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Feminism Is Causing The Depression Epidemic - TRP mention

onehonesttruth
September 15, 2014
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Title Feminism Is Causing The Depression Epidemic - TRP mention
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onehonesttruth
Upvotes 73
Comments 43
Date September 15, 2014 1:26 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
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Comments

[–]TheIronViking 48 points49 points50 points 11 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

It's sad that these women spend all their time and energy trying to emulate the "male" experience but are truly clueless to how it actually is. They seem to think we all get handed a cigar, scotch and a Privilege Club membership card at birth. The reality is that for most men life is dull and full of drudgery. When you couple that with an expectation to self-sacrifice and support a group of people who are increasingly being told to shun responsibility and accountability, it's a wonder why anyone wants to be the "traditional man."

[–]Idle_Redditing 53 points54 points55 points 11 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Remember. The women are only looking at a few guys at the top.

They look at the wealthy men playing golf, eating steaks and having fun at the country club. They don't even notice the groundskeepers, caddies, and kitchen staff working there.

[–][deleted] 39 points40 points41 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

God, so true. I had a girl tell me that it was just as easy for a man to get laid as a woman.

In reality if you go out into a public space you will see tons of unwanted, invisible men who wander through life like automatons. It's like they're background NPCs in a video game or extras in a tv/film.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Open your eyes a little wider, and you might see all of the unattractive women that are in the same boat.

In my most desperate days I was having sex with women that would often tell me it had been over 6 months since they last had sex. They were 5's at best. Well, I think I did this with two women... maybe 3.

[–]Idle_Redditing 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Maybe I should try going for them if I'm feeling lazy, like today.

From your perspective how would you rate the forced-smile woman in the thumbnail from 1-10?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hard to tell, but I would guess in person she's probably a 7 or 8.

[–]Idle_Redditing 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Based on that standard a 4-5 might be tolerable.

[–]HalfAsianBob 8 points8 points8 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Unless he's hot and looks like Khal Drogo. Then all's fair.

[–]Prattler26 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You have to work really hard to look like Khal Drogo.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah but run it through the solipsism hamster lense of an attractive female. She was born with her aasets so life was always on easy mode. Therefore all guys that are attractive have the same perks OBVIOUSLY.

[–]Sirinon 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Great line I heard from a country girl who had just moved to the city was "according to my new GF's as long as a guy has ninja-turtle abs then he is a winner."

within 3 months she had become one of them, lol.

[–]joncho 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And they will stop looking if they fall into bad times.

[–]RedPill115 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They look at the wealthy men playing golf, eating steaks and having fun at the country club. They don't even notice the groundskeepers, caddies, and kitchen staff working there.

Actually, you also miss the opposite end of the spectrum.

They don't notice the homeless men who took the same risks but simply didn't get lucky, or weren't quite as smart, and lost everything. Bill Gates was both smart and got lucky with his timing. The Bill Gates 5 years after him found the market already closed and didn't make it. The woman in a similar situation never took the risk, and when her bad decisions cost her she came back to her family crying and they gave her money until she could get back on her feet. Or her ex-boyfriend.

Women have no idea how much work it took to get to the top. They marry a CEO, then complain that he's endlessly at work. Well no kidding...to be at the top you make a huge number of sacrifices - even for the successful. Take Donald Sterling, before the whole racism thing - would his life make you happy? Tons of money, but look at a picture of his ex-wife. Look at a picture of his "mistress" - whatever was going on there that he was fine with her nailing other dudes. He didn't make it to the top and is now banging high quality women.

Women don't see the low status men. But they don't see the actual, real-consequence risks that men have to take in order to be successful. They just assume that men have an easy fall-back support network like women do. Some of the men who's risk taking didn't pay off aren't even working as the garbage man - they're in the ground, dead, when they were shot/died of starvation/exposure on the street.

[–]Idle_Redditing 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good point.

You mention a business failing for reasons beyond their control all they understand is "loser". I never thought to mention that.

I personally wish I came up with the idea for dropbox back when the window for being a rich motherfucker in cloud storage was still open.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not only that, but they also don't realize that while a few of the men at the top may have got there through privilege.. A lot of them worked there asses off to be there. They earned it.

Those men that earned it didn't whine and complain about how their co-workers make more money, they instead applied themselves and searched for ways to make more money.

[–]TheIronViking 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's an excellent point, and perhaps highlights just how invisible the bottom ~80% truly are. They can't put themselves in the "common" man's shoes because they simply don't acknowledge them. The tired, broken men getting up everyday to pound away at nails, rocks, keyboards, and their own dignity may as well not exist. Especially in the city, where there are so many services available that magically "hide" the workers and deliver the product with limited interaction.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The glass cellar. Amazing only men seem to know who's in there.

