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Beta is the only male who goes to a domestic violence support group because his wife punched him in the face in front of the kids, he got laughed at

Entershikari

May 19, 2015
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Title Beta is the only male who goes to a domestic violence support group because his wife punched him in the face in front of the kids, he got laughed at
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Entershikari

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Date May 19, 2015 3:40 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
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Comments

[–]R3v4mp3d137 points138 points139 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Did anyone read up the FULL story? He has muscular dystrophy and spends most of his day in the wheelchair. (click the "check out the comments our team has singled out" link)

This isn't the story of an extreme mangina; this is the story of someone struck by fate and those in higher power (his woman) abusing it.

[–]RPthrowaway12334 points35 points36 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Jesus Christ. So he has a terrible, incurable disease in addition to being a victim of domestic violence and he gets fucking laughed at? Women's greatest strength is their victimhood it seems - a man who is a victim isn't pitied or helped, he is reviled.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil47 points48 points49 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women will abuse any and all power given to them. There is a teacher at the school my girlfriend works at who writes passive aggressive notes about her students in the attendance sheet.

[–]Sir_Shitlord_focker10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Me, and thanks for pointing it out.

[–]pahispua1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Can you link the full story? Maybe it's because I'm on my phone but there's no more info in OP's link.

[–]R3v4mp3d0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I read it on my PC; on your phone select the "Request desktop version" from your browser's dropdown menu and make sure that the link has no "m." at the beginning (mobile version indice).

[–]pahispua0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for your reply, I always view reddit in PC layout but I figured out the story was in the comments of the link (that was thus deleted)

[–]yaardi45 points46 points47 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Society doesn't give a fuck about the men and their feelings.

You got beaten up? Too bad. You got hit by a woman? Pathetic. You are depressed? Just man up. You lost your job? Worthless sack of shit.

[–]1oldredder18 points19 points20 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Even if you're in a wheelchair. Or risked your life to serve your country. Or both.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Do you want that to change? You go beaten up? Aww poor you. Come here and let me give you a hug. You got hit by a woman? Aww poor you. Come here and let me give you a hug while you cry in my arms. You are depressed? Aww poor you. Let me give you some attention while you cry like a girl. You lost your job? This is a big deal and recession can do that to you without you doing anything wrong. But you should still stop wanting society to treat you like bitch. You are a man. Society expects you to live like one. And it is precisely why you do better than women in general. You have the drive, you have the ability, you dont need some alimony payments or affirmative action to save your ass. You are expected to manage largely because you can manage.

PS - Referring to able bodied men in general. Not handicapped men that are in fact equivalent to women and should have the same privileges.

[–]1aguy013 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Society expects you to live like one.

That's the problem. Society picks and chooses when it wants men to be men and when it wants them to be bitches. It's always act like a woman, until something negatively affects a woman, and then you have to act like a man.

If you were allowed to act like a man you would just smack the shit out of the bitch after she punched you, then dump her.

[–]sunwukong15572 points73 points74 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Yeah he got laughed at. And look at the comments here.

You even felt the need to call him a beta. Even if he is one.

Fact is nobody gives a flying fuck about men. It's up to him to help himself. And all the people here looking down on him in this thread just make me sad. As right as you all are, its a sad thing to see how unconditional our disdain for our own gender is when they are having difficulties living in this broken culture we found ourselves in.

Just another reminder to not be a fuck up and take care of myself.

[–]Gayburn_Wright29 points30 points31 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, seeing some of the insults thrown around towards him in this thread is pretty disappointing. What can he do? According to himself he has muscular dystrophy... So really there's absolutely nothing he could do. Even if he didn't care about domestic abuse charges, the guy probably can hardly move.

Y'all really need to like. Tone down the self-aggrandizing "alpha" behavior and see the full situation before demoralizing someone.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It really isn't fair. What CAN he do? He can't touch her or he's thrown in prison. But if a woman beats up or even kills a man who did the SAME thing here, she would be let off for murder or assault because of "battered women syndrome" aka legalized murder but only for women!

[–]sunwukong15510 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

He can minimalize his losses. That is all he can do. And it IS sad. So many "Alpha males" that are detached from reality in this thread. This poor brother has a shit life ahead of him no matter what path he takes and God help him.

Hopefully he gets into Buddhist philosophy because he will need it to find any joy and peace in his new existence that has no material wealth nor affection of the flesh. The man is disabled and enslaved to a woman.

Yet all the "Alpha males" here want to talk trash on the "Beta".

