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Zero Date Bangs: Reduce Your Variables, Bang More Girls

LumpyPUA

December 18, 2013
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Title Zero Date Bangs: Reduce Your Variables, Bang More Girls
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LumpyPUA

Upvotes 22
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Date December 18, 2013 8:19 PM UTC
(12 years ago)
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[–]Senior ContributorDemonspawn17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I haven't taken a woman on a date on well over 20 years.

I'm going to the bar to watch hockey/hang out. I'm going to the concert. I'm going to my friends new year's eve party. I'm going to the range. I'm going.... you get the idea.

I'm doing what I'm doing. She's invited to join. If she joins, great. If she doesn't, great. It doesn't matter, because I'd be there doing that even if I never knew she existed.

[–]Villaintine2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd seen an article some time ago that posited this as the new face of dating and was overjoyed. Good on you.

It's how I've set up any get together with women so even if it ends up not clicking with her I still have a good time.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

I don't agree.

"You number close a girl. Run some flirty, occasionally semi-sexual but surface level comfort building text message game on her over the course of 1-3 weeks."

This is just retarded. Everybody that ever texted a girl knows how horribly it usually ends unless you're an absolute pro at it. All of a sudden you're no longer the awesome guy she met, but one of 500 different numbers in her phone. Good luck trying to meet her again after 3 weeks of just texting her. This is a big load of bullshit.

[–]KoreanRedPill5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

It isn't bullshit as long as you can leave a lasting impression. I mean. Don't over game on text. But I typically can't find a day to meet with a girl lesser than 2 weeks in advance and it has always worked for me

Put in work on building attraction first. Don't shoot down this guy's method quite yet.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Lasting impression? Did you forget that women live in the moment? She doesn't remember shit from 2 weeks ago.

[–]KoreanRedPill6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Says who? By no means am i a tall millionaire but speaking from experience & success. They most certainly remember

The difference is between; that 5-6 that smiled & bantered with you last week and holy shit the dream girl you got her number last month, is what will make you remember someone.

I don't know your situation, but 2-3 weeks between meet & date isn't really a success killer in my history. If that's the rules / reality some of you are living in expand your horizons.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't work here with the young ones, if you don't get them in bed within two days of first contacting them, they all flake. You can't leave a lasting impression on them because there is so much attention being thrown at them

[–]KoreanRedPill0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Speaking from experience it most certainly does work. I don't date higher than 26. From my perspective the younger they are the easier it is to leave that lasting impression

Sure that 19 year old is getting hit on every day, but they are more boy crazy than anything. They will remember that Korean guy with the cool hair that approached her boldly at work and made her laugh, frustrated, and feel sexy all in 5 minutes. The more boy crazy they are the more they will talk about the interaction with their friends and re live the scenario, burning you into their memory & separating you from the other guys that got in, got the number, got out. (I'm giving you a specific example of a convo I had in bed with a white girl after sex. I didn't have time to actually meet her at her place until muchhhhh after the initial meet, and she described why she was so eager / frustrated with me not calling).

The point being you have to leave a lasting impression!

A lot of people have the wrong perspective on cold approach / game. It's not about getting the number / commitment to hang out again. It is getting the CONNECTION. Making her FEEL like she wants more of you and YOU deciding if she's worth more of your time. I am getting into too many things now. But again. Don't let your previous beliefs / experiences close you off from the better parts of game.

I mean. How the hell could you spin plates if you only gave yourself a week to meet up with her. Lol

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Because it works different here. I will admit I have no game in text, but there is no fucking way I am going to blow up her phone. In person, face to face I can get the job done, provided I can get them in bed that day or the next. If they want to text, after this weeks events, I will simply ignore them. It goes nowhere no matter what I do.

Online conversations work for me, but texting doesn't, no clue why.

[–]KoreanRedPill0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

My text game was HORRID before I found TRP. The stuff that turned it around for me.

A text conversation is not a CONVERSATION. It's more of a pager.

2/3rds rule. Emote by 2/3rds. Length by 2/3rds. Take 66% longer to text her back than you.

Blackout time. Only text between 5pm-9pm. And sometimes around noon or midnight. Fridays and Saturdays I never reply to anything. (I once had a 19 year old ask if I was batman. Lol)

Logistics only. Maybe ONE joke to ease LMR, but for the most part I am only texting to exchange pleasantries and get the date.

Notice these rules are all based on creating the illusion that you are always busy with work / friends / other girls. And as you spin more plates and get a more involving career all those "rules" I listed will be just the reality you live in.