[–]Here2lrn 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

What's really sad is they try to force their personal choice on to every other woman as well. Like the article said, if they see a woman who's happy in her traditional gender role, they attack.

[–]TheIronViking 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The article was right on the money about Dutch women too. I know a few and not a single one is beating themselves to death to secure a high powered career. They practice art and hold easier going jobs, spend a lot of time with family and are very pleasant to be around. Feminists go nuts when I mention that they are also fairly well educated, especially compared to the average American. They can't comprehend a studied, intelligent woman willingly choosing to not be a corporate controlled harpy.

[–]2alisonstone 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Women who graduate from Ivy League colleges are also more likely to become stay-at-home mothers than women who graduate from mid-tier universities. The women who have experienced being on top see that it is not as important as family, so they choose family instead. The feminists who lack the ability and drive to reach the highest levels choose to believe that it is great, but they would never actually know because they cannot reach it.

[–]TheIronViking 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There was once girl from high school who went on to an Ivy, got a "real" degree and after a few years got married and now stays home with her daughter. Some people I know (hamplanets) like to poke fun at her for "selling out, leaning on a man, failing at life, squandering her degree, etc.) It's sad because she genuinely looks happy from what I can tell.

Just because you have the brains and ability to do something doesn't always mean it's the right choice for you. It just means it's an option.

[–]chakravanti 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The side shame.

"I don't want to begrduge a woman getting what she wants. If thats really what she wants she should just be sure that she isnt doing it because a man made her."

[–]rcglinsk 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I've always thought of it along these lines:

Why didn't you just ask men about working? "Well, it sucks, a lot." There you go. 5 words saving millions of women from poor decisions. And hell I suspect some women had the sense to ask, but they chose to believe the feminists who insisted those men must be lying.

[–]TheIronViking 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At least for myself, I don't mind working. Heck, I think a lot of men enjoy being productive and having something to dedicate their time to. The problem is this "system" we all live in means the majority don't get to do something they truly want to do.

They seem to think every "big boy" job they force themselves into will somehow lead to fulfilment, but it doesn't. Often, it leads to disappointment.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 26 points27 points28 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

The thread from /r/TheBluePill that he mentions, where they are discussing which antidepressant/SSRIs they're taking, is scary indeed. I've seen conversations like this in real life where an entire group of women is discussing which antidepressants they are taking and how many they had to try before finding one that worked for them.

There can't be that many people who are clinically depressed. I believe that this blog post nailed it:

“I learned that I wasn’t sad because there was something wrong with my brain. I learned that I was sad because my life sucked.”

Initially, I laughed because it was funny to hear my old Grandma use the word ‘sucked’ in a sentence. But after that, I worriedly asked, “Are you saying I shouldn’t seek therapy?”

“No,” she replied, “I’m not saying that at all. What I am saying is that you should be wary of the Doctor who tells you a pill is a fix for your broken mind. The way I see it, you have a lot of reasons to be sad right now. So if that’s what you’re feeling, that seems about right to me.”

Most of us also know that SSRIs are notorious for dampening libido and even eliminating it entirely. This is leading to a nation of dead bedrooms - and that's really something to be depressed about.

[–]cavtroop 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This, a thousand times this. I've been on SSRI's for a year or so now (my second go around). Weaning myself off now, because my doctor just wanted to try ANOTHER SSRI to fix the side effects. Something about 'different side effect profile for each med'

Fuck that. I'm getting off. The withdrawls are terrible right now, but I'll power through, and be better off int he long run.

THIS struck a real cord with me: "What I am saying is that you should be wary of the Doctor who tells you a pill is a fix for your broken mind. The way I see it, you have a lot of reasons to be sad right now. So if that’s what you’re feeling, that seems about right to me.”'

I DO have lots of reasons to be sad right now. And thats NORMAL. Being on pills is NOT.

Doctors just toss pills at people, because its what they think they want. I think its criminally negligent at this point. Im going to start exercising, taking care of myself first, and I'm betting 6 months from now I'll be in a MUCH better place without shitty drugs.

[–]jimpz 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm not against medications but antidepressants won't cure one's divorce rape, joblessness, or whatever shiity situation you're in.

[–]cavtroop 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

against medications but antidepressants won't cure one's divorce rape, joblessness, or whatever shiity situation you're in.

Exactly. I thought they'd help. Exactly the opposite, they've made my life worse. Now I'm dealing with TERRIBLE withdrawal symptoms (google ssri discontinuation syndrome).

Don't go on these unless you absolutely have to. Doctors will toss this shit at you like candy. Be strong, most people don't need it.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good luck in getting off the SSRI, it'll be tough but definitely worth it.

