My issue with vegans and vegetarians

thisisnotreal666 · 2020-01-01T00:16:49+00:00

There is no such thing as vegans. Unbeknownst to themselves they are slowly cannibalizing their own body.

kruggerand · 2019-12-31T23:47:17+00:00

I like the old joke How can you tell if a person is vegan? Answer: Just give them a minute.

DangZagnut · 2019-12-31T23:53:25+00:00

They’re religious nuts with unearned moral authority.

And it is a religion. Veganism has every aspect of a religion.

Moral authority constantly pushed.

If you just are a vegetarian for health reasons that’s your thing. If you’re a moral authoritarian “vegan” it’s about morals and climate change and whatever dumb shit Earth mother by psychos that just need a steak to get their heads right.

MuchIndependence · 2020-01-01T00:07:04+00:00

I'd rather save a plant than a vegan, TBPH

heaphonesnbikes · 2019-12-31T23:44:55+00:00

When they harvest the crops 1000s of small animals like mice and birds get killed in those giant harvesters, so it's definitely not a sanctity of animal lives because one cow would last a person a few months easily, 1 life vs 1000s for a salad.

techstural · 2020-01-01T01:06:56+00:00

Bro, I don't tend to prosletyze about it, except when someone starts it up (e.g. asks me "why?").

My deal is like this. If you had to take a life to survive, you would, but since you don't (i.e. you have a choice*), then why take a life? Why shouldn't everyone get to see another day?

Btw, I can tell you're a little sensitive about it. No "harm" in that! :)

*I like (irony) of this use of "choice" in comparison to the common feminist one, where theirs means choosing death, whereas this one means choosing life.

yofhamitzthehood · 2020-01-01T00:01:27+00:00

If it was illegal to eat meat, who would be taking care of farm animals? Wont they over populate, which will cause predators that are also dangerous to humans to over populate?

GimmeYourJuices · 2020-01-01T14:06:14+00:00

Vegans don't respect your choice because your choice has a victim. Why would you kill and eat animals when you don't have to? A vegan diet is healthy for all humans at all stages of life.

To add, it's okay to kill plants because they are not sentient. They don't feel pain, suffering and have emotions. These are just a few of the many things that makes a being sentient. If you think killing a plant is the same as killing a cow on a moral level then there is probably something wrong with you and most likely your mother dropped you when you were a child.

Bob187378 · 2020-01-01T04:47:26+00:00

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trashretardcunt · 2020-01-01T08:27:04+00:00

I hope your sister realizes that the only reason she thinks it’s wrong to kill animals for food is because she has a full stomach. Throw her, starving for 2 weeks, in front of a freshly made ham and cheese sandwich, and I promise you she is going to eat it.

Our stomachs can handle eating meat. That doesn’t mean we should eat meat, but it means either God designed us with the ability to do it, or it’s something we naturally have done for millions of years. Either way, everything on earth survives by eating other organisms and stealing their happiness for its own happiness. That’s just the way the world works. The world is not heaven, the world is a terrible place. Animals eat each other. Many of them eat each other while the prey is still alive, having its flesh ripped off its body, blood spraying everywhere, and its organs pulled out.

Everything gets hungry and everything has to eat. I am sorry animals have to suffer and in the very least maybe not make them suffer for no reason, but give them a quick and relatively painless death, for food, and I don’t see the issue. I am sorry the world works this way, but it’s the only way any of us can eat.

trashretardcunt · 2020-01-01T08:30:14+00:00

Vegans aren’t actually solving any problems. They are just lessening the issues. But they aren’t really lessening the issues, they are just lowering the meat being bought. The meat is still being made in the same rates, just it gets thrown into the trash if nobody buys it. They don’t just stop making meat, they just throw expired meat out. Animals are still suffering. Also I think it’s funny a person can not eat meat for 2 weeks and think they are better than you but not realize their body is entirely adapted to eat meat, because their ancestors ate meat for thousands/millions of years.

And either way, if you want to survive you have to take life from something else. Whether that be vegetables or animals. Something still has to die.

Bob187378 · 2020-01-01T15:39:39+00:00

A few things:

Veganism is more of an ethical stance against animal abuse than a dietary choice so it's going to tend to be tied more heavily into someone's personality than the kinds of foods they like to eat. This also makes it feel like more of an attack on people who disagree with the movement so the feeling of "annoyance" is of course going to be more widespread, especially with how many people are both financially and culturally invested in not seeing anything wrong with animal agriculture.

It's not that vegans thing their actions are going to change the world. They just don't want to do something they see as cruel, which is paying people to provide them with the corpses of animals they've killed and almost certainly abused in many other ways. It wouldn't really make sense to say something like, "I'm gonna keep stoning gay people because you would have to convince all of the extremist groups in the middle east to stop homosexuals from being stoned". It's a matter of personal principles.

The reason it's wrong (imo) to kill and abuse animals isn't because they are alive. It's because they are sentient. A plant has no idea it or anything around it exists. It cant feel pain or want things. I don't see a reason to worry about it's well being anymore than I would for a rock, aside from whatever aesthetics or utility it might be providing.

If the chemicals that get sprayed on crops are terrible for the ecosystem then it would be even more so for anyone who eats meat, because you have to feed way more crops to animals to get the same amount of food, not to mention the extra water, land and other resources they take up. Aside from the tiny percentage that is fully grass fed and finished beef, animal products are generally the least resource efficient and most environmentally harmful products you can buy.

Title	My issue with vegans and vegetarians
Author	wheelsturninground
Upvotes	5
Comments	30
Date	December 31, 2019 11:40 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/eiari5/my_issue_with_vegans_and_vegetarians/
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