[22M] Need some help fam.....

HurricaneDallas · 2019-08-02T17:26:22+00:00

Hey man,

I've been teaching men to do well with women for 2 years now. I've taught men in-person, over the phone, and via Internet. And one of thing I've noticed, again and again, is that guys primarily struggle in 3 distinct areas. If a man can handle all 3 of these areas, he's on easy street with women -- they are:

  •   Attracting women
  •   Interesting women
  •   Closing women

If a guy learns how to attract women, interest them, and close them, he's got it down and he can coast (at least with women) for the rest of his days and not have to worry about the girl problem ever again.

Thing is, each of these three areas are categorically different.

Yet, most of the information that's out there treats them like they're the same.

In other schools of thought, attraction is something you create through your actions.

But from everything I've seen, attraction is something that stems from who you are. Building up your fundamentals is the most important thing you can do to attract women. It's absolutely, positively crucial.

Believe it or not, women are every bit as unlikely to let words influence their level of attraction for a man. He can talk until he's blue in the face, but if he comes across in unattractive ways, the best stories in the world won't win a girl over for him.

I've watched attractive men do nothing and go home with the girl. And I've watched unattractive men tell women stories about the hot women they've dated, the exotic places they've traveled, the expensive paintings they've bought, and had the woman walk away from them bored and uninterested.

Attraction is not about what you say. It's about who you are and how you come across.

I've found myself working with more and more guys recently who are coming from a background of having practiced pick up as taught by some of the older schools of seduction out there, and I'm finding them some of the most difficult to train. This is primarily because they come in with a deeply entrenched belief that they need to convince girls they're attractive.

So, they end up adopting all kinds of lines, routines, and stories that they use while talking to girls that they intend to help them show those girls how attractive they are so that women will choose them.

What ends up happening is that these guys work, and work, and WORK, to try and attract women.

Which, of course, violates one of the principle underlying tenets of attraction:

Women are most attracted to the most effortless, effective men.

The man who beckons a woman to cross a room and come to him isn't just twice as sexy and powerful than the man who gets up and walks over to her himself... he's ten times as sexy and powerful. Maybe more than that.

Hope that helps a little bit!

If you wanna know more or have any other questions, feel free to message me.

Cheers,

Jax

porn-chicken · 2019-08-03T10:40:15+00:00

The sidebar has the answers to all of your questions.

Game isn't your problem, it's getting over your fear of rejection. Fact is, you will appear creepy to some women and there is nothing you can do to stop it.

You will appear creepy, to some women.

Fearing being perceived as creepy, ironically, makes you appear more creepy as you try to mask your intentions.

Game will not make up for this. You have to learn to be comfortable facing rejection.

I disagree that you should game differently for different women. That's a good way to attract incompatible girls.

Be careful with advice from women on how to attract women. Particularly with platitudes like "be yourself". "Smooth" is another unhelpful line. While well intended, male attraction is very different from female attraction.

Title	[22M] Need some help fam.....
Author	elbowdeepindebt
Upvotes	1
Comments	2
Date	August 2, 2019 5:12 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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