First couple of dates, sex when and where

thepillwastaken · 2014-06-07T18:45:35+00:00

Yeah you need advice for sure because you are doing it all wrong.

First stop overthinking. Develop a pattern for your dates and just execute it on each girl. You can recycle it with the same girl as long as you change venues up. Derek Jeter, a millionaire star has a pattern that was exposed to the media, and he still still did it, because it didn't matter - have parties at his place, demo his value at party, fuck girl of his choice, send her home with gifts.

Online dating is a waste of time, and the lie sold to men who are divorced and older is that they are "too busy or old" for the single nightlife. Do not buy into that, and instead take care of yourself and make sure you are meeting women in person as much as possible. Trying to pick up women online who are extremely attractive only works on Tinder, since there are actually hot girls on it. Tinder is a 5 -10 minute a day investment of time, and allowing it or some website to be your sole source of dating resources is already a beta, passive mindset.

Back to patterns - Mine is simple - pick a venue near my place. I never do dinner. I prefer a quiet and relaxed bar that allows for conversation. I sit next to the girl, not across from her. I pull her to another venue when I feel like it for some spontaneity. Main goal is get to know her, see if I like her vibe, initiate physical contact. You most likely are giving off a vibe of overthinking and uncertainty because it reeks of it in your posts. You are not able to make a girl feel comfortable and then escalate her sexually as a result.

With low SMV girls this is easy and not much of a challenge. You need to be able to do this with more attractive women. Only way to learn is to have a dominant side which allows you to get over the looks of a girl and start screening them for traits that appeal to you. I rarely compliment a girls looks when I first meet them, and I only do that once we are clearly going to have sex or we are in the act of it. I prefer to tell a girl that I find her interesting or intriguing. Most men can not do this, and instead gush about how hot she is, or some other cliche shit that beta guys who don't get laid a lot do.

The fact that you are asking questions like - " should I do activity dates during the week..." etc is telling me you are giving off a vibe of neediness and insecurity. It tells me (and the girl, who is much more keen on picking up on these things than guys) that you are not getting laid by many hot women and are not sexually confident in bed.

In terms of your date - Who gives a shit what you do. I go out with girls..take them where we can get to know each other and I can escalate her sexual interest if I decide I want to do that. Since I barely care that much about the venue or what we are doing, it doesn't matter. I use the same pattern of quiet bar/bounce to a place to walk and talk or another bar.

Not all girls will fuck you the first time, which is fine. Does not mean they are not interested. Signs that a girl is interested in sex with you are pretty obvious, but - playing with her hair, talking a lot and asking you questions, accepting and giving back physical contact, enjoying discussion of sexual topics with you are all things you need to establish within the first hour of meeting. If you establish those things, the girl is interested in you sexually and you need to pursue that path. The longest a younger girl (28 or under, as I'm 35) has taken is 3 dates before sex. She showed signs throughout the process and I knew it would happen, she was attractive, and I continued to invest time.

The best way to achieve everything I just posted is to start rotating the low SMV girls. To me those were 6's at worst. Never go lower than that. Every girl must be attractive enough for you to take her out in public and be fine with people assuming you are dating.

From there you need to master dominance, and have sexual mastery of her. If you can not deliver in bed, this entire concept goes out the window because it is the key part. Once you have obtained sexual confidence you will exude that on your dates and WILL get laid a lot more often. Women are very very sensitive to a sexually dominant man, and it is not something that can be faked.

Once you are a sexually dominant man, you will cringe when you read this OP you made, and realize everything you asked is pointless and means nothing. At that point you should have 2-3 7s at all times who want your cock and you will be running the same date patterns on the 8s you are meeting.

For reference, I started when I was young and no RPT existed. I had to figure this shit out on my own. Once I realized the power of sexual dominance and abundance in my early 30s, I tweaked my approach and have witnessed incredible success.

The mentality here needs to be applied to you - (you need to develop your build - have muscles and sexual appeal), your job (using the abundance theory allows you to have the best job in your field possible, which allows financial freedom and a higher sexual value), and women.

Once all these things are developed and in alignment you will be at maximum value and be able to do things you currently would not think are possible.

[deleted] · 2014-06-07T21:46:39+00:00

Try not texting or talking on the phone prior to the first date.

David949 · 2014-06-07T22:35:17+00:00

thepillwastaken: Thanks for the well thought out reply. I like your points about developing a pattern.

One problem with a little paragraph written online is that its hard to fully convey yourself but after reading the above I can understand your assumptions. I have 3 plates right now and I have asked them what attracted them to me and they have all said the same thing. It was my confidence and sexual dominance. In fact they all say it multiple times over the months. Maybe it fucks with my head but they really go on and on about how great I am to them. I often wonder why my game works so well with them but not with other women.

Point taken about online dating. Online is easy and I tend to look for the more serious looking women then the hookup girls at the bars.

The question about when and where is due to that my daughter lives with me during the week and I am not bringing girls back to my house during the week. So my only time to bring women home is on Fridays or Saturdays when I have the house to myself. I just hate wasting my time on a first date on a Friday or Saturday and typically go for the sure thing with a plate.

So my question for TRP was more about what strategy works. I believe that I am developing a lot of the right qualities, but I can always use more work.

One last question about your pattern? For women you get to know and want to have sex with, you said you normally have sex within the 3rd date. Is that over 1 week or is that 3 weeks? I find that I cannot wait more then a week for the 2nd date. If I do there is no success.

I think one other issue I am having is going on lame dinner dates and not controlling the night well enough to end up at my place. Do you always meet at a place close to your house or do you meet at your house first then go on the date?

machimus · 2014-06-07T22:22:27+00:00

I guess you like writing long stories but don't like long replies, so I'll give you a quick one: these women are done with you after you buy them dinner and drinks. They're using you for a sugar daddy and you are failing to convert to sexual interest.

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