Was googling "MGTOW Levels", and found this old chart right on this sub, has this chart been updated since then?

MisanthropeArtichoke · 2020-01-25T12:24:52+00:00

Stop with the gotdamned levels! Whoever made that stupid chart needs to be shot, then resuscitated, then shot again.

bamabeatsny · 2020-01-25T12:42:06+00:00

To a man going his own way, levels don't matter. They don't matter to them personally, nor in how another MGTOW chooses to "see" their own level. Whatever the hell that is.

BroscienceGuy · 2020-01-25T11:54:38+00:00

This looks like mental masturbation

deadBeefCafe2014 · 2020-01-25T12:42:22+00:00

Better than that old level 1-4 chart that was around a bunch of years ago.

If I had to pick a label from this chart, I’d be a Civil MGTOW.

DerdyG · 2020-01-25T13:37:18+00:00

The levels don't really matter, so long as you are not married and not in a position to be fucked by the system, you are good. consider paying as little tax as possible your contribution in hastening the collapse of the system that steals from men and gives to women.

MisterInspector · 2020-01-25T12:53:18+00:00

Aware MGTOW-Social MGTOW

thatMGTOWguy · 2020-01-25T14:00:49+00:00

This is bullshit. You don’t have to become a nomad and renounce modern life. You were born in this world, just live your life, make money, do things you like, have some fun, avoid lifelong commitments and then die in peace.

MillerLiteBulb77 · 2020-01-25T14:02:40+00:00

the typo/misspelled words kill it for me and indicate it was created by an angry amateur.

it’s also pointless to start making distinct levels when life is more like a gradient.

do your own thing, man.

TheAdmiralYiSunShin · 2020-01-25T16:18:17+00:00

I keep seeing this chart and I'll keep saying it. Its not good or accurate.

Being entirely in exile is not the top level of MGTOW. It is merely the top level of paranoia resulting in the top-level of societal rejection. Top-level MGTOW literally start to own the world becoming an entire generation of Bezos's without any wives being part of their empires. Through money, they can change any law, or even found any new nation they want with the kinds of law systems they want. If I have to create a fucking MGTOW nation where the laws are actually fair through becoming a trillionaire, then I'll fucking do it. I'm sick of us having nowhere to call our home where we can legally be at fucking peace vs female bullshit.

Even the level below that is erroneous in its description. I probably fit most into "Ghost MGTOW" when it comes to my attitude and actions towards females; however I definitely do not follow the next part. Once again, "refusing to produce more than strictly necessary for his own individual survival", isn't anything but a high level of paranoia to the current social situation and the reaction of near-total rejection.

A real near-the-top MGTOW would find a way to achieve very lofty and financially difficult goals, but that change the entire world to better fit his vision for it; and ALL without any need for women or relationships in the mix. Being a financial recluse doesn't make you near the top of this hierarchy of men; the complete polar opposite is the indisputable case. Avoiding unnecessary taxes can be done through tax havens and you'll end up on the upper end of the financial ladder as opposed to the lowest end of it to literally make all your manly dreams come true without some stupid bitch tying you down like a 10-ton anchor.

ozan_t · 2020-01-25T22:34:42+00:00

This is how cults start, there should not be 'levels', it creates hierarchy and superiority complexes

Car_Racer · 2020-01-25T14:10:08+00:00

Someone with some MGTOW knowledge made this chart, probably before most of us even joined MGTOW. They knew enough about MGTOW and categorized the groups. I’m actually a fan of the levels and I think many men go through the levels on their journey or just stay at one level.

Car_Racer · 2020-01-25T14:17:07+00:00

Thanks for posting. This chart is what got me hooked on MGTOW in the first place. It summarized how I was feeling and where I wanted to go. If you don’t like the levels then don’t look at it or scratch out the numbers. The information is still good.

DangZagnut · 2020-01-25T14:28:46+00:00

This is showing archaic ideas of how MGTOW has evolved over time.

Someone who came of age in the 1990s made this chart, which, at best, was a product of its time. There’s no “levels” although the news “narrative” loves to quote from it.

jkarovskaya · 2020-01-25T14:37:44+00:00

Humans generally are more complex than these levels, so not really accurate in all respects

I'm definitely in the ghost category, except I'm not living off the books

Investments by nature have to be on the record.

WanderlustYouth · 2020-01-25T14:47:35+00:00

While I don't really care for the level system (as long as you are not married or in a LTR then you are as MGTOW as can be), I would one day like to become what they note as an "Exile MGTOW", dealing with society has become so tiring and at most only speak a few sentences a day anyway...

BobScratchit · 2020-01-25T18:12:51+00:00

I’m a 27th degree MGTOW accordingly me.

SeekingLevelFive · 2020-01-25T12:17:07+00:00

Hmmm.

__2st__ · 2020-01-25T14:32:45+00:00

Yes please.all we Need Is some stupid label-based hieraechy so we can borrow an identity rather than develop our OWN. Leave lists and labels to little girls.

Chaos_LightDark · 2020-01-25T11:47:32+00:00

I'm a level 3 Civil MGTOW by the way.

Is it true you unlock Assassin's Creed powers if you get to level 5?

Title	Was googling "MGTOW Levels", and found this old chart right on this sub, has this chart been updated since then?
Author	Chaos_LightDark
Upvotes	10
Comments	27
Date	January 25, 2020 11:45 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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