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Are there women in western society who are plugged into the matrix with blue pill stuck up their ass in much the same way as there are men who have not swallowed the red pill yet?

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Title Are there women in western society who are plugged into the matrix with blue pill stuck up their ass in much the same way as there are men who have not swallowed the red pill yet?
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Date May 1, 2014 10:27 AM UTC
(12 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/24g1rb/are_there_women_in_western_society_who_are/
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[–]the_fluffy_one_DAE hate pillz5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How is this a debate post? You state things which this sub exists to debate and take one side of it implicitly in your post. Provide conclusive proof for hypergamy (and prove that men are immune to it), what do you mean by the 'female prerogative' and prove that they are in a privileged place in western society. When you do that, I will enter a debate with you with the assumptions you make in the first line of the post.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Man, there's always that group of terpers who talk like they had testicular torsion ever since their balls dropped.

TRP often quotes 80-99% have not swallowed the redpill.

99% of what? Dolphins? They're probably right. They'd probably be right about humans too.

But no one swallows quite like TRP! You guys really know how to swallow things hook, line, and sinker.

What percentage of women does red pill think are plugged into the matrix?

Aw man, how could you get that information!? I can't help because I'm not a terpinator. If only there was a sub full of swallowing terpers that you could ask! But where?!!

Or do you think only men are unaware of the red pill while majority women are aware of it?

I can't summon enough care to know.

[–]goatismycopilotPurple Pill Woman2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This might just be my perception but it seems like there has been a steady stream of posts in PP about what is wrong with women, it seems like TRP lite lately.

[–]whatevswhatevs0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think there are a lot of RPers who get more attention over here than they do at TRP, so they're starting to favor this sub instead.

[–]Villaintine╰▄︻▄╯0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This doesn't seem appropriate for debate- you're leading the answer from the premise alone which is also based purely on assumption.

I'll add though, that anyone- man, woman, or whatever delusional spirit-animal-hybrid fantasy you identify with/as who thinks they are entitled to anything in a society outside of what is accepted by law is "plugged into the matrix with the blue pill stuck up their ass," as you so succinctly put it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm pretty sure most TRP and related stuff I've read thinks that modern/Western women aren't consciously aware of "their hypergamy."

[–]CFRProflcopter( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This post has been removed. I removed a very similar post by a blue piller the other day and it would feel weird not to remove this one. The way the post is worded, it feels like it's more suited for /r/theredpill. The way the title is worded is obviously not acceptable ("blue pill stuck up their ass").

You can submit a new post with a more neutral title and a post that feels more suited to purple pill debate.

[–]alcockell-1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'd say the difference between TRP and TBP is that TRP/RPW are conscuiously aware of hypergamy etc... and therefore work to manage it... rather than let it run rampant.

[–]MissPearlEditor of frequent typos.1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I always wondered about the whole concept of managing hypergamy. I mean, most women still aren't in poly scenarios, just a small number of religious weirdos and sexual libertines- and it tends to be packaged in a self defeating way when it comes to promiscuity- if you hold out only for someone you are really, really attracted to and reject anyone else, you are a hypergamous bitch, but if you have comparatively easy going standards you are a slut that doesn't deserve respect.

I feel like there really isn't much unplugging going on- if you continue the matrix metaphor it's more that you have a group of people furiously angry the robot overlords didn't make them someone important within the computer simulation.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Women naturally ARE red pill, all women. They all respond to an alpha male in the same way, they all have hypergamy, etc. Some just choose to acknowledge it and others don't.

[–]the_fluffy_one_DAE hate pillz2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

By all, do you mean every single woman on this planet?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Pretty much all women have hypergamy. Of course there are exceptions to everything, even statements like "humans have two eyes." In general, the statement holds true however.

[–]the_fluffy_one_DAE hate pillz1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Do you feel that men are hypergamous?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not to the same degree that women are. Female hypergamy came about as a survival strategy.

[–]the_fluffy_one_DAE hate pillz1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you have any non-anecdotal evidence for hypergamy and the differences between men and women?

[–]MissPearlEditor of frequent typos.0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Could you precisely define the ranking system under which these things are sorted? Is this related to 'marrying' up relative to me, or to the pool of men? It seems like there are so many sorting systems, including a lack of universal alphas, so this presents a problem in developing a testable hypothesis.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Women have been designed by evolution to pursue men that are the most fit, have the highest status, and the most resources for obvious reasons. This is just part of natural selection and it's also why humanity as it is today has way more female ancestors than male ancestors. Most men weren't deemed alpha enough to pass on their genes. This behavior is shared by all women across cultures, races, and nationalities.

[–]MissPearlEditor of frequent typos.1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

most fit

Fit how? Evolutionary fitness has to do with being fitted to the environment, not fit as in cross fit, and that can mean pretty much literally anything, including things that are maladaptive to other environments.

That being said, mate selection has, historically, not always been up to women- for example polygyny tends to be brokered between the husbands and fathers who get the option to have multiple partners, and sustained by the deliberate exclusion of some males, including trends like the FLDS's habit of ejecting teenage boys from the society if the poor kids look like they won't play nice, to keep the sex ratios in favour of the more powerful men- so it's possibly risky to imply that human mate selection has been a passive, peaceful process and not heavily influenced by things like the comparative rate of inter-male violence and social politics.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Fit how?

Given assumptions that evolutionary psychology makes about the environment/male-female dynamics, and some human-specific reproductive constraints:

  1. Strength and other determinants of ability to provide for and protect women and children

  2. Competitiveness to perform learned male tasks (it's crucial to note that no tasks need be inherently male for concept of masculine gender roles to be meaningful). As an animal with social hierarchies, much of "alphaness" is based on social proof, which may be considered a kind of "legitimacy" to the genetic throne. This may explain part of the apparent circularity in the definition of "alpha".

Veering off topic, this suggests essentially that menstruation evolved to filter out the less fit embryos in species with invasive hemochorial placentas.

[–]MissPearlEditor of frequent typos.0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, I already read the placenta article, but thanks, that is a good one. :)

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