Demographics vs. MGTOW

gantz_au · 2019-12-27T11:56:43+00:00

Do you think that MGTOW is able to make any impact "on the market" and reverse the damage done by feminism and the leftists?

No.

The reason for this is because there will always be an overwhelming number of thirsty men out there who will do anything, even putting themselves into slavery and servitude, for a woman's brief bit of attention.

That's just the way it is.

Freezemeister7895 · 2019-12-27T12:16:01+00:00

MGTOW is not about making any impact on society, its about making an impact on yourself and your life.

The way you describe it, it sounds you see MGTOW as some sort of cure for society and gender relations - but it isnt. Maybe in a small sense as in "be the change you would like to see in the world", but thats about it.

It is very much focused on yourself, self improvement etc. The side effects may include being considered more desirable by women, but thats not the goal, thats probably more in the PUA territory.

We (mostly, can only speak for myself) dont plan on having an impact on anybody but ourselves, we plan on being content, dont care about whamen and societies problems by and large, and keep watching from the sideline mostly.

Even if we had the perfect solution, do you think society would value the opinion of a group they perceive as misogynistic incel racistst? I dont think so.

I personally use this sub as a constant reminder, biological urges can be an utter bitch. It doesnt hurt to keep up a steady intake of red pills.

Sr_Nunes · 2019-12-27T11:50:05+00:00

I'm MOW. I don't care.

NathanHollister · 2019-12-27T14:28:36+00:00

No. MGTOW can't do anything to fix society and neither can you. We can, however, remove ourselves from the consequences of soicety declining- to a certain extent. Women are the majority of voters, so the system can't be fixed.

American__Jedi · 2019-12-27T17:07:50+00:00

It potentially could in the future. What we need to do now is spread the word. More men than ever before are "seeing the light" even ones that want to get married. Just yesterday I warned a co-worker who is about to get engaged about the dangers. How he could lose the house he's about to buy and half his money and 401k. As much as he wants to get married and have kids he didn't just dismiss me like men used to do. He clearly was listening and it was on his mind. We need to do this as much as possible and not be afraid to speak up. "Don't talk about MGTOW" is the worst quote we have. It didn't even make sense in the over rated movie it's from(if they didn't talk about fight club , where did new recruits come from?) Talk about it, spread the word, send links to friends. Men matter. Who else will stand up for us but other men?

Islamrightaboutfems · 2019-12-27T12:43:51+00:00

Nope, today's events are usually linked to changes made two to three generations before. All the cultural change, laws, etc. are a direct product of past changes, things are only getting worse, more misandry, ever increasing ginocentric society, welfare, debt and then the fall of western empire.

GrisBosque · 2019-12-27T15:02:58+00:00

Our biggest effect on the market will be our wisdom's effect on cultures at large. This will get more and more guys cutting off funding bitches, more guys using minimalism and being selective about purchases, and more guys reducing their bachelor tax footprint thru said minimalism.

And we can surely count on two things: Feminists and governments will do the most stupid things possible, and their increasing insanity will fuel an awakening via blowback.

So we are the tip of the spear of consciousness as to the true nature of current reality, and the leaders into the next one.

There will come a day women will have to do and pay their fair share.

The alternative is total collapse.

unstoppableHavoc · 2019-12-27T12:56:01+00:00

53% ?

It's not even that high in America yet. Almost though.

What country are you in?

But to answer your question, no. There's no going back.

unstoppableHavoc · 2019-12-27T13:31:23+00:00

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Tonyb33 · 2019-12-27T14:24:29+00:00

It’s even worse than that because all of the women will be chasing only 20% of the men.

MyFatThumb · 2019-12-27T15:10:54+00:00

I assume you are European.

There are 5% more men born than women in all countries. If there are no wars with male attrition, the males outnumber the women until around 55 years old and after 65, there is one man for every 2 women. Your country is no different.

Men of all ages want women at their prime 18/25, say that 18-45 year-old men chase 18/25 women and there are already 5% more men that is very uneven, naturally half those women are below average. This huge demand is reflected in all countries not just yours.

USA has the highest obesity rates and Japan the lowest. In developed countries obesity affects men and women at the same rates. I think that 50% overweight with 25% obese is more likely for your country. Those 25% obese women fall into the "below average" group I mentioned above.

No one wants a relationship with an obese person but women are more open to a relationship with an overweight man than vice versa.

This doesn't answer your question but it may put a bit more context to what you are asking.

BlackPillPusher · 2019-12-28T07:48:06+00:00

MGTOW can and will impact society just like herbivore men in Japan do, all you need is around 10% of society to be unmarried men without children and social security along with many other government programs will go bankrupt within a generation, we've been growing exponentially for over 7 years now, this subreddit tripled it's number of subscribers in the past year and it's not even close to the number of "wild" MGTOW out there who are living the lifestyle but never heard of the label.

unstoppableHavoc · 2019-12-27T12:31:02+00:00

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myggtow · 2019-12-27T19:09:20+00:00

the damage being done is by overall societal shifts rather than feminism and the generic left. Maybe you could argue that 3rd wave feminists are indeed doing damage though.

How that impacts weight? I am not too sure. I'd need to see some charts stratified by political standing

Ocjab · 2019-12-28T02:17:20+00:00

Why care about that? I don't give a shit about women. We are mgtow, we don't care if women even exist. Mgtow is about going your own way, leaving society and women behind. If you don't know that, than you need to brush up on mgtow. We are not here to change anything, we are here to only change ourselves.

We aren't hero's nor villains. If that is what you are looking for, then move to the Men Rights Activists.

Title	Demographics vs. MGTOW
Author	unstoppableHavoc
Upvotes	10
Comments	28
Date	December 27, 2019 11:47 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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