Just got back from a trip with 3 friends.

2 of the friends in question booked and stayed at a VERY expensive hotel, while me and the other friend stayed a reasonably priced hotel.

The reason they took the expensive hotel? 2 girls were supposed to come on the trip and they wanted to impress them with their 'hotel' reasoning that those are the kind of girls that don't go for guys in cheap hotels.

You can already imagine the shipwreck that's about to take place.

Despite my best best ability to reason with them, telling them that they're putting these girls on a pedestal, that they don't need all this shit to impress them and that no matter where they stay, if there's attraction they will fuck them in the backseat of a car just as well as in a 5 star hotel. Their response? "Nope, these are not that kind of girls, they are not the same". I just fucking stopped right there. I've lost connections and friends when imposing my RP views on them too strongly, so I just backed down and prepared my popcorn.

Girl 1 comes 2 days early. This girl has friendzoned my friend for over 3 years. He bought her dinner, icecream, and the agreement was that she sleeps in their hotel with him. All first night he complimented her up to the cringe point "you're beautiful, you look amazing in this dress, you're a 10/10 (seriously, how the fuck do you say something like that?".

We go out, we party. Me and my friend (who has been into PUA for over a decade, even makes a living out of teaching men how to pickup) were pulling girls left and right, getting shots bought for us, bouncing them and meeting more people men and women. All while the beta friend was staying and boring the fuck out of this girl. I could see her wanting part of the action that we were creating... but out of courtesy she was staying with the beta friend.

Night ends, me and PUA-friend pull 2 decent looking girls, we fuck them and try to switch. Switch fails. But that's another story, back to the point.

Girl 1 and Beta friend 1 go to their five star hotel room and they SLEEP together. From his words, he didn't even try to escalate, and when he hesitantly tried, she just wrapped herself and told him to sleep above the sheets. I couldn't fucking contain myself and told him straight up that she's playing him. He offers her his room, buys her food, drinks and all his time and she doesn't fuck him. I tell him that she either fucks him the next night or he kicks her out on the street.

Next night comes. Same deal, me and PUA friend are having a blast. Girl 1 can't take it anymore and leaves Beta friend 1 behind and goes to another club. At 7 AM in the morning Beta friend 1 calls her and asks her where she is. She is apparently at an after-party and he asks her if he can come. We all go there. Girl 1 is with EVERYONE. She's shit-faced, getting shots from guys, kisses one guy in front of beta-friend. We take a cab back to the hotel and I whisper in beta-friend's ear "fuck her, fuck her now". Gets her to the hotel, kisses her in her very drunken state, tries to fuck her but she pushes him several times. Props to him for at least trying, right? While he tries, he gets this brilliant idea that maybe if he licks her pussy she's gonna get turned on and she will let her fuck her. Nope, she lets him eat her pussy and passes out.

Let's switch the genders for a second: Guy goes to girl. Girl offers him her hotel. She buys him food and drinks. Guy ditches girl and goes to other clubs and kisses other girls. Guy comes home and gets a blowjob from girl and passes out.

I phrase it EXACTLY like that and tell him. His response "well, it's not really like that". I'M FUCKING FURIOUS, but contain myself and leave before I lose another friend because of some pussy.

Girl 1 leaves later that day.

Me and PUA friend decide that it's a waste of a 5star hotel if nobody fucks in it. The night comes, we go out, same deal, socializing, kissing girls, getting numbers, having a blast. I don't manage to pull anything, PUA-friend pulls a waitress and fuck her in the 5star hotel room that the betas paid for (the fucker even filmed it).

Me and PUA friend decide to end the trip prematurely since we were already there for 10 days and the budged was getting thin. We got our share of girls and fun. The 2 beta guys pulled and fucked NOTHING in 10 days. They are still there for another 7 days because another girl is supposed to come for beta-friend 2 in two days. His plan: to reserve a table in a VERY expensive club and impress her and her 6 friends by buying drinks and champagne at the table.

I think you can imagine the outcome. However, this will happen in 2 days from now, and I will post an update and a followup.

Things learned: Don't try to change the views of people on the nature of women. They will hamster away ANY logic you throw at them. They need to crash and burn HARD in order to learn. Alpha fucks / beta bucks is as true as 1+1=2.