I've read many people's experiences on how hard it is to get off of a SSRI and it is truly scary:

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/1/22/patients-mostly-womenfindtroublegettingoffofantidepressants.html

“People can get started on the drugs for anxiety, obesity, menopause. You see people prescribe the drugs for anything under the sun,” said Dr. Peter Breggin, an expert in psychiatric withdrawal with a private psychiatry practice in Ithaca, N.Y. “I think they’re among the most difficult drugs to come off — harder to come off than alcohol and opiates.”

“My first three months was really bad,” Scott said by phone from her home in Andalusia, Ala. “I had anxiety, heart palpitations, chest pains, panic attacks.”

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[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The US national statistics are not encouraging;

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/12/a-glut-of-antidepressants/

Over the past two decades, the use of antidepressants has skyrocketed. One in 10 Americans now takes an antidepressant medication; among women in their 40s and 50s, the figure is one in four.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Was depressed in college and went to the University doctor. Was on a fast track to getting on prozac but refused. I didn't want to suppress the issue I wanted to face it. Once I started coming out of my dorm room more often and socializing I felt a million times better. I wasn't my depression that was keeping me isolated and lonely, my isolated and lonely life was causing my depression.

Not saying there aren't legit depressed people out there, but if a doctor thought drugs would help me when all I needed was some fucking self worth, how many others are out there that took the easy route?

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You did the right thing.

People would benefit more by trying to fix their lives instead of trying to fix their brain (outside the few people who actually have clinical depression).

Even just getting more exercise helps tremendously:

http://www.bu.edu/today/2010/exercise-the-other-antidepressant/

...numerous clinical trials have shown that people with major depression who embrace routine exercise get better at the same rate as they do with antidepressants.

[–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Fixing your brain" is just treating the symptom, rather than the cause. As was mentioned in the article, depression is your brain's way of telling you that something's wrong with your current reproductive strategy.

Having friends, exercising, and working hard will always fix mental issues much more effectively than pills or doctors.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think a lot of people take anti-depressants as a cop-out. What they actually need is self-discovery and self-actualization. These people need meaning in their lives but my generation (people in their 20s) are set on this idea that "No, I'm fine just the way I am!" Uhh.. No, if you're not happy you're not fine. Go do shit that makes you happy, FIND A PURPOSE IN LIFE. Just because you're having a bad day or a bad stretch through life doesn't mean it's time to start popping pills, it's time to step up to the fucking plate and do your best. I don't mean do your best in some shitty self-help way, I mean to actually DO YOUR FUCKING BEST, ALWAYS PUSH YOUR LIMITS.

If you're going to give up at the first site of struggle or challenge, my guess is you wouldn't have survived very long back in the ancient times.

That being said, I do think that some people DO need medication. They have actual errors in their neurochemistry that are holding them back and by taking medication, they can move forward.

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[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Those are simply not qualities that men look for in women.

Oh, I wouldn't say that strength, confidence, dominance and leadership aren't good qualities for a successful matriarch who is using these traits in a feminine setting, however, the career women try to out-man the men on a male path and then wonder why they aren't perceived as quality women.

[–]whitey_male 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It must be hard to admit how wrong they've been.

If they look back, only to their baby boomer mothers, they'd see women who had it far better. Could work but didn't have to, and financial security from a contented and looked after male.

The last couple of decades have been a cluster fuck and those occupying the left are almost entirely to blame.

So the shrieking and denial lives on, like a drug addiction.

[–]Kaltano1 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Both are to blame, liberals for doubling the working population and conservatives for using that to keep wages low. Conservatives complained about it from a moral standpoint but profiteered off the economic consequences.

[–]WAFC 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

From the outside, it looks like the world of the elites works a lot like pro wrestling. Everyone has a side they fight for publicly, but when the show's over, they all grab a drink together and laugh about the money they're raking in by tricking the rubes.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A very well written article that isn't afraid to lash out against those batshit crazy femi-fascists. I love how Ms Mees just absolutely refuses to look at the womens' happiness index with respect to working part-time/full-time. For fuck's sake.. If a woman DOESN'T want to work full time, is married and would rather provide for her children, then LET HER WITHOUT SHAMING HER.

These manic over-analytical morons can't understand that some people think differently or have different cultural practices. I don't go up to my Muslim friends and tell them "Hey, no you're wrong there's no god." I understand that their religious practices make them happy and a better person to be around.. and I'm happy for them because of that.

Why can't this woman just agree to disagree on lifestyles? She wants to climb the corporate ladder and other women don't. Big fucking deal, if you really want to earn as much as the man (who's not focusing his time on bullshit like this) then focus on YOUR BUSINESS not condemning people who are different from you.

[–]Sirinon 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

3rd wave western feminism is not healthy for anyone.

[–]Nydusurmainus -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Quality bloging from the same guy who gave us, The 100% Guaranteed First Date Bang and The 100% Guaranteed second date Date Bang. Stupidest shit ever, you wanna be a made, you wanna swallow the redpill? Fucking grow up and be responsible for yourself and don't blame feminism for everything.

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