for her to complain about is utter bullshit. Don't believe her crap for a second.

[–]FreetoFire-1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Read that Jezebel article about women bragging about beating up their boyfriends? Read JudgyBitch's response.

Women don't seem to understand that they can only (for the most part) keep up with teh menz because teh menz want to bone them so they tone down the speed.

And because society is scumbag and tells us it is the lowest form of cowardice to raise your hand to a woman but if she slaps you, it is applauded and means you done fucked up

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