[–]mister_barfly7520 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

all the "Alpha males" here want to talk trash on the "Beta"

I suspect that a lot, if not the majority, on guys here are reformed Betas or former blue pill guys. I know I am. The reason why guys here rag on the guys in these kind of posts? They remind us of who and what we used to be and it disgusts us. Simple fact is, you look at this chump and go "blah blah blah, if I was him, I would yadda yadda yadda" and come up with a magical fix that would solve his life over night if only he knew the truth, but fact is this guy is where we used to be and worked hard to stop being.

The guy went to a domestic abuse support group. Most guys suffering that won't seek help, they'll hide it because admitting to getting abused by their spouse implies an inherent lack of masculinity. This guy got to a point where he was actively seeking help and gets mocked for it, perpetuating the reasoning for all the guys who won't reach out for assistance. That's fucked.

[–]tn1894710 points11 points12 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I suspect that a lot, if not the >majority, on guys here are reformed >Betas or former blue pill guys.

I suspect a lot of them aren't “reformed” or “former” anything, but rather they are living vicariously through the imagined exploits of their RP alpha personae.

[–]BlackHeart890 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

From my understanding, he's handicapped. So its understandable his situation. But other than that, I have very little pity for anyone who has the option of leaving an abusive relationship, but chooses not to because they're "in-love". Man or woman.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheRedPilsner24 points25 points26 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Despite women claiming that they want men to be open with their feelings and in touch with their "feminine side", this incident illustrates a very simple fact that TRPers learn very early on: women have nothing but contempt for a weak man.

The first time his girlfriend hit him, the guy should have dumped her ass and gone no contact. He should not have gone crying to a support group about it.

[–]ChadThundercockII6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He is disabled. This should give you an idea about the lack of abundance mentality. He might be thinking that he is blessed for having a woman. She is a dick and they are too for laughing at him.

[–]Just_the_tip998 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Whomever laughed in that DV meeting. Deserves the violence they have inflicted upon them. They are obviously cunts and have it coming.

[–]TheJLNC17 points18 points19 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Pretty sure I read in the comments the dude had cerebral palsy. They were laughing at a guy who physically couldn't defend himself.

EDIT: He has muscular dystrophy, not sure how I read it and then immediately got it wrong.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sad times, indeed. Btw, this condition (CP) can happen to any of us. For the grace of god, etc.

[–]yummyluckycharms18 points19 points20 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The main reason why he went a support group, or for anyone to go to a support group, is because he needs to know he isnt alone. Domestic assault victims, substance abuse users, etc - all have support groups because not being alone is healthy

Secondly, do people even know what the term beta means? Its somebody who is weak, afraid of change, and who is resigned to their fate and does nothing to change it. Does this sound like someone who takes the brave step of going to a group and trying to get emotionally stable? WTF.

If anything, the people mocking him in this thread seem to be the ones that are pretty weak.

[–]1oldredder-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is most certainly not what beta males are.

A beta male follows an alpha male leader and frequently also supplicates to the whims of women. Even without that aspect serving women, following an alpha is still beta. Nothing else.

Those super-brutal mass-murdering soldiers of armies famous in history? 99% BETA. They rape, murder & pillage like monsters - every single one of them a beta - one alpha per platoon or larger in charge.

That's how beta actually works. Betas are the super-brutal incredibly strong conquering forces. Alpha is their commander / king.

[–]sunwukong155-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No they are not weak. I am not joking when I say they are most likely physically fit, finacially successful and well off in most areas. They are the guys fucking different hot women regularly. The goal of this sub reddits ideaology. But they have found the epix of what /r/theredpill glorifies and turned around and mocked and bashed others.

They have power. Plain and simple. And they lack compassion now. If you want to be the best that you can be, retain your compassion and humility, because if you build a house on shaky foundation, you will some day crumble.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I woulda totally sat in that support group and laughed at every single time a woman cried there.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, if a female hit me I would defend myself the exact same way as if a male hit me...

It is equality, after all.

It makes me sick how some guys are like "I'll kick a man's ass if he hits a girl, even if he's defending himself". I always call them out on it and tell them to hit me and see what happens... obviously these fucking white-knights are pussies and they just want to accumulate imaginary chivalry points in the hopes of getting laid.

The fact that this abused male got laughed at is pretty fucking telling. If I were him, I'd be way angrier than I would be sad. At least, I hope I would. Males are (and always have been) disposable in terms of war, hunting, and protecting. Fuck white-privilege, bitches need to check their pussy-privilege.

