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I present to you.... "Models" by Mark Manson for download.

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November 26, 2013
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Title I present to you.... "Models" by Mark Manson for download.
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Upvotes 15
Comments 18
Date November 26, 2013 5:57 AM UTC
(12 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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[–]SoDark 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

If this book was the first thing anyone who hears of this sub read, people would feel very differently about what TRP is about.

I strongly believe that /r/TheRedPill can be a force for good — not just to improve men's ability to achieve their short-term goals with regards to women (that's what /r/seduction is for) — but to improve heterosexual relationships as a whole, for both men and women, leading to more satisfying experiences in both the short- and long-term, for both parties.

I'll straight-up quote the /r/RedPillWomen sidebar:

...discuss objectively and realistically sexual strategy with the focus on long-term goals that bring long-term happiness. Our culture has told men and women over and over how to find happiness, and we're learning the hard way that maybe what we were told isn't working.

I'm not a masculist or a feminist, I'm a humanist. I believe that developing a deeper understanding of ourselves and each other — our motivations, our interrelated societal dynamics — we can build more satisfying lives for ourselves and help others to do so, too.

This book, with its emphasis on honesty and personal integrity, is absolutely in line with that belief. Alas, I have but one upvote to give.

[–]ThumoticJonFrost25 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Models is one of the best books on game and dating that I've ever read, and it's the first one I recommend to blue pill friends and family.

However, it's wrong to suggest that Mark Manson is a model for what the Red Pill should be all about, that we should aspire to be more like him, and that we can solve our 'image problem' by being more like him.

Again, I am a huge fan of his work, but he is diet Red Pill, Red Pill-lite, all the taste with only one-third the politically incorrect truths. He is my favourite author in the subset of TRP which is seduction and relationship advice, but he plugs his ears and shuts his eyes to the unpleasant truths beyond that.

I don't think he's dishonest. My sense is that he's just a positive guy who doesn't want to invite the negativity of men's issues, feminism, and the decay of western civilization into his world view. Hell that kind of mentality is pickup/NLP 101.

Bottom line: I hope the mods take this post down and institute a rule against posting pirated stuff. If they don't, read the book, and pay for it if you feel grateful when you're done (you will). But, note that Mark Manson is a favourite among the manginas at r/seduction, and adjust your hero-worship accordingly.

[–]Modredpillschool 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree with your view on Mark Manson, and with the pirated material. The post has been removed.

[–]SoDark 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think of Manson as a "TRP messiah," but rather a good writer with view that focuses on personal integrity, which is where I think all true growth comes from.

Regarding the "darker issues" of sociological decay that Manson would rather eschew, well, we have to solve those problems with women, as partners in building a healthier interaction model. If that makes me Diet Red Pill, Ill wear the label.

But that said, I had no idea Models was copyrighted, so then, yeah, good to take it down.

[–]Endorsed Contributor30303030303030 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm reading this book for over 2 months and I'm on page 15. I just lost interest in learning pick up. What I know feels like it's enough to work with. It's interesting how you get obsessed with women when you are not fucking them, and how they become irrelevant once you have as much sex as you need.

[–]ThumoticJonFrost25 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Downvoted. This is a book worth paying for.

[–]snipsnipburn 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If the book has that much value, fucking pay for it. The Red Pill is about finding value in yourself - and you can't put value on yourself if you're constantly devaluing other people's work.

[–]projectself 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

the material in that book will only have the value you place on it.

Think of the things in your life you have owned, what did you prize more, when you worked for something or when it was given to you. Downloaded a pirated pdf will do nothing but ensure you will not take the contents of the book seriously. It's just some ebook you grifted.. buy the book. read it. consider it an investment in yourself. If you can not mentally make yourself worth the few dollars to get it legit, then it sure wont help you anyway.

[–]Modredpillschool[M] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Please do not post illegal access to copyrighted material.

[–]benczi 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

While it's awesome that you present us this book (I've been looking for it on p1rateb@y), you really should know better than posting copyrighted material so openly.

On a similar note, what I have found quite eye opening is David DeAngelo's Man Transformation and it's successor becoming Mr. Right. http://www.doubleyourdating.com/catalog/

[–]Fatvod 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I dont agree with this. This book is worth the money and should be paid for.

[–]wolololololololo 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Funnily enough, 'Models' is often called a feminist approach to seduction. It's almost like seduction isn't actually some women hating trickery conspiracy...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Life-changing book. No bullshit, no stupid canned material and face-palm inducing techniques.

[–]j_arbuckle2012 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Dude this is copyrighted. Models is excellent, if a little lacking in the more practical aspects.

Seriously though, take this down. This is copyrighted material that's good enough to pay for. It's $15 off Manson's website, it's not like he's charging $500 for it. Just go out and fucking buy it. Downvoted and reported.

[–]Fatvod 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

10 bucks for the amazon kindle edition!

[–]PrismaticFire1 points 12 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Wow, thank you. This is a pretty straightforward, no bullshit book that pretty much encapsulates what I've been reading about the red pill over the last couple of weeks. It gets right into the sex as well, which is pretty much the only part I'm still having a bit of anxiety about, and it has a step-by-step guide which is great for newcomers and those of us who like clear and practical guidance. Best part is that its honest and lacking the anger towards women that Reddit seems to overly associate with this sub.

[–]pounds_not_dollars 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with you. I don't want to "win" if it means being a jerk to women. The fact that it is honesty we can use as a tool is too good to be true in that not only does it appear to work but it is such a good thing to aspire to. When you get to the bit about fake alpha males you will see that anger many PUAs have towards women and it makes so much sense we he explains it.

[–]Thin_Diesel -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey guys! When I click on Download, it seems that the page cannot be found.

Can someone re-up this for me?

I used to be into this stuff a few years ago and it made a great difference. But it seems that I need a refresher course, really.

Thanks in advance!

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