New to TRP and find your theories very interesting. But are there any other sexual strategies out there?

Demonspawn · 2014-09-12T22:49:32+00:00

You guys malign "sluts" for "riding the cock carousel," but also advocate "plate spinning," or having a "soft harem" of multiple women to fuck at all times, while committing to none of them. You could call it a "vag carousel."

Because: men want sex, women want commitment. A woman who gives out sex freely without gaining commitment is hurting her value. The converse of this is not a man who has a lot of sex, but rather a man who is giving a lot of commitment without getting sex (beta orbiters). As you can tell from a cursory glance of our posts, we find them to be hurting their own value as well.

But here's what I don't understand at all:

We are a group of men discussing dating strategies for men:

A woman who withholds sex and receives commitment... that's unacceptable.

You do not want to be this woman's partner.

But a Red Pill man who withholds commitment and receives sex... That's good?

You want to be this man, until you find a woman worthy of your commitment.

You guys talk a lot about how the Red Pill is a "sexual strategy." But surely sexuality is not so black and white...

It is.

There's what works, and everything else. If you want to be a part of everything else (i.e. what doesn't work) feel free. But don't complain about it not working nor complain about us trying to figure out what works.

Algermas · 2014-09-12T23:05:03+00:00

TRP theory is that women want commitment from a man, and men want sex from a woman.

Correct. Women also want sex, very much so. From Alpha males.

Men who provide lots of commitment and rarely if ever get laid, are called "beta" or "blue pill."

Men who provide little commitment and get laid all the time, are called "alpha" or "red pill."

Have I got it so far?

Indeed.

Women who take commitment from a man without putting out for him are "bitches."

Women who have sex with lots of men are "riding the cock carousel" and are "whores" or "sluts."

Again, correct.

Women who have lots of sex with one man only are "unicorns," and reportedly may not even exist.

There's much more to unicorn but yes, not being promiscuous is an important aspect of the unicorn.

You guys malign "sluts" for "riding the cock carousel," but also advocate "plate spinning," or having a "soft harem" of multiple women to fuck at all times, while committing to none of them. You could call it a "vag carousel."

Women control the sexual market place, spinning plates is making the best of the game with the rules/hand you're dealt.

So women who fuck a lot of people are "sluts," because it's easy - but men who do it are "alpha," because it's difficult. ...I can understand that, at least, even if I don't agree.

What's there to disagree with?

But here's what I don't understand at all:

A woman who withholds sex and receives commitment... that's unacceptable.

But a Red Pill man who withholds commitment and receives sex... That's good?

TRP is amoral, it doesn't pass moral judgement on right and wrong, it advocates what works.

Why? Now it's just the guy stringing the girl(s) along instead of it being the other way around! I don't see how that's any better. Someone please explain. Can't we strive for a balance somewhere between those two extremes?

No, women have set up the sexual marketplace in manner X, TRP men are merely making the best of what they have to work with.

You guys talk a lot about how the Red Pill is a "sexual strategy." But surely sexuality is not so black and white... or blue and red as you call it. Are there any other alternative sexual strategies out there that I can read about? Like a... purple pill? Yellow pill? Green pill? Anything?

You can, if you want advice that doesn't work.

Algermas · 2014-09-12T23:10:38+00:00

You guys malign women for riding the cock carousel, but are ALSO mad when they try to get OFF the cock carousel. example: http://www.redditlog.com/snapshots/978437

Once you're on the carousel the damage is done.

It all just seems like a no-win scenario for women. Is the only right answer in your eyes to never get on the carousel in the first place?

Yes.

Can't a person realize their mistakes and then try to improve themselves?

Curiously for women this realization almost universally coincides with turning 30.

Quitting heroin because your supply ran out and you couldn't find anymore doesn't mean you realized your mistake, it means you ran out of heroin.

I don't see what's wrong with a woman having lots of sex when she's in her prime and it's easy to get, then settling down later. If she brings nothing of value to the relationship, or cheats, or traps a guy in a suddenly sexless marriage, or marries and divorces a guy for his money, then yeah, that's a shitty thing to do.

http://i.imgur.com/rrLe319.jpg

Unfortunately promiscuous women make for piss-poor long term partners.

[deleted] · 2014-09-12T22:55:46+00:00

But are there any other sexual strategies out there?

"Worf, it sounds like it works great for the Klingons, but I think I need to try something a little less dangerous."

"Go to her door. Beg like a human."

(Yes I get the irony of that being Wil Fucking Wheaton.)

Beardsman2 · 2014-09-12T23:04:46+00:00

Women who recieves commitment from man with no sex is a player, man who recieves sex with no commitment is a player. They're 2 sides to the same coin. Stop thinking in terms of what is right and wrong, good and bad, moral and immoral and you will understand.

The equal exchange of sex and commitment is traditional marriage, whereby the man provides ongoing commitment, provision and protection and the virgin women provides ongoing exclusive sex and lots of offspring. This is the building block of western civilisation - without it we are fucked.

[deleted] · 2014-09-13T00:02:40+00:00

If I were to give you a diagnosis, it would be somewhere between denial and bargaining. TRP pretty much is telling you that having a stable, happy lifelong relationship will be next to impossible. Just do you.

N165 · 2014-09-12T23:21:37+00:00

While I'm at it, I have another question.

You guys malign women for riding the cock carousel, but are ALSO mad when they try to get OFF the cock carousel. example: http://www.redditlog.com/snapshots/978437

It all just seems like a no-win scenario for women. Is the only right answer in your eyes to never get on the carousel in the first place? Can't a person realize their mistakes and then try to improve themselves? I mean, if sex was easier to get for men, surely you guys would still go for it, right?

I don't see what's wrong with a woman having lots of sex when she's in her prime and it's easy to get, then settling down later. If she brings nothing of value to the relationship, or cheats, or traps a guy in a suddenly sexless marriage, or marries and divorces a guy for his money, then yeah, that's a shitty thing to do.

But a woman having lots of sex and then settling down... I don't see the problem with that.

FortunateBum · 2014-09-13T00:45:13+00:00

TRP isn't a religion. You can do whatever you like with this information. You can write it down on a piece of paper and shove it up your ass and I won't even be mad.

But yeah, talk about making the is--ought mistake - you're faceplanting right into it.

Read this page and then get back to us.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is%E2%80%93ought_problem

Are there any other alternative sexual strategies out there that I can read about?

Actually yeah: dating, monogamy, marriage. Good luck on your journey.

MachiavellianRed · 2014-09-13T00:56:14+00:00

This belongs in /r/asktrp

Title	New to TRP and find your theories very interesting. But are there any other sexual strategies out there?
Author	N165
Upvotes	1
Comments	20
Date	September 12, 2014 10:35 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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