People responded negatively when i said...

Captain_w00t · 2019-03-31T15:59:09+00:00

Nice guys are not Men. A Man can be nice too (or they should), but it remains Man. A nice guy isn’t a Man, all he can hope is friendzone.

I’m using the term Man meant as “healthy grown up adult, that knows how to fit into situations and cares about himself enough to not be a doormat”. I’m not into bullshit concepts like being alpha, etc.. I totally reject things like that. I’m just saying that being sincerely healthy and confident is the main key to being considered valuable or attractive, regardless of wealth, look, job, etc.

On the other hand, the NiceGuy™️ , or the doormat: extremely available, always kind, far from being confident about himself, sometimes desperate enough that whatever opportunity comes in, it becomes the new fetish to follow. That’s why they are appreciated as friends, but not as love/sex mates.

Treat women LIKE you don’t need them

“like”?! That’s the fault! You don’t have to “act like”. You just need to be yourself AND this means that you have to treat any person as you normally would. Being nice and kind, or even going straight showing your interest is not a bad thing if done the right way. The difference is made by your confidence and by how you react to shit (be it a test or not).

I’m usually kind, nice and honest with anyone. I don’t put expectations. I’m also usually available, but I’m able to say NO, and call someone out if I don’t like something. I don’t fear rejection. This translates into being rejected (sometimes), being appreciated by people (very often many women have changed their mind after they have seen me being cool with rejection or shit test, then started chasing me).

It’s not a matter of some ”strategy” or magic tricks. I’m just myself. And no, I’m neither a super nice-looking-fuckable guy (41yo, maybe between 5-7?) I get 4-5 matches per week on Tinder, with a very low quality profile (only 1 lame pic with sunglasses, silly bio). But WHEN/IF it comes to texting or meeting in real life, I’m pretty good at it.

White_Mlungu_Capital · 2019-03-31T22:21:04+00:00

Only when you treat the interaction with complete disregard for the outcome while moving things along through the escalation ladders will you be able to truly be successful in gaming and seducing women.

I agree with your phiosophy, treat them like you don't need them is really important, because even if you been married for 5 years, once the women smell needy behaviour they distance themselves and you lose them.

recyclablebanthas · 2019-04-01T05:25:30+00:00

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People responded negatively when i said “Treat them like you dont need them” “The more you value women the worse it gets” Thats my response for them

No one should be looking for a girl to complete them. No one should be making their whole life revolve around any other particular person, including a girl.

That said, prioritizing one's life, doesn't require devaluing women or treating others badly, which is probably what people assumed you meant.

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.....putting women on pedestal,I subconsciously had to treat them nicely & i was not so honest with them,saying comforting lies And literally i didn’t go anywhere with such attitude....

Yeah, comforting lies, lack of honesty, treating them nice at the expense of yourself...... all don't work very well.

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I mean no disrespect to women but Women want challenge (they don’t want that “always available guy” who would do anything to make her happy )

It's exactly right that girls don't want (or respect) a guy who is always available and would do anything to make her happy.

But at the same time, "trying to be a challenge," is almost compensating too hard.

It's less about trying to be a challenge. It's more about just being a guy who will take care of his own life and not lose his head over a girl.

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Asshole is on high demand ,because he is confident

This is something that's often misunderstood.

Confidence does not require being an asshole.

One can be confident, not a doormat, and be kind to a point also.

There's a difference between being kind and letting someone walk all over you. You can be kind while still enforcing your personal boundaries.

The problem with trying to show confidence by being an asshole, is that being an asshole usually involves taking from others to prop up a false sort of confidence.

Title	People responded negatively when i said...
Author	tizokoko
Upvotes	7
Comments	7
Date	March 31, 2019 2:49 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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