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Why are you guys so obsessed with having sex even after knowing what women are like?

neubs

October 10, 2014
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Title Why are you guys so obsessed with having sex even after knowing what women are like?
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neubs

Upvotes 0
Comments 37
Date October 10, 2014 3:46 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
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Comments

[–]whystoppnow 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Why fap when you can get laid?

[+]neubs[S] -6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Because condoms can break and you don't know where the girl has been. If you just fap you still ejaculate but without the risks.

[–]throwaway-aa2 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How often do condoms break that that's an issue? Even if by some great chance the condom does break, even that doesn't necessarily mean anything. And in the slight chance that it does, you can treat it.

And stop downplaying it as if the only goal is to ejaculate. I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that you can be forced to ejaculate if someone knows what they're doing (finger up your ass).

[–]markasstrick123 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

True. The act of sex is just a tiny part of being around women. They are pretty fun to be around and the social status from being with them opens A LOT of doors socially and sexually.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The problem is sex feels a lot better than fapping. If I didn't feel so empty all those times I did it, I might still be a virgin lol

As to your point about approaches, it's a sociopathic response to an increasingly sociopathic dating world. All these pickup lines don't compare to how a woman can use you like a human wallet and then dump you when she finds a bigger one. It's dehumanizing but men play along because reasons.

[–]neubs[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Maybe you're just not fapping right. Also it's more about just ejaculating anyway. That way I don't even think about women for awhile. There's plenty of other ways in life to feel good anyway.

I'm advocating the idea that it's just not worth the effort to be in the dating world because everything seems so fake.

[–]markasstrick123 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This shouldn't be down voted. This is an amoral post. It isn't wrong or right. If this is the way you feel, then whatever. But I still think you should pursue women at least for friendships, as they open up a lot of doors socially.

[–]Surf_Or_Die 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Because having sex is fun. You can try to eliminate it all you want but billions of years of evolution has made us into sexual beings.

[–]neubs[S] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The fact that we're aware of this means we can do something about it. There are plenty of other ways to have fun in life as well.

[–]throwaway-aa2 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The fact that we're aware of this means we can do something about it.

That doesn't mean we want to. We don't have to drive on the highway, or skydive, or any other reasonably dangerous activity. But their worth it in what they render. Maybe not for you, but sex for me is worth the dangers that it poses.

[–]whystoppnow 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I had a friend that argued this same shit. Basically he never had luck with women so he despises them and gave up on trying to get laid. Problem is he doesn't use the extra time and energy to challenge himself in other ways. He has a shitty girlfriend of 4 years that hasn't fucked him in 3 years because she is Sheldon-level autistic. He hates her but he's determined that "a nut's a nut" so he jacks it.

That's no way to live. I don't have the best luck with girls either but I'd rather have actual sex than pretend sex just like I'm sure you would rather eat actual food than live off of protein paste and supplements. Food is food right?

[–]neubs[S] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

First of all I'm not going to get an STD or impregnate someone by eating a steak. Sticking yourself in a girl is like signing a legal contract.

This has nothing to do with despising women. I get along with them just fine. However I'm now aware of what they are like and the dangers involved.

[–]kanaduhisfruityeh -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why would he hate women but maintain a sexless relationship with a gf he hates? He could just stay single and jack off.

[–]whystoppnow 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Total complacency. That plus he has a since of superiority about his intelligence. His girlfriend is a chemistry major and thinks she's the smartest woman in the world so they make fun of feminine women "because they're dumb." His parents are rich and there is really no reason for him to DO anything. He's a computer science major and PC gamer.

[–]tits_out_forTheBoys 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sex isn't meaningless. It serves a purpose. I get to ejaculate after fucking a real-life woman.

Your problem is that you attach sex's meaning to the girl's personality. When you have sex you fuck a vagina. You do not fuck the girl's personality. That's a blue-pill buffer.

