have you ever let a women abuse and rape you because you felt "sorry" for her because how hard you thought her life was because she was a women?

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I don't see why you're getting downvoted. "Pity relationships" are common amongst women who stay with abusive men and men who have addiction issues. There's no reason to think that some men might be inclined to get into/stay in relationships for the same reasons that those women do. I myself have made excuses for and stayed with abusive women because I felt like their behavior was just a natural reaction to the stuff that they've gone through and could be worked past, what I didn't think about at the time is that making excuses for and sticking with someone that is abusive only enables their behavior.

These sort of extremes happen. Just a few years back, I read an article about a woman in the States who murdered her boyfriend by stabbing him over 30 times because he was trying to leave her or something, I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure she also molested his corpse afterwards or she had killed him during sex.

The fact of the matter is that women are just as violent, sexually perverse, and aggressive as men. They just display those traits differently, such as "Angels of death" (nurses that secretly murder patients), "black widows," mother's that snap and murder their children, women that have hysterical pregnancies and kidnap other women's children, women that manipulate men into having sex with them, women that intentionally game the court systems, etc.

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I don't see why you're getting downvoted.

must be talking about someone they don't wanna hear about? idk.

Pity relationships" are common amongst women who stay with abusive men and men who have addiction issues.

agree, i only happened to be thinking about the men here since....i am a man and its what i had first hand experience in hearing about it form someone else, kinda wish there was something i could do for the women side of things.

There's no reason to think that some men might be inclined to get into/stay in relationships for the same reasons that those women do.

agree.

I myself have made excuses for and stayed with abusive women because I felt like their behavior was just a natural reaction to the stuff that they've gone through and could be worked past,

i believe it, the mental gymnastics i seen people pull to make it such a relationship seem normal and okay is just insanely sad.

what I didn't think about at the time is that making excuses for and sticking with someone that is abusive only enables their behavior.

good point, also two wrongs dosen't make one right.

These sort of extremes happen.

yes and its very sad imo.

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure she also molested his corpse afterwards or she had killed him during sex.

how.........wholesome......

The fact of the matter is that women are just as violent, sexually perverse, and aggressive as men. They just display those traits differently, such as "Angels of death"

ngl i thought you were gone say women who murder yet have a halo over there head as some sort of victim.

women that manipulate men into having sex with them,

oh god, i remember a friend of mine had his female friend pressure him to be her sex slave, otherwise she would go off and have unsafe sex with random men who would harm her so he would feel guilty, so very fucked up (she also tired to force him to have her baby, yeeks)

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The best thing that you can do for women who are genuinely being mistreated is to inspire good behavior in other men, and if you have daughters one day, show them what a healthy father and male figure should look like, and to also teach them as well as any sons you have to hold themselves accountable for their own actions. Example: At my university, there was a woman who was sexually assaulted by her date. While this guy obviously shouldn't have assaulted her, to that same note, she shouldn't have been wandering around campus at midnight, in the dark, with a guy she barely knows. Even as a man, if a woman I barely knew invited me to someplace dark and sketchy in the middle of the night, I would say no.

Unfortunately, many people in abusive relationships make excuses for the person because of a poor upbringing with bad relationship examples. That's why I say it's so important to be a good father with strong values. You will inspire other men/your sons to behave properly and teach your daughters how to think rationally and make good decisions in the kind of men they allow to get close.

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The best thing that you can do for women who are genuinely being mistreated is to inspire good behavior in other men,

thats actually some really good advice.

and if you have daughters one day, show them what a healthy father and male figure should look like, and to also teach them as well as any sons you have to hold themselves accountable for their own actions.

i for sure will! everyone of my kids will be held accountable and more lol.

to that same note, she shouldn't have been wandering around campus at midnight, in the dark, with a guy she barely knows.

i agree, but you can't say that without people being angry and calling it victim blaming for trying to protect victims.....sigh.

Even as a man, if a woman I barely knew invited me to someplace dark and sketchy in the middle of the night, I would say no.

hell if a man did that too another man you know he would say hell no and everyone would blame him if he did go, why can't we women be held to the same standerds? seeing as they are our equals?

Unfortunately, many people in abusive relationships make excuses for the person because of a poor upbringing with bad relationship examples.

ogg i know and its annoys me because 1 there lots of people with bad upbringings who don't use that as an excuse to treat others like garbage and 2 am sorry to say this to people, but getting raped or abused does not make anyone a good person, that person could been a piece of shit even before they had something bad happen to them, the sad truth is some people are monsters even tho they had awful things happen to them.

That's why I say it's so important to be a good father with strong values. You will inspire other men/your sons to behave properly and teach your daughters how to think rationally and make good decisions in the kind of men they allow to get close.

i really will try my best to inspire others as best as i can, i want my family to grow up with good morals and too be safe.

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It is worth noting as well that the majority of inspiration comes from the positive development of your own character to such a degree that other men strive to be like you. Most of the time, it does not come in the form of belittling, berating, or bashing other men in public for their poor behavior without explanation or love behind your disapproval. Whenever a friend of mine behaves in a way that I don't like, unless their behavior is absolutely abhorrent, I wait until we are alone to voice my disapproval and give them advice on how to move past whatever it is they are doing. If they continue to behave the same, then I will firmly call them out in front of other people. If they still don't see a problem in what they are doing, then I will quietly cut contact with them. If whatever they did is abhorrent, as I mentioned, then I will warn people who try to get close with them through verifiable evidence. If I don't have verifiable evidence, I don't make bold claims about people that I once considered a friend. I just keep my distance unless I've seen genuine positive change in them.

Yeah the "victim blaming" BS is just cope for the delusional and a tool for the manipulative people to scapegoat and deflect accountability.

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It is worth noting as well that the majority of inspiration comes from the positive development of your own character to such a degree that other men strive to be like you.

i see, so i have to better myself so as to inspiration others? gone be honest i don't know what i could improve that much att this point.

Most of the time, it does not come in the form of belittling, berating, or bashing other men in public for their poor behavior without explanation or love behind your disapproval.

does love really work that well?

Whenever a friend of mine behaves in a way that I don't like, unless their behavior is absolutely abhorrent, I wait until we are alone to voice my disapproval and give them advice on how to move past whatever it is they are doing. If they continue to behave the same, then I will firmly call them out in front of other people.

and this works i am assuming?

If whatever they did is abhorrent, as I mentioned, then I will warn people who try to get close with them through verifiable evidence.

have you ever had to do that before?

If I don't have verifiable evidence, I don't make bold claims about people that I once considered a friend.

why is that?

Yeah the "victim blaming" BS is just cope for the delusional and a tool for the manipulative people to scapegoat and deflect accountability.

yeah i couldn't agree more.

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I imagine that many women secretly get off at least on the idea of overpowering a man or making him submissive to them. I've noticed that people's sexual desires often reflect what they feel they are lacking in their day-to-day life. For example, my ex was extremely into submitting complete control over what happened in bed/what she did when I was around because she is very high-achieving and always has to be in precise and calculated control of every single other aspect of her life. I have also met women who are exceptionally small in stature and are very dominant and aggressive, especially towards men they are with, because they often feel weak and inferior in a lot of settings. Not to mention that most women clearly know and take advantage of the fact that sex is a very easy and powerful way to manipulate men, whether that's through threats or other forms of manipulation it's all equally as powerful.

Either way, someone who decides to r×pe another person (whether or not the r×pist is male or female) has some serious issues, and you can't simply try and use logic to understand someone who is fundamentally prone to behave illogicaly. Even people who don't have serious mental/behavioral issues struggle to understand their own sexual desires/fantasies.

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I imagine that many women secretly get off at least on the idea of overpowering a man or making him submissive to them.

oh there for sure are.

I've noticed that people's sexual desires often reflect what they feel they are lacking in their day-to-day life.

your not wrong and i have noticed this too, my gf has a lot of pressure on her to do att home and in school, she needs to be perfect ech, so thats why she gets off on not having any power, to not be someone who everyone must look up to for once ech.

For example, my ex was extremely into submitting complete control over what happened in bed/what she did when I was around because she is very high-achieving and always has to be in precise and calculated control of every single other aspect of her life. I have also met women who are exceptionally small in stature and are very dominant and aggressive, especially towards men they are with, because they often feel weak and inferior in a lot of settings.

how interesting

Not to mention that most women clearly know and take advantage of the fact that sex is a very easy and powerful way to manipulate men, whether that's through threats or other forms of manipulation it's all equally as powerful.

agree, women are very sharp and to think they not is to underestimate them.

Either way, someone who decides to r×pe another person (whether or not the r×pist is male or female) has some serious issues,

i agree.

and you can't simply try and use logic to understand someone who is fundamentally prone to behave illogicaly.

oh no i seen people use logic to make them seem like the victim, there is this idea going on among a lot of men and women that if a women has been raped, abused or used drugs before that to make up for what she has been through/fix her the man MUST let her use him in a one side relationship (rape, abuse, and drain him of all money while giving him nothing back) and that there is no other way then that to make these women happy.

Even people who don't have serious mental/behavioral issues struggle to understand their own sexual desires.

i agree, not surprising since a lot of people don't get the chance or take the time to get to know themselves

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I'll have to look for the study, but essentially, there was a study done where scientists monitored mens brains as they went about their day in public. What they found was that when a man sees a woman that he finds attractive, his brain releases endorphins. Meanwhile, when a man sees a woman that he finds ugly, the reaction in his brain is the same as physical pain. So essentially, as we go about our day to day lives, being around women that are attractive is essentially like getting constant small high, while being around women that are ugly causes us high levels of stress.

We essentially subconsciously condition ourselves to try and only interact with mostly with women that we find physically attractive, even if they are mentally unstable or highly manipulative. This behavior is further enhanced by the "Halo effect" that affects both men and women.

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but essentially, there was a study done where scientists monitored mens brains as they went about their day in public. What they found was that when a man sees a woman that he finds attractive, his brain releases endorphins. Meanwhile, when a man sees a woman that he finds ugly, the reaction in his brain is the same as physical pain. So essentially, as we go about our day to day lives, being around women that are attractive is essentially like getting constant small high, while being around women that are ugly causes us high levels of stress.

i see.

We essentially subconsciously condition ourselves to try and only interact with mostly with women that we find physically attractive, even if they are mentally unstable or highly manipulative.

yeah i seen it and can believe it.

This behavior is further enhanced by the "Halo effect" that affects both men and women.

true.

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