Hello.
Just to get it out of the way I'm physically attractive. Good fashion sense, symmetric face, pronounced jawline, low bodyfat, but I'm not muscular. My face is a solid 7. Some girls give me compliments on my looks. I'm way above average in comparison to most guys, but can't compete with male models or buff dudes.
I have trouble escalating with some girls on second or third dates. I keep first dates short 30-90 minutes just to screen the girl for red flags and get acquainted with light kino. I try to escalate on second or third date.
On the dates most of the time we have light banter and I'm qualifying the girl. Sometimes I get shit tested, but I pass 95% of them with flying colors.
Most of the time girls are very open to touch and it's relatively easy to escalate and kiss them on second or third date. I use DiCarlo escalation ladder for kino and it has worked fine for me so far.
The issues start when there's just no opening for touch and I can't escalate no matter how I try.
Just to be clear I always try to socially calibrate and I don't force myself on another person when I notice that she's just not feeling it.
Recently I had almost exact same experience with 2 girls. I'm not sure how to proceed and improve. They are both slightly below me in looks department, nerdy jobs, a bit shy, most likely they are not promiscuous. Good families and manners. They both show IOIs, don't flake, respect me and my time.
I just got back from a third date with one of the girls and she initiated light touch herself right away at the start of the date, but I couldn't escalate at all. Restrained behavior, crossed arms 70% of the date etc.
I passed every single one of her subtle shit tests and didn't get in her frame. To be honest I had a good time. At the end of the date she said that she enjoyed our time together and looks forward to seeing me again. But from physical standpoint she behaved almost like a nun. I don't understand. This happened a second date in a row and to be honest it's confusing.
I'm way more physical with my female coworkers and friends (but I don't date chicks from work I know the risks) and they always welcome it and reciprocate.
But with these two girls I can't even call their psysical behavior as platonic. It's like we're almost two complete strangers.
Do you guys have any tips how I can improve? Nexting is not an option, because I want to see were it goes and I want to improve on my mistakes.
Thanks
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