Read the fucking side bar, learn something substantial before you vomit out this bullshit on TRP.

[–]1R_E_D_1 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Shut up. Sidebar. Don't comment again until you've read through the materials. Or, better yet, go away. This is not the place for you.

[+]neubs[S] -6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Not wanting sex is a perfectly reasonable response to red pill

[–]1R_E_D_1 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Your reasons why are fucked up. That's your problem. Read, asshole. Or, again, go away.

[–]GeneralCal1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Dude, the hunt is at last half the fun. If it was easy then everyone would do it.

[–]neubs[S] -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

My problem with this is that they are humans and you're treating them like they are something to be consumed. Nobody really considers what kind of emotional damage is being done and you seem to be amused when "a slut hits the wall" and is now worthless.

It's the combined effort of all of us that makes these girls into sluts after all. You've recognized a problem and are just throwing more fuel on the fire.

[–]Misteralcala 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Our actions, combined or individual, have NO influence on whether or not a woman becomes a slut. When she gets the craving for cock and tells herself she's entitled to some, wild motherfucking horses couldn't drag her away from some dick. She's going to fuck, and why not? If it's going to be some random guy, why not stand in line?

You're taking responsibility and accountability away from women by saying it's our fault they are sluts. They are fully functional adults who can make their own life choices - just like everybody else.

[–]Truzk 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

Are you implying we should all just turn gay? Simply because women are genuninely shitty people? I have refrained from commenting in a while (because of all the srs brigaders) and the random banning but this was a pretty stupid post.

[–]Surf_Or_Die 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Faggots have more meaningless sex than straight people

[–]neubs[S] -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Not at all. I'm just saying that you should be masturbating instead of going out and manipulating girls into sex.

[–]throwaway-aa2 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You toss around the word "manipulated" as if we break out a pendulum and hypnotize girls. Outside of rape, women have sex with men of their own free will. If our strategy is your "litmus" for manipulation, then you could easily say woman's pushup bra, or her suffocating jeans or her slathering makeup on her face is manipulating men into sex / commitment. But of course you don't look at the opposite side of the aisle.

[–]markasstrick123 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's reasonable manipulation. And in return, I do the same. Tanning, working out, wearing lifts, and game. Women do like it because it makes me a 'beta in disguise,' but I don't care. It makes my life a hell of a lot easier.

[–]markasstrick123 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They manipulate themselves. If they are going to be naïve (like they always will be) then I will take advantage of them until they decide to smarten up.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds to me like justification for not having to put yourself out there and pursue women. If you really believe that fapping is better than having sex I feel bad for you son, you got 99 problems and your approach towards women constitutes at least half of them.

[–]kanaduhisfruityeh 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Women choose which types of men they give access to their happy-holes. There are lots of genuinely nice guys who just want to love women, and all of that corny Disney stuff. But women don't like those men are prefer fun a-holes. So they get fun a-holes. That's their choice. They my hamster by saying that nice guys really aren't nice, they're only after sex, etc., but the women really just prefer fun a-holes. So that's what they get. Other men see what's going on and they adopt the strategies that work.

The point is women choose what they want to have sex with, so they get the men that they deserve.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Many men do exactly what you're talking about....they see that women are a lost cause and choose to stay single, fap to porn, and play video games or whatever they are into. It's called Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW) and it scares the crap out of a lot of women who are used to having men fall all over them.

Personally I think it's kind of a cop out. MGTOW might be helpful on the short term, but a better long term strategy is to improve yourself, be more manly and attractive, and don't get blinded by women's bullshit.

[–]markasstrick123 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

MGTOW should be a permanent status among men under 25. Maybe a fling here or there but this is a time of putting in work. I have so much I want to accomplish to be higher value once I'm at the end of puberty. These next 4 years are nothing but a grind of intense workouts and study sessions. Stronger, smarter, stronger, smarter... repeat, repeat, repeat.