[–]1oldredder12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

without solid evidence showing she's the aggressor the cops will arrive with instructions to beat the man nearly to death.

[–]ChadThundercockII0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You know, you don't have to beat her up at that same moment. A beating in a dark alley while she is coming from work is fine too.

[–]dicklord_airplane2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i understand how you feel, but it's still a bad idea to hit women back, especially if you're dating or she's an ex. even if you were only defending yourself after a woman attacked you, you're very likely to get a very expensive, time consuming, soul-crushing domestic violence charge. the justice system doesn't care about justice. the police, the DA, state prosecutors, and judges generally want to maximize arrests and convictions because it's good for their careers, and men in relationships with violent women are golden cash cows. they get stuck in a revolving door to the courthouse.

I advise that people do everything they can to minimize their risk of being prosecuted, and that entails not hitting women for any reason. removing yourself from the situation and calling the cops first is a much wiser move. you do not want to risk ending up with a record as a wife beater, because it may follow you to the grave. every time you get pulled over for speeding, the police will look you up and see that you have a record of beating women. how do you think they will treat you after that? the risks of hitting a woman back are far too great. don't be stupid. that's your pride fuckin with you.

[–]FleshPanda0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with you. This is not a popular perspective.

[–]BlackHeart890 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, if a female hit me I would defend myself the exact same way as if a male hit me...

I've been hit by women before. Damn letting them attack me relentlessly. A good punch to the nose or the eye will hurt like hell from a woman if she's able to throw her weight into it.

[–]Tarnsman4Life2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Body shots, no evidence, less chance of going to jail when the chick calls the cops with a made up story.

[–]BlackHeart890 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Woman. I said stay back. Stay back! Ah shit! That hurt! Stop!"

"SHORYUKEN!!!"... to the gut.

[–]Sir_Shitlord_focker5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

He's not beta he's crippled by a genetic disease

[–]nogtobaggan0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not only that, but he's getting laid. How many of the 'alphas' here would be able to reproduce and date successfully if they were in a wheelchair?

Alpha as fuck.

[–]PlanB_pedofile2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's plenty of fish in the sea. Unfortunately this man caught himself a cunt.

[–]Entershikari8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This should be eye opening, there’s nothing but disgust for beta in this world and even the women who get beaten by their husband are laughing at a beta who get beaten by his girlfriend in front of his childrens.

Or is he just the beta orbiter cuckholding those kids?

It makes me wonder what’s the limit of disrespect?

Domestic abuse is so wrong; what’s the percentage of responsibility of the victim tough ?

[–]DJ_RP4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This seems more like a /r/MensRights issue than a RedPill one

[–]sunwukong15513 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's within the realm of both.

[–]1oldredder1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Everything that is mensrights or mgtow is automatically fully red pill. mensrights simply has 1 deviation in thinking they can change the system from the inside to save us men. They are wrong but it's a math problem. Earlier on they'd be right but today critical mass is instead going to collapse civilization where feminism is.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So domestic violence support groups have been coopted to serve the feminine agenda? Who could have predicted.

On a related note, more than 85% of Amber Alerts are actually cases of "Parental Kidnapping" where the father overstays "His" time with the kids. Less than .1% of Amber Alerts are cases of parental kidnapping where the MOTHER overstays her time with the kids.

I can see a room full of females laughing at a male domestic violence victim.

[–]SleepNowMyThrowaway1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (12 children) | Copy Link

Unsure what purpose a "support" group would serve for him? Group hug? Pamphlets? Krav Maga instruction?

Even if he wasn't laughed out of the room, what value did he possibly expect from such an experience?

[–]sunwukong1559 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you actually want an answer.. he should be given advice on how to GET OUT of the relationship. Same advice they would give a woman who was punched in front of her kids.

But the path to getting out is different for a man. For a man he needs to lawyer up, hit the gym, and get ready to take a loss. A female-dominated support group can't give him that info, they only know how to tell a woman how to get out of an abusive relationship.

[–]Dkmistry234 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

He has muscular dystrophy and he was looking for support in a position where he isn't able to defend himself. Bet you feel like an asshole now, huh?

[–]SleepNowMyThrowaway3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Not at all.

He could have lupus, leprosy, and a case of the crabs and none of that would supersede his main problem; he's a man in a a fascist, feminist state who doesn't get what this system is all about.

Hopefully he'll learn, and quickly.

[–]1oldredder-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Learn? You dumb fuck, the only way out for him is suicide.

