Too Aggressive

trpftw · 2015-12-09T05:44:17+00:00

You're probably not doing escalation correctly.

I did this once. I was making out with a girl quite a bit after a drunken night, and she was in my apartment. Then I got her in my bedroom and made out for a bit. Then, I guess I figured I was already in, so I just pulled out a condom and she was all like "wait wait wait... what r u doing etc." LMR type stuff. After I insisted a few times and she asked for validation because she didn't seem to have made up her mind, she eventually got annoyed and called a cab. (apparently just asking doesn't work, girls work in mysterious ways).

Eventually I did have sex with her, but it wasn't that night. I simply had to figure out how to escalate properly, and did it the correct way and it worked. The correct way is to build up to sex and turn her on a lot (not just with face kissing), and then use TRP techniques to fight LMR.

Also women don't understand talking and voice communication. They only seem to understand physical contact. Just honestly saying "hey I want sex" or "can we have sex" is never a good idea. So you should never do that.

MattyAnon · 2015-12-09T06:19:08+00:00

Hi Aggro,

If a chick can get more validation from you by not having sex with you, she'll do that. So don't continue to validate her when she's not having sex with you.

Things go forwards/backwards. Push/pull. She has to be emotionally stimulated, and part of that is the fear of losing you. If you push push push, eventually she'll just halt things, and that can be immediately before you think you're about to have sex. Don't make things a linear progression - girls don't work that way.

A girl saying she likes to take things slow means she likes to take things slow with you. This means she pegs you for a beta and isn't panty-wetting knee-shakingly hot for you.

In short: add some push to your pull. Make her jealous by flirting with other women. Make sure she's absolutely fucking certain you have other options. Verbalise absolutely none of this, don't talk to her about anything that's related to your relationship. Talking about it kills it all.

With women, you're walking the tightrope of "are you too good for her" vs "is she too good for you". Hypergamy requires her to find the best man she can. If it's too easy or too hard, she'll give up trying. You gotta keep the suspense, the mystery, the tension, while still being masculine as fuck and always leading.

This is gonna take you a while to get. You'll be fine, just keep bashing away at it. And definitely do be sexually aggressive - this is the only way to tell if a girl likes you. Obv. stop if she's not into it. And if she's not, there is nothing else you should do. Never ever think "alpha game failed, I'll go full on beta until she's hot for me". Women will lead you down this road and it's a lie. Don't be afraid to polarise. But also don't discuss the future. You are never ever committing to sex - because she will never agree to a sex date. Women like to pretend to themselves that "it just happened" after you invited her back to see your freaking dog or something.

Anyway... if you don't escalate, you'll be in friendzone limbo forever. Escalate relentlessly, and keep expanding your other options with other women. And worry about it less, you'll get better.

O3EAN · 2015-12-09T06:06:56+00:00

Try keeping the escalation to a minimum until you're inside her house, then once inside go slow and wait for the green lights instead of rushing and getting all reds if you know what I mean.

innergametrumpsall · 2015-12-10T13:56:39+00:00

You're not matching someone's demeanor. You have to use what's called "the velvet hammer."

Imagine this, you're relaxing at home after a hard day at work. And a girl walks in to your house and starts immediately screaming "parttyyyy time boyyyy!" and dancing on your kitchen table.

Entertaining or annoying?

Now imagine she comes in, sits on your table, pours you both a beer and says "how about we take this up a notch and go out drinking tonight?"

The difference between the two on the surface seems drastic, but underneath it all they're both the same message. "Let's go somewhere more high energy."

These women are telling you that you're coming in and jumping on their kitchen table, you're showing a low degree of social learnedness. You're showing bad manners.

Remember, it's a game. And you're trying to skip turns and\or flip the board. Monitor the pace their speaking at, the tone in their discussion etc and WRAP up your message and deliver it to them in a way they are most receptive.

Standard escalation push\pull apply.

PUAtalksRP · 2015-12-09T09:22:09+00:00

youre escalation is likely uncalibrated.

Title	Too Aggressive
Author	TrpAggroThrowAway
Upvotes	6
Comments	14
Date	December 9, 2015 5:29 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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