Check this out:

https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/8wn3tl/im_about_ready_to_give_up/

This guy has everything important--and tries everything--and gets nothing back.

Assuming this guy is for real (it is apparently a new account, which raises suspicion), it is not enough to take self-improvement seriously and try everything, not even when you have a solid base.

That said, the point of this post is not to try and emphasize a "harsh truth" model for getting action (as in: have more social status than the next guy, make more money than the next guy, THEN and only then)... no, that's what I don't want to believe.

Let us reverse the situation. Is there anyone here who has virtually none of what this guy has--a shitty foundation--and hasn't stretched himself thin trying to improve everything, and still gets women? If so, what is it you have?

My question is not aimed at "tall/very attractive guys" in their 30s who have no job prospects--we know an amazing look is enough on its own--but rather guys who don't have any outstanding feature, and/or you're a genuine loser, and still get women. I'd rather learn from someone on my level, anyway, since I don't think those in a higher league have any lessons I can learn from.