Some thoughts on the irreversible truths of life

AlienSunrise · 2014-08-08T18:45:39+00:00

There's a lot you can do about your face, though. Skincare, grooming, beard or not beard, and your hairstyle all massively affect it. Selection of glasses. Collar.

Sure, an ugly dude is an ugly dude, but there's a wide range we're each in relative to our own personal maximum and minimum. Since women are a bit less visual, an ugly dude who does his absolute best and ensures his SMV is high in the non-physical attributes too can still do just fine.

Could a downs sydrome man with an insane body and unfaltering confidence pull a 6/10? I know its fucked up, but could he?

If he pulls up in a nice car, probably. I dunno if they let those guys drive, though

zephyrprime · 2014-08-08T19:59:49+00:00

We actually had a guy who was retarded (not down syndrome) in our pick up crew for a while. He was actually quite outgoing and confident too (happiness is the key to confidence) since he was literally too stupid to be insecure. It was impossible for him to get any girls. No girl was interested in him which was no surprise at all.

Unfortunately, I think the OP is right. Some guys just have low T or whatever other genetic problem. Low T is very visible on the face and it also prevents muscle growth. A good looking male face is simply a male face that has been exposed to a lot of T during development and also has the other basic genetic benefits going for him (symmetry, not too large/small features).

2014-08-09T04:34:29+00:00

I don't know about your question but I don't think sitting around thinking how sad and ugly you are is very manly.

kami_kakushi · 2014-08-08T18:58:00+00:00

if life dealt you a bad hand, bad looks, bad family, one arm, an accident, whatever, you just gotta deal with it.

there are plenty of people out there with issues that dont give up, and go on to achieve their goals. eg this guy climbed everest with no fucking legs : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Inglis

no excuses, just get up early, work hard, and live the life you want regardless of your possible shortcomings.

seriously man, i cant stand people who moan about stuff. most people are moaning about things that arent real problems anyway, just silly stuff they have in their mind like "i cant grow a beard", or "my belly is fat, woah is me, im an incel".

there are people out there with facial burns who are successful and get laid. so, when i hear people on here talking about their less than perfect faces, or how they are only 5'4' or some shit, i just think "loser". you arent short, you arent ugly, you are just a cry baby loser. :)

no ugly guy ever got laid? no short guys ever got laid? extreme example dany de vito.

/rant

2014-08-09T01:03:39+00:00

you are not meant to fuck hot bitches.

Well that's sad to hear lol. Cystic acne is a bitch especially in my 20's.

slappywhyte · 2014-08-09T05:33:25+00:00

"natures emergency brake on your shitty genes"

that's a good line

man you guys go harsh but often true in this sub

your anti-weak chin rhetoric may go a bit far

jmotrain · 2014-08-09T06:07:45+00:00

You guys are delusional in this thread if you don't think looks matter. If you aren't in the top 20% (and really 10%) in looks, you ain't pulling better than a 5 or 6, (6 if you're lucky). The only way to punch above your weight is to be extraordinary in status, (usually famous or have some unique talent). How many on here fall into that category? I certainly don't.

One exception, a friend of mine got a reputation for having a big dick and he was fairly alpha. He fucked a lot of girls in high school only being average looking. Funny thing, he couldn't get pussy after high school to save his life.

I'm in my early 30's and have probably been a 5-6 my entire adult life. I never did better than a 6 in my 20's. Now I know I will hear about game, status, money, confidence, be more alpha, blah, blah, blah. It is all nonsense. The guys I always saw scoring with hot women were good-looking guys, 8's and above. My friend Mitch is like a 9 or 10 and frequently had hot girls hitting on him (not the other way around). He actually settled down with a 9 after fucking who knows how many girls. The first time he met his now wife, she was with her boyfriend. That night, she sent her boyfriend home to hang out with Mitch (and fuck him). Poor bastard [the boyfriend, not Mitch]. Hypergamy sucks for us average men.

I've tried hooking up with hot women (for argument sake, let's say 7 and up), I never succeeded. Women do not fuck down or give pity sex. No amount of game is going to work if she isn't attracted to you and thinks she can do better. Now I don't blame any of these women for rejecting me but I was under some BP fantasy that looks don't matter. I thought behavior was a substitute for looks; it isn't. Sadly, I don't think I can get better looks wise than a 6. I will most likely never get above a 6. It is what it is.

If you ain't at least an 8, you are invisible to the majority of women (80/20 rule in effect). Sadly, female entitlement has fucked over a large portion of the male population. I've seen how women treat men uglier than me. It isn't pretty. Some of these guys will never have sex with non-pros. And I'm talking women who are below average to average looking.

This is TRP, we shouldn't blow sunshine up each others asses when we all know looks matter.

NPIF · 2014-08-08T21:00:08+00:00

I disagree. We already know women care far less about appearance than men do. And as Dick-Tracy said, there's a lot that you can do about your face.

Using the extreme example of a person with Downs is not representative of most men. Sure, a man with Downs Syndrome may not pull tail when he goes out, but it likely has far less to do with his attractiveness facially than the fact that he has a developmental disability.

One of the TRP truths is that women tend to care more about how guys make them feel. If a women feels as though a man is a strong, alpha presence, she is far less likely to care about looks. I would argue that unless you've got a facial disfigurement, you have a shot with hot women. You may have to make yourself that much more desirable in other aspects of your life (physical build, career success, social status) to compensate for less-than-ideal looks, but it's total bullshit IMO that less attractive men can't pull attractive women.

2014-08-08T21:03:23+00:00

Op is wrong. Compared to a nicely faced man, a dark triad guy will get more respect and sex out of many women in his social circle. Looks and status matter less because most men don't have that darkness.

favours_of_the_moon · 2014-08-08T20:08:30+00:00

I had a hunched back and walked with TWO canes, and I had them sitting on my lap feeding me organic yogurt off of their spoons and bringing me exotic fair trade chocolates manufactured in Bolivia. Competing for my attention.

It's how you conduct yourself.

I'm getting back on my feet now and walking/looking "normal" (still a bit puffy) and they no longer even have to "get to know me" first. That was somewhat of an issue before. Just sayin.

4to4 · 2014-08-08T18:21:04+00:00

When this occurs, you are left wondering what it is you did wrong, when in reality it's natures emergency brake on your shitty genes.

Lol, look around you. I don't think shitty genes have any bearing at all on getting laid. Just the opposite, the shittier the genes, the more likely you are to be getting women pregnant.

Title	Some thoughts on the irreversible truths of life
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Date	August 8, 2014 6:03 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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