[–]Solomonceed1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Nah man, /u/SleepNowMyThrowaway is right. You're misunderstanding him.

We're not saying that the guy is in the wrong here or that he can learn not to have a serious illness. It's that women in this society do not care about guys like him, despite his disease not being his fault. It has been deemed acceptable for women to hit men, regardless of whether the man has actually done wrong or has the slightest chance of defending himself. Men, including those with serious conditions, need to realize this: Ultimately, a man can only rely on himself, no matter how shitty the hand he was dealt at birth, is.

[–]1oldredder0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

he's already too weak to be able to do that - hence my understanding: suicide is the way out. He will never in his life, by his disability, be able to rely on himself for physical defense.

[–]SleepNowMyThrowaway0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is fight club, harsh trooths and all that; I think you're looking for r/Oprah.

[–]1oldredder0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You dumb fuck: harsh truth is what I gave, not what anyone else did.

The man's in a wheelchair. He's option is suicide. Harshest most absolute truth. He can't get ripped, can't lift, can't defend himself from physical attack. He's done.

[–]zoganshero 2 points2 points2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

what value did he possibly expect from such an experience?

He expected support because he is plugged in. It's hard even for me to wrap my head around, but these things actually happen.

[–]sunwukong1554 points5 points6 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

He is disabled and physically abused by a woman. Go fuck yourself. He may be plugged in but he isn't some common "beta bux"

You are as dettached from reality as the "Betas" you bitch about if you can't find sympathy for this man. Or maybe you are trying to emulate the "Dark Triad" persona to the extreme.

Seriously people. Read the fucking info before you throw your hate towards this man. I don't give a fuck if you take your anger out on women but fucking have some common sense. You can say that we are in a state of decline, you can say that fighting back against this shit is useless, you can say all that, but the LEAST you could do is not join in with the feminists and bash and hate on these people. Fucking degenerates.

[–]moose_war2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

remember, there is NO reason to hit a woman

[–]1oldredder3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

oh, do tell.

[–]moose_war-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

calm down retards it was sarcastic, I was referring mostly to the Bill Burr skit

[–]fortifiedoranges0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't know what it is about reddit but nobody gets sarcasm on this site

[–]moose_war0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's hard to get it over text, but I figured they'd know someone posting in this sub would not be stating such a silly opinion seriously.

Sadly, many people in the real world DO hold that view.

[–]rolling_n_stoned0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is what happens when a man spills his purse in front of other women.

They realize he is a woman

[–]EnzoBlankz0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

more proof women don't give a shit about men's feelings

[–]akolyteofthecentury0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Imagine he comes home one day only to be beaten within an inch of his life. He manages to call the cops, but she cries crocodile tears about how he is emotionally abusive or some bull. Then, the cops beat that inch out of him too.

The next day: the cops are the bad guys for beating a man in a wheelchair to death and go to jail for all eternity.

Her? Oh, she's just a little wittle victim.

[–]elili0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Are we really calling a disabled man beta?

[–]DaphneDK-3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

He doesn't need a domestic support group. He needs to overpower his wife when she attacks him. Possible to put on some muscle to handle the situation. It is true that it is a little amusing because the odds are so heavily stacked in his favour and yet he can't respond in a proper way. It's like a YouTube video I remember of a chicken chasing a lion around.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What he needs is a gun and to put a few bullets in her kneecaps to level the playing field.

Or you know for law enforcement to do their fucking job and arrest the aggressor rather than just assuming the man is the one at fault.

[–]DaphneDK-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Any average man can fairly easily overpower 99% of women, so either he's a way out statistical outlier, or he's whatever the PC word is for someone who is able to but without the courage to protect himself and his children.

I guess I can't really relate to the US culture of involving the police in all kinds of trivial matters. Did he even call the police? Doesn't the police have more pressing matters to attend to than a small household disturbance?

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Read the comments... the guy has some sort of physical disability (some say muscular dystrophy or cerebral palsy or something) and is confined to a wheelchair. Hence my comment about shooting out her kneecaps.

[+][deleted] -11 points-10 points-9 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

He deserves everything that has happened and will happen, because he felt the need to publically humiliate himself, expecting sympathy.

[–]Solomonceed1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Where do you get the idea from that pain and humiliation will change his way of looking at life?

He's a disabled man who just got violently attacked. Either he will learn what kind of a sick society this is or not. Unfortunately, probably not. But does he deserve violence? I don't think so.

[–]1oldredder-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You just humiliated yourself - what do you deserve?

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