One thing that never really sat right with me was this concept of "we're both equal." (In terms of relationship control) You see this with blue pill couples, most of them dual income, both successful in their own right.

More power to them, always great to see women earning money. Never understood the issue with RP guys hating on women who make good money. Extra money for vacations, great educations for your kids, a nice place to live. etc. So long as worklife balance is in tact. Forget a woman working 80 hours a week (same as a man really, be there for you family!)

But one thing I've come to the conclusion on, is the greatest scam ever perpetrated by feminists and blue pill cucks is "we're equal." If you're willing to admit that, or let her say that and accept it, she is in control. Next time you hear it, look at who is saying it and do some armchair analysis on who wears the pants.

It is assumed that you are physically more dominant than her, and if you're willing to handwave that notion, then you are accepting terms and conditions that she has designed to obscure the fact that she is in fact in control. Are you really "equal" in the relationship? Why? Because you're too much of a coward to dominate her? She's already dominating you by making you emasculate yourself by obscuring the fact that you should be running the relationship and having you accept that notion. By obscuring the fact that you could get her to do ANYTHING physically, you should be both mentally and physically stronger than her.

The moment you say "we're equal" you admit defeat.

As a corollary, if she is unwilling to admit that you are the designated leader of the relationship, then your relationship is over.

If she is unwilling to cede control, you have no hope a long lasting stable family life. She is unfit to be your wife and does not deserve your companionship or the effort a father puts into their children andor you are unfit to be her husband.

Your wife must accept you as a man, and herself as a women. Without this, you are merely serving the roles laid out by capitalist culture, the ultimate cuck. Shiney cars and some kids, pumping money into the system as fast as you can, running the clock until you hate each other.

Him, because his wife fills a fatherly role in the family, her because her husband is a boy, she now his mother.

The relationship, now paternal, strained by the rigors of raising children ends. He goes through the meat grinder because he is a coward and lets it happen, defeated. She hamsters why it all failed.

But she can't totally be blamed. The existing paradigm is pushed hard, blue pill is in. What could go wrong?

This can serve as an update of sorts on the previous thread I made. Results? Success, overwhelming success. We talked about some of the issues we'd been having lately (her lack of respect and submission) and the issue was we were both being shitty blue pill versions of ourselves. Me, low effort domineering, her being overbearing. I told her it was over and that our life together was over unless she accepted her role as a woman, and mine as a man. And that this was the end of the line.

We talked about modern media portrayals of what a relationship is and compared ourselves to other people we knew and asked ourselves questions about what made those relationships work. The answer? Gender roles.

Money helps but was not determinate. Who works or stays home was not determinate. What was though, was a willingness to submit to the captain and first mate role, and for both roles to fulfill those roles. Men being men, women being women.

Don't be afraid to lose a relationship when you know you're right, be confident, be a man. If she loves you and you make this woman cum, she'll follow your lead. In my case, I was making a lot of noise to follow my lead but doing it by very low effort as some posters talked about. They were right. I told her that her end of the game needed to be upped too, so we'll see how that goes. But long story short, a night that started out with "I'm sleeping" ended with fireworks. To be clear there are NO dead bedroom issues here, but I do not tolerate sexual rejection in our house. But again, was handling it really low effort (anger, straight talk argument etc). Instead, this time, amused mastery, take away, discussing the end of this relationship as we know it, bringing her back upstairs and laying it down.

What I was doing was reintroducing the mechanic of fear into the relationship. She has my commitment now, but when you have children and a home things are different. You can't just bring someone home from the bar like someone suggested (who was rightly downvoted into hell). Home life doesn't work that way. But your end goal should be to find a good woman, pass on your DNA, raise a family. Be man god damnit. Last night, was putting this back in perspective. You will be a woman, or else you do not deserve me as a man. A choice between blue pill or red pill. And I was totally alright with her saying "fuck you, you're weak, I'm leaving." Because I was confident enough in my assessment that the issue was a philosophical one, me VS blue pill. Me vs her upbringing. Me vs her doctorate degree. I wasn't worried about me being weak, and she gave me the validation she needed to give me by not firing back anymore. She knew I was right, and it was a real honest to god "shit or get off the pot" moment. No more games. Do you want this man, or do you want a disney fantasy? Which do you prefer?

A new paradigm in my life is that if your partner is unwilling to cede control your relationship is over. Have some god damn respect for yourself guys. She is demoted to PLATE if you have this discussion and she does not comply. Because she doesn't respect you and you're not man enough to overcome the BP fantasy.

The best you can obtain in a relationship if she's not willing to give you outright, overt control is covert control and a tacit admission of failure to be the man. You will fight this till your relationship is over, because there is no "line in the sand." You are actually walking ON the line. It must be overt and outright in my opinion. No other relationship setup can survive marriage and children for 30, 40, 50 years. And if it does, it fantastically mediocre. Dried pussies, limp dicks and weak kids who have two parents that hate each other.

And no other arrangement DESERVES it. Just think to yourself why you would want to be putting all the effort involved in raising children and running a marriage when you're with a 40 or 50 year old woman? That arrangement must be in your favor up front, because you lose it on the tail end. You have to be willing to ask for your "net present value" up front, or you lose. Take a look at a 50 year old woman and ask yourself if you want to give up the prime of your life to be having sex with her. Did she give you the prime of her life?

RULE : "If she is unwilling to admit I am the leader of this relationship (and in the future, household and family) then she is unfit to be my wife andor I am unfit to be her husband."