I tend to disagree with many of the people here in this sub that passing shit tests before even having sex with the woman will make her want to fuck you. I’m not talking a shittest here or there, but a clear sign of manipulative/controlling behavior.

I have seen some people here, and I’m guessing the more experienced ones, say that if a woman is trying to control you early on and before sex has happened, that means she doesn’t want to fuck you and she is just trying to see how far she can make you simp for her. I tend to agree with this point of view. Shit-tests and controlling behavior before sex has happened, is a sign that she views you as LVM or beta and the intentions of the woman is turn into an orbiter. It would be an uphill battle and most likely a waste of time to fight her manipulative/controlling behavior and pass shit-tests. I had this happen to me before. She will shittest like no tomorrow. The more you pass shittests, the more shittests come, and it just gets to a point were shittests become pure insults.

Shit tests and controlling behavior before sex most likely is a sign that the woman is trying to turn you into her orbiter. Instead of wasting time on this woman, it’s best to next her. Passing shittests before sex has happened will just make her hate you and ignore you because you are no longer of any benefit, not a lover, and not an orbiter. However, shit-tests after banging the woman a couple of times are expected and passing them is important.

Thoughts?