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Catholic Manhood

espositojoe

May 13, 2024
15 upvotes
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Mother Mary Angelica, Founder, EWTN Interntional Broadcasting Company.

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Title Catholic Manhood
Author

espositojoe

Upvotes 15
Comments 11
Date May 13, 2024 3:54 AM UTC
(2 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1cqq5i6/catholic_manhood/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/catholic-manhood.1518351
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Comments

[–]hendrixski 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The complete quote makes it obvious she meant "people" but mistakenly used the colloquial "men".

Here's her full quote:

We Are Not Born Saints

Men are not born saints with special gifts and privileges. They fight against the world, the flesh and the devil and as they conquer, the Spirit of Jesus begins to shine through with more clarity. We sometimes confuse the particular mission of the saints with their holiness.

If compassion were to radiate through one, then healing would be given to that individual to manifest the power of God. But the charism is not part of holiness, it is merely an off-shoot β€” a gift to be given to others. It was God’s gift to the saint for the benefit of the people of God.

It is possible to possess charisma and not be holy. We see this clearly in the life of Judas. He spent three years with Jesus and possessed the power to heal, preach and deliver, but he himself did not grow in holiness. His weaknesses were aggravated by the power Jesus gave him for he saw it as a gift that bore his own person and pocketed little profit.

[–]hendrixski 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have a complicated relationship with religion. On one hand I do agree that religion perpetuates ages-old misandry that has restricted men to roles that are harmful to men's health and well-being. On the other hand I am a practicing Catholic who strongly feels that there are deeper truths within the teachings of the church about human dignity and about fighting against temptation so that we achieve the greatness we are meant (while conquering our bad habits, compunctions, and weaknesses).

This quote, I think, meant to address the latter: the struggle that every human must conquer to live the life they want to lead instead of succumbing to the life they would regret. I do not think it’s about men but about people. But then again it's up for interpretation just like all religious writing.

[–]espositojoe[S] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Mother Angelica isn't mistaken. Sacred Scripture uses the term Men as short for Mankind, which is to say the whole human race. The world is to conform to the Church, not the Church to the world.

[–]scumbag_teachers 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

ok?

Can you add some context are you fishing people go and do further to research if she supports Men's rights or is against them?

[–]_Genghis_John_ 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Love to see a Catholic post on here. Will pray for you op πŸ‡»πŸ‡¦πŸ“Ώ

[–]MannerNo7000 -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Religions want men to be men only in the traditional sense.

[–]OG_Rapist 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thank god.

[–]MannerNo7000 -4 points-3 points-2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

God isn’t real

[–]Financial_Economy_11 -2 points-1 points0 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Good that’s what we were meant to be. Not men who didn’t have enough balls to see what might happen if we actually tried.Β 

[–]MannerNo7000 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If god exists why are men treated so poorly and not help from god?

[–]MannerNo70001 point 2 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Lmao

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