Great thread on bad-pickup environments and night game.

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February 11, 2013

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Title Great thread on bad-pickup environments and night game.
Author redpillschool
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Date 11 February 2013 04:35 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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[–]PrisonerOfLife4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bars/clubs are obsolete for most men. Women will only go to these venues to sleep with the top 5% of men, measured by looks/money/status. Out of every 20 men I meet, on average only 1 can regularly pull women from a nightclub/bar setting on cold approaches.

Women are really an all-or-nothing pursuit. This is why it's objectively better to be Omega than it is to be Beta - a Beta wastes huge amounts of time/money trying to be alpha but gets the same results as an Omega who doesn't spend a dime on worthless bar sluts. Unless the Beta somehow ascends to Alpha (which very few men can truly do, game or no game) he wastes a significant amount of his life pandering to women.

[–]logicalmisologist2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think that I unconsciously knew that the night scene had gotten bad, but I didn't want to admit it to myself.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

Kind wierd from my perspective, night game is and probably always will be where it's at in asia. Generally, asians (especially Japanese I suspect) seem to have serious issues converting from work mode into social mode. Which results in massive resistance when trying to d-game them. Social circle game works anywhere of course but it isn't very efficient for bringing in new lays on a weekly / daily basis.

With that said:

Women will only go to these venues to sleep with the top 5% of men, measured by looks/money/status.

This happens everywhere, the one advantage d-game might have here is if you pick a chick that doesn't get hit on often or with just the right timing then you've got little competition. Nonetheless, looks/money/status will always be a factor in her choice.

[–]logicalmisologist1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

I'm trying to imagine someone running successful day game in Japan, but it seems next to impossible.

And that's never having been there...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

There's guys that do d-game here, but as far as time investment / returns it isn't so hot. Especially considering how easy night game can be here. The only guys that can get away with easy d-game here would absolutely obliterate the night game scene as well, which again leads us to why do d-game then?

[–]RedSunBlue1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

One exception: Shonan in the summer.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

True, there are "good" locations for d-game ~

Still, shonan in the summer gets beat out by social events imo, it's workable though.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

As someone who never goes to the night scene, thank God.

[–]MonkeySteriods0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

So what do you suggest? Night game is good because it brings a bunch of unrelated people in the same room. Day game requires you to deal with an environment where girls are few and far between, also it forces you to deal with those who chose to isolate themselves from the world.

[–]bigkik0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If your a work-a-holic, then online dating, but if your not then move into social situations and places where women are plentiful. You can also use online find a social group things like and similar too.

[–]Bobsutan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The times I've been to Ultrabar in DC over the last 3 years, the male to female ratio fluctuated between 4:1 and 8:1. At this point they might as well call themselves a gay bar and be done with it.

Most clubs/bars these days are terrible to meet women at, unless you've got solid direct game and are only looking for one night stands. Guys that fit this description though are maybe 5-10%.

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