[–]throwaway-aa2 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Because despite all the bullshit we have to go through, women can be quite enjoyable, especially one who knows how to fuck and shut her mouth. If you have the right amount of SMV and hold the correct frame and you have experience, you can achieve incredible results with women... you don't have to deal with as much bullshit when you have 5 plates and your SMV is skyrocketing... less shit tests, less bullshit. The struggle here has more to do with people going through the ranks... but be aware that towards the top, some of these men are living the good life.

Masturbation to porn is a facade. Those are not your experiences, you're enjoying someone's else's FAKE experience. The smell, the look (women are much prettier than men), the instinctual primal urges, the fact that sex FEELS better than masturbation... see the thing is most people don't realize a big factor of sex is psychological. I figured this out BEFORE I read the Sex God Method, and I wasn't that surprised that they echoed this thought.

Have you ever fucked a woman to convulsion, and have her naked body passed out on top of you? Have you ever fucked a girl and passionately made out while you came? Masturbating alone... and being on top of a woman, her breasts pressed into yours, her staring at you, with both of your tongues in each others mouths while your dick is inside her vagina (which feels 100 times better than a hand) is not even in the same LEAGE! Have you ever had a woman ride you? There are SOOOO many experiences you can't even imagine how good they are until you have them. Sex on a whole is so fulfilling, I feel like good sex is the pinnacle of masculinity, not ONLY that but I feel like the more sex you have, the better you understand what it IS to be masculine.

When I started having sex (pre-TRP), I realized that some people have Egalitarian sex. No one leads, no one follows. Oral, position switches, cum, done. But with experimentation, I figured out that the girl can't or doesn't want to be the leader, she wants ME to initiate. I'm stronger than her, so she wants ME to fuck HER, she is the willing bitch in this scenario (she doesn't have to be, I could treat her equally but she WANTS THIS). She wants to be made to feel weak & objectified, it makes her FEEL sexy & desirable & like a woman. I figured out this shit BEFORE TRP because of sex.

See, I've masturbated plenty in my life. I still do if I can't get sex. But masturbation isn't and will never be a replacement for actual sex. Masturbation is basically getting off to a computer screen imitation of the real thing, IMAGINE the amount of pleasure you get from the actual real thing!

Also I'd argue that a lot of your approaches here are downright sociopathic. You're aware of how fragile and fickle a woman's emotions can be and yet you try to exploit them. I think this is a bit sadistic.

It's as if you've read no material and yet expect a discourse, of course. Women exploit men on a grand scale. What you have to understand is, where is the guy who has failed in your equation? I'm a failure as far as success with women go (at least like 3 years ago before my transformation). I played by the rules, and it got me nowhere (but of course you don't give a shit about that). Women want the alpha male, and that is what necessitates our strategy, for many reasons.

[–]markasstrick123 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What's your view on short guys? Women want the alpha, and a huge part of that is height. I'm at a severe disadvantage, I think. Being the same height as a woman doesn't spark a primal submissive behavior in them.

[–]throwaway-aa2 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Being short is definiyely unfortunate. Most short guys really have to make up for it with other traits (personality & buff). I've found that there are tons of short girls who will accept a short guy so it's not all bad. It just means you have to work harder. Plenty of short guys do better than tall guys though.

[–]HalfAsianBob1 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Opie is right. Eventually it's just not worth it. Getting laid is as much about female approval as it is getting your nut. I don't understand guys who virgin shame or who put down men who don't want to get laid. Some people really just don't care.

[–]whystoppnow 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No one is shaming the guy. Truth is that masturbating is a cop out. You don't learn anything from jacking it accept how to finish faster. From pursuing women you gain priceless and unique experiences that build confidence in other areas of your life. The OP assumes that the pursuit is just a means to an end, an end that can be achieved at home in front of a laptop. But the pursuit in itself is part of building a better self. Think process orientation.

[–]MOldMuckyTerrahawk[M] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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