Hence, real game is no game at all

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

They just stop talking. Have em going good, interested, playful, say goodnight, the next day nothing from them, then never hear from them again. Are they trying to game? Shit test? My game is from before pagers, texts, smart phones, etc. I'm mid 40s and can get them going good face to face, but then they just vanish when I do the 2/3.

No fucking clue what's going on.

[–]KoreanRedPill0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Do you buy them drinks during the night?

Do you make out with then during that meet?

Are you in shape?

Do you make good money?

How often do you get laid a month? How many different women?

[–]vengefully_yours1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I never buy drinks.

Sometimes, but its rather difficult online

I'm in OK shape, lots of muscle but heavy winter clothes do me no favors.

OK money, over $50k

3 different women currently, as often as I want to. Want some new ones, but I'm not desperate.

They just stop talking for no apparent reason.

[–]KoreanRedPill1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Impossible to tell off a small description but I do see undesirable parts.

Online girls have plenty of options and if they are willing to date in a large age range (up to 40) they are likely dating someone new weekly. Meaning; you have to make an even bigger impression, their SMV is skewed crazy high due to the sheer numbers of men pursuing them, and it means literally nothing to cut off a "good guy".

OK shape is not good. In heavy clothes your face shows your body fat. Girls swoon over a chiseled jawline.

So many of your mid-late 20s counterparts (more attractive / athletic) make more money than you and most of your 35-40 competition make more money than you. It should not matter, but in the hypergamous world we live in, it is everything.

Likely stop talking because you aren't a better deal than whoever else they can get / think they can get. But you already know how that works from being on TRP. If you were that; in shape, interesting, funny, sports car driving, baller, that two weeks of no contact would mean absolutely nothing.

[–]vengefully_yours1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Around here, as far as finances I am well above mean, when its cars, few compare. Being winter, there isn't a plus for me with anything that displays my status. Everyone around here who is under 50 works two or three jobs, lives check to check, and comes nowhere near me in muscle. Its skewed perception to some extent, but has to be something others do that is expected here.

I'm not upset about it, since really I have not found one who is worth much effort. No shortage of pussy, but in the interest of continued improvement I want to learn what the fuck it takes to keep their interest. In summer its easy, they can see my vehicles, my muscles are visible, and its obvious I am doing well because I am not at work. My value and status is readily apparent in summer, but winter here is hard mode. Add in its mostly a text based conversation, they get cold feet before the face to face, and its confusing.

I live in a small town of about 30k people, farther north than most people in the US. I come from a state on the western plains with a different culture, and my military experience works against me here as does the culture difference. It took me a few years to learn the sense of humor here, its that different. Being retired mid 30s is usually a bonus, but here its intimidating.

So really its just trying to find what works here.

[–]The_CEO_of_Beta[🍰] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I've fallen into the texting trap before: Texting and texting again and again because I had too much anxiety to actually do something with her.

When I finally did have the courage to ask her out she wasn't interested in me anymore and kept telling me that she's "busy". Every weekend and holiday she was "too busy".

I looked over my message history and found that I messaged her over 200 times in the past 2 weeks. When I told a few of my friends they said, "Yep, you goofed up. It's called 'cupcaking'. You piqued her interest early but now she's bored of you."

[–]enticingasthatmaybe0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Always. Be. Closing.

You can keep a girl on the line for a while with just texts, but you still have to tease sometimes, ignore sometimes and escalate all the times. They expect you to escalate and will lose attraction if you don't at least try.

If you're giving more than they are, back off. You should only return about 2/3 of what she gives.

Talk about sex most of the time.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This, and its amazing how quickly it can unravel with seemingly no rational reason.

I managed to go from getting 3 underwear shots from a solid 9 i number closed within 24 hours, to her hitting my 3 text rule* with absolutely no explanation. Still have no idea what her deal is, may find out on Friday where our paths will unavoidably cross. May fuck her friend to hammer home the point, her friend is so desperate for my attention its unappealing though.

*The 3 text rule is my small way of attempting to stop myself trying too hard. It really ought to be less than 3 because if you hit 3 you've probably already lost the game, but 3 texts, 3 strikes, etc. Basically if i get 3 unanswered communications of any sort with a girl, over any timescale, i delete the number.

Damnit i just lost "The game" too...

[–]TheEyeUrnShaft1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

A lot of you seem to harp on the morning after text. Do you do this with chicks you pick up in bars too? I rarely even bother getting their number, let alone stroking their ego.

[–]_Xi_8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's to cover your ass in the event of a false rape allegation.

[–]TheEyeUrnShaft3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's what the fake name is for

[–]_Xi_3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There is a multitude of things wrong with your attitude about safety measures. But it's clear you think your way is the best. So good luck with playing roulette, mate. Don't write us from prison complaining about how some cunt got you locked up for breaking her feelings.

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