Winning 🤑🤑

godworksout

September 7, 2020

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Title	Winning 🤑🤑
Author	godworksout
Upvotes	444
Comments	36
Date	September 7, 2020 11:57 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/ioj2jq/winning/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MGTOW/winning.212621 https://theredarchive.com/post/212621

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[–]anonymous57803332 points33 points34 points 5 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

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If its in the us they garnish wages for child support ao he'll get the money weither she wants to give it of not

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I suppose you didn't notice the bait and switch you did, or you did but are pretending to it's not there in a fake attempt to be reasonable.

" woman has the final say in terminating or keeping a baby "

Yes, in our shitty society a woman can murder or give away a baby whenever she wants, i.e. not taking responsibility for her actions. A man has no say. So if a baby does actually make it out alive then the woman wanted it, at the time. This comes with obligations as you might imagine, a duty to the well-being of the baby.

A woman refusing this duty after the baby is born is seen as an awful mother (or should be). A man refusing this duty after the baby is born is seen as an awful father, and I doubt that most people in this sub would disagree, with either statement. But you pretend otherwise in order to demonize people of this sub, why? Well, you don't even know what most people here would say on this topic, you pretend you do though.

"But because that person trying to opt out is a woman, this sub sides with the man."

You don't think it's the right thing to do, supporting one's offspring? I'm thinking you would if it were a man. But since it's a woman, you whine, bitch and complain about the injustice and misogyny. About applying such an awful anti-woman policy? No!, it's the people pointing out the double-standard all the time that celebrates when it's finally applied to both sexes that you aim your ire at.

Just wtf is wrong with you. You don't care about the injustice on men's part. Or the kids that are being denied their money because some cunt of a mother spends that money on herself. You seem to only care when it's pointed out by people who, get this shit, say what you think of as mean things about women. WAH!

So what's the point of your post then? It's an attempt to shame manipulable men here into agreeing with you, not convincing them they are wrong, and I suppose assuaging some asinine ideological itch on your part. You don't address anything that's going on, you ignore what's being pointed at, you take umbrage against a fringe group that has no influence in the matter because protect the wimmins, all the while pretending to care.

Hmm, I wonder what type of person you are, under all that pretense.

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Then you really don't know that much about the situation. Child support given to women is usually spend on themselves and not their kids. Not sure of any anecdotes of the reverse but I'm guessing that the men generally spend it on their kids. The double standard you are pointing out is because of the double standard that is happening to men and children in comparison to women which most on this forum notice and state explicitly that it's happening.

So when women are actually held to the same standards (you know the law, which everyone pretends applies to both sexes equally) and child support is forcibly, through the court, taken from the women it is seen as justice because the law actually was upheld for the benefit of the child and their father, as opposed to giving all benefits to women alone.

So for you to point out such "double standards", this post as an example, on the part of men here is to deliberately ignore what they are pointing at and pretending that it doesn't exist. Which is to either not hold any governing principles or values of your own (as they are malleable to whatever is convenient, feels good, or acceptable to most of society) or being deliberately ignorant, thus dishonest and lying about reality, or are evil in wanting good things to not happen and bad things to happen.

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" So you say that child support given to women is usually spent on themselves and not their kids, whereas men who receive child support “you guess” generally spend it on their kids. "

Yes, both for the same reasons. I have never seen anyone give information that records the abuses of women on their part to use the child support (which is intended for the child, hence the name) for their own benefit, nor the reverse situation for men. I have heard many anecdotes concerning such abuses on the part of women but since such a circumstance rarely happens to men receiving child support from women it's even rarer that those men abuse it if at all.

" I’d be interested to read some literature regarding that claim. "

As if that's the only way things can be valid, through a piece of paper approved by an institution. We're talking about gynocentrism here, female focus, which at the moment is at the expense of everyone else, facts be damned. You rarely find any literature about such a phenomenon. In addition, we're in denial about human nature being as such, you hear all the time how society hates women and marginalizes them.

" I don’t see how my initial statement is invalid "

" If this was a woman posting about getting more money from her “baby daddy” she would be getting hammered by this sub. "

My understanding of your statement is that it is a subtle attack of the perceived misogyny of the people of the sub. At face value, it is likely correct that most here would agree with such a statement. However, the implications of the statement is to suggest that some unfair, and sexist/discriminatory, standard is being applied here by the members of this sub.

" What would you imagine the top comment from this sub would be if this was posted with the sexes reversed? "

I imagine it would rail against the inherent discrimination of men of such a system, pointing about the absurd amount required of the man paying to the woman, whom most likely would spend it on herself, rather than the child he is supposedly paying for and the fact that if he reneges on such payment that he is now a wanted criminal and will be put into a debtors prison all while he sits there not earning money being incarcerated yet the debt to his "child" continues to accumulate putting him in more debt he is unable to pay off since he can't earn anything.

And all this perhaps precipitated by a false accusation by the "mother" which mars his character, all accepted without evidence of course, and causes him to lose his job in some manner, or sent to jail, or denied access to his child. That is what I know is going on in the legal world and what is being inflicted upon certain men that never had a chance.

Does this happen to women? Maybe, but it's happening to men all the time. So you might imagine the rage when some nobody that doesn't know shit says something like what you said. The incredulity of one who hears that they are sexist for saying such things like the law ought to apply to women the same as men.

" And I don’t know how pointing that out makes someone potentially an “evil” person that “wants good things to not happen.” "

When one continually ignores or trivializes injustices what conclusion can you come to about such a person? Ignorance? Ideological differences? Different teleological standard? Stupidity? Just evil? Anything else? It wasn't only just about pointing it out but the whole framework they seem to build that convinces them that making such accusation is a decent path to go down.

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