The misandry of proposed misogyny laws in the UK, discussed in the Illustrated Empathy Gap. "How can 'contempt for, or malice and ill-will towards, women and girls' be made criminal but 'contempt for, or malice and ill-will towards men and boys' remain acceptable?" Some extracts in comments below.

wntk · 2025-04-15T22:12:03+00:00

"How can the deliberate, knowing and calculated omission of men and boys from equal protections be anything other than 'contempt for, or malice and ill-will towards' men and boys?"

wntk · 2025-04-15T22:13:29+00:00

"Overall, men are more likely than women to have experienced potentially harmful online behaviour or content in the (study period) (64% vs 60%).” Moreover, this finding has been confirmed in Ofcom’s 2024 One Nation report (Figure 63) which again indicates that men were more likely than women to have experienced potentially harmful online behaviour or content in the study period (four weeks in 2024) (69% vs 66%)."

The point of this is that if such a scenario requires laws against misogyny it should also require laws against misandry.

wntk · 2025-04-15T22:11:18+00:00

"We know that, de facto, we are not all equal before the law. Nevertheless, it was some comfort that, ideally – in principle – the idea of equality of all before the law was the acknowledged formal position. Not for much longer, not in the UK. Not in the land of Magna Carta, which enshrined that principle originally. We will shortly have, not just de facto bias, but also de jure inequality. We are about to enter the brave new world of “gendered law”.

There is nothing accidental about it. It’s not that a mistake is being made. “Gendered law” is the term which is being used at the highest levels of government – in Scotland anyway. And, as we shall see, England and Wales are catching up fast."

World-Three · 2025-04-15T22:38:17+00:00

Sheesh...

Being the baby brother with two older sisters and having a law like this would have made my life irrefutably worse... I already grew up with sisters and god-sisters who would hit boys and they'd all tell on men who hit back.

There are already stars, athletes and even regular people who make sure to document their encounters with women or visibly do things like make no contact in photos and things like that. Making a law based incentive for women to be more vile toward men while they've still been allowed free reign to hate and mock male struggles is just cheat codes at this point.

It also gives absolutely no understanding to why some violence takes place. If I know the government, the police, society, my family and maybe friends don't have my back. I have to take matters into my own hands to protect my sovereignty... Because clearly these people do not believe men deserve any, while at the same time insisting that men have all of it...

It's insanity...

wntk · 2025-04-15T22:16:16+00:00

"Article 2.1 of the Annex says, 'Online misogyny is perpetrated and witnessed in a variety of online spaces, across both larger services serving many audiences, and smaller services dedicated to proliferating misogynistic views and behaviours. On the former, misogynistic content can consist of hypermasculine narratives about how boys and men should behave and act towards women and girls, often in partnership with broader criticism of feminism, gender messages, or women’s rights.'

This does not quite say that criticism of feminism is misogyny, but it gets close – and many people do believe this anyway."

wntk · 2025-04-15T22:15:11+00:00

"However, the above alignment of misogyny with “feelings of, or beliefs in, the hatred of women” is worrisome. This is not about behaviours, then, but opinions. While Ofcom is not a legislative body, this is the outlawing of thought. And who will be deciding upon whether your opinions count as misogynistic. I know that many people – perhaps most people – would regard this site as misogyny. In practice the “hatred” bit is elided and your beliefs are judged to be misogynistic based simply on someone else disagreeing with them."

Lightning77Plus · 2025-04-15T22:27:04+00:00

What's to stop everyone in the UK from identifying as female in order to circumvent these new laws?

Just_an_user_160 · 2025-04-18T17:22:42+00:00

UK is one of the countries with the worst double standards in laws for men.

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