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"Far from being more faithful than men, [women] may actually be more naturally promiscuous"

abandonliberty
July 8, 2013
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Title "Far from being more faithful than men, [women] may actually be more naturally promiscuous"
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abandonliberty
Upvotes 21
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Date July 8, 2013 7:44 PM UTC
(13 years ago)
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"Far from being more faithful than men, [women] may actually be more naturally promiscuous"

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July 8, 2013
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[–]chiffonade- 12 points13 points14 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

the myth that women are more commitment-oriented than men is just that, a myth.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 7 points8 points9 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Divorce statistics prove that by a long shot.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp 16 points17 points18 points 13 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

Women only have a fleeting sense of loyalty: hypergamous loyalty.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 13 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Men with options are not exactly loyal either. The difference is just that 80% of women sleep with 20% of men, so there's a smaller group of men who has a chance to be promiscuous.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp 14 points15 points16 points 13 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Even a man with options isn't driven by hypergamy. He just realizes that he, too, can spin plates.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

A man who can get laid without commitment will do so, just like a woman who can get a higher status man will do so.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Thus, having options makes a man pretty much equal in opportunity to the typical woman.

Not yielding commitment is the default that is conditioned out of men - it is our primary power. It is on the woman to give cause for a man to commit to her; not something he should dole out because women want it.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I hear men complain about how bad it is to be a man nowadays, but I actually think sexual freedom gave us a huge advantage, because we can get laid without commitment. Male game is to get a girl to sleep with him, female game is to make him stay. Already when girls reach their early twenties, a lot them have already been pumped and dumped several times and been forced to tag along in one non-exclusive relationship after another.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp 12 points13 points14 points 13 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

If you want to procreate and have a stable family, it's bad to be a man.

If you want non-commital sex, it's great, so long as you have determination to improve yourself and are reasonably attractive.

Most men are conditioned against having options and are told to value monogamy, when in reality it works against them. The typical guy has been force fed a lot of bullshit growing up, and few are going to work at changing their beliefs, because it's not instantly gratifying and can be quite painful in the beginning.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm lucky I had a red pill upbringing. My father made it to the upper middle class from a working class background, but he always kept that working class masculinity and he had a natural intuition about women.

Most boys are told, "listen to your mother," but I was told, "don't listen to your mother." The mother is supposed to be the nurturing parent, not the socializing parent who teaches the sons about masculine values.

[–]luxury_banana 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you are a hedonist and you won the genetic lottery then things are great. It's not gonna last, though.

[+][deleted] -11 points-10 points-9 points 13 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

There is a social stigma against promiscuous women, but there isn't really one for promiscuous men. Promiscuous men typically do not have to lie or break promises to be promiscuous. Is it disloyal if women know that these men won't stick around? Women, on the other hand, have an incentive to hide their promiscuity to avoid the social stigma. Not saying that men would be any better if the roles were reversed. Perverse incentives lead to perverse actions.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp 14 points15 points16 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men do not face this stigma because women reward it. Women desire men desired by other women; pre-selection is exceedingly powerful.

The roles won't be reversed because the genders have different selection criteria. Experience and partner count are negative factors for women under selection by men for LTR/marriage because they signal a lower chance of pair bonding, higher infidelity rate, and increased risk of raising someone else's children.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

In what fucking world do you live in where there is no social stigma against promiscuous men?

Most men (especially hardcore undersexed beta males), fucking hate guys that have lots of sex with lots of women. They hate them with such a fucking passion it isnt even funny. And with hate, comes huge social stigma, psychological warfare, and them attempting to undermine you in any way they possibly can. If I had a nickle for every roommate who fucking hated me simply because of my sex life, I'd have like 5 dollars.

This fear/hate/loathing spills over into all areas of life as well. Workplace problems (why I dont shit where I eat), getting hired for new jobs (yes, if your vibe screams lothario, beta males will not hire you), they will try to use this against you by smearing your reputation in front of women (I can't count how many asstards I've met that used this tactic in field), and the women will use it against you if you don't commit to them and they feel scorned.

Beta males are the worst perpetrators of this shit though. Japanese beta males have pretty much dedicated themselves to running a smear campaign against foreigners in attempts to brainwashing their women into not dating us, and it works to some degree.

[–][deleted] 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What you are describing is envy, not stigma. I am fairly successful in my career and I have a lot of money, and some people envy and hate me for it. But nobody would say that the U.S. has a stigma against career success.

The big difference is that people want to be like you. They want to have your reputation. James Bond is a womanizer and he is viewed as a hero. When is the last time you've seen a lead female character that is a slut that fucked 50 guys?

Japan is probably one of the most xenophobic places in the world and the Japanese people have a lot of racial pride. In that sense, there is a stigma against foreigners in Japan.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Being hated for your sexual choices, whether that hate stems from jealousy or not, doesn't change the fact that it's a stigma:

Social stigma is the extreme disapproval of (or discontent with) a person or group on socially characteristic grounds that are perceived, and serve to distinguish them, from other members of a society. Stigma may then be affixed to such a person, by the greater society, who differs from their cultural norms.

[–][deleted] 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]enticingasthatmaybe 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Walking around the mall

Wear tight clothes and walk around the mall one day. You'll notice that every woman that looks at you for more than a second will, and with out fail, look down towards your crotch.

Women are the lustful sex - and you're right; their projections of how men must feel about them comes solely from their own lust filled perceptions.

[–]BorMato 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

With this article in mind, other than having kids, how would one go about keeping their wife monogamous? Is it possible? I'm new here and have a SO who doesn't want to have kids, but has never been with a man other than me. I don't want to see her cheat on me but all the stuff I read on this sub makes me feel like she is going to at some point.

[–]betaprime 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's easier to wear a vest than to dodge a bullet.

[–]TruKiller 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Be constantly alpha, make is so there is no other guy worth cheating with.

[–]anakinastronaut -2 points-1 points0 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why have an so w/o kids?f

[–]theitalianstallion76 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

no shit hahaha

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Typical bullshit Guardian article promoting their own agenda.

[–]luxury_banana 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The salient truth in it is that women are not held responsible for their actions in today's legal and cultural climate and so can act like feral animals in terms of their mating habits.

This translates to AFBB as it's commonly called, or what those in the know call dual sexual